Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

CannaBare

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Well my coco recipe turned out to be

1 part coco mix (2 parts coco to 1 part rice hulls)
1 part EWC
1 part Rabbit Poo

as my base amended with

1/2 cup Kelp
1/4 heaping cup each of Neem and Karanja
1/2 cup Crab shell
a teeny bit of alfalfa
5 cups together of Basalt, Glacial, diatomaceous earth, and greensand dusts
and 1/2 cup of Gypsum dust

It holds less water than my peat mix but I think after a month or two after the poo breaks down it will be perfect. I am also going to try a 4 part coco base if the water retention does not eventually increase. Seems solid though :)

Canna
 

Pattahabi

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So I went to the fair with the fam yesterday and found a greenhouse with free seeds, I was stoked, thought it was cool they were pushing outdoor gardens how they were. Do a "scavenger hunt" in their garden and pick a pack of seeds. Cool beans! I knew Basil was an IPM plant (thanks fly) and I wanted some of the plants for next year.

My question are any of these others good for the garden, whether it be for teas (like Cilantro) or using it as foliars like Aloe or working it as green matter in the soil.

Sage
Cilantro
Basil
Oregano

Then I got lettuce, tomatoes, and jalapeños.

Lady's telling me not to waste em all (the basil) so we can make salsa and shit but of course im all about integrating what I can into the garden(s)! (indoor and out)
Cilantro is one of my favorites.
 

SpaaaceCowboy

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Hey guys...Does organic soil drain better than a medium with nutes ?

I was using pro-mix with Jack's Classic, and it sometimes took a while to drain...I just got going with a little organic mix I whipped up, and it seems like the water runs right through it....It's nice not having to wait a long time for the water to drain through the pot.
 

SpaaaceCowboy

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And yes. I can almost guarantee if you made your own soil using any recipe in the organics section that it would drain better than a pre-purchased soil, simply because of the increased ratio of ingredients that improve aeration.
essentially the soil was the same as my old mix...My old mix was Pro-mix HP, wc, lime, and perlite....The new soil I just added Epsoma Garden Tone...Like I said I have not used the Jack's, and the soil drains beautifully now.
 

x713

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i need to build my own soil again last time i did i messed up bad and used bad mushroom compost the soil grows green/yellow mushrooms.my yard is so full of ants i hate it im afraid of leaving soil out because it will turn into a huge ant pile .i get enough of them in my compost pile.i did a no no and bought some ffof to last time ill get my money worth because it will be recycled and made better
 

SpaaaceCowboy

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Ok guys...Well I've researched and researched so much that my gf thinks I'm nutzzz for spending so much time on the weed forums, lmao....

Anyways, this is what I've come up with for a soil...Unsure of how much for each amendment though.

From what I gather diversity among your ingredients is a good thing....So this is what I got...

Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss
Combo of WC and some kind of compost TBD
Perlite (I already have it)
Combo of Dolomite Lime and Oyster Shell
Alfalfa Meal
Neem Meal
Kelp Meal
Crab Meal
Epsoma Tomato Tone
Rock Dust
BioAG Ful-Humix

Was unsure about if I should add Gypsum or not ?
As well as Mychorrizae ?

Thoughts on this mix ? Of course I would let it cook for like 2 or 3 months...I am assuming that would be long enough ?
 

cannakis

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This is my first attempt at a Los. following a recipe from the beginning of this thread. I only gave her coconut water and molasses. This was the easiest grow I've ever done and I'm pretty happy with the results! Ill be chopping within the next week and can't wait to see how she smokes!

Thanks for the help everyone!

Happy growing.
holy shit! are you serious thats all you used to feed them?
 

foreverflyhi

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Ok guys...Well I've researched and researched so much that my gf thinks I'm nutzzz for spending so much time on the weed forums, lmao....

Anyways, this is what I've come up with for a soil...Unsure of how much for each amendment though.

From what I gather diversity among your ingredients is a good thing....So this is what I got...

Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss
Combo of WC and some kind of compost TBD
Perlite (I already have it)
Combo of Dolomite Lime and Oyster Shell
Alfalfa Meal
Neem Meal
Kelp Meal
Crab Meal
Epsoma Tomato Tone
Rock Dust
BioAG Ful-Humix

Was unsure about if I should add Gypsum or not ?
As well as Mychorrizae ?

Thoughts on this mix ? Of course I would let it cook for like 2 or 3 months...I am assuming that would be long enough ?
Yea get gypsum dust, and add mycho during transplant
 

st0wandgrow

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Ok guys...Well I've researched and researched so much that my gf thinks I'm nutzzz for spending so much time on the weed forums, lmao....

Anyways, this is what I've come up with for a soil...Unsure of how much for each amendment though.

From what I gather diversity among your ingredients is a good thing....So this is what I got...

Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss
Combo of WC and some kind of compost TBD
Perlite (I already have it)
Combo of Dolomite Lime and Oyster Shell
Alfalfa Meal
Neem Meal
Kelp Meal
Crab Meal
Epsoma Tomato Tone
Rock Dust
BioAG Ful-Humix

Was unsure about if I should add Gypsum or not ?
As well as Mychorrizae ?

Thoughts on this mix ? Of course I would let it cook for like 2 or 3 months...I am assuming that would be long enough ?

That's a good lookin list of ingredients right there. A safe bet for how much to use is apx 2 cups per cf of your meals (which includes the tomato tone) and 3-4 cups per cf for the mineral mix (rock dusts, oyster shell flour, dolo lime, etc). If you're amending say 4 cf of base, I would use 12 cups of rock dusts, 3 cups of oyster shell flour, and 1 cup of dolo lime. Then add 1.5 cups of kelp meal, alfalfa meal, crab shell meal, neem meal, and tomato tone. Wet that down with a compost tea and let 'er sit for a few weeks
 

hyroot

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I was at the hydro shop and they had a bunch of different brands of "organic" pesticides / fungicides. All they are is enzymes (supposedly). I never take their advice. One guy there swears by using enzymes as a pesticide regardless of brand. Anyway any thoughts to using seed sprout teas and / or coconut water for ipm's?
 

Pattahabi

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^^^^ For sure SST's are going to contain chitinase. Now how much is needed to actually do something to the shell of a bug is another story. I also wonder what high dosages would do to the beneficial population? Would using SST water with spinosad really kick the crap out of bugs? Seems like layering small doses of things like this is the best way to keep the plant happy, and keep the pests away.

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