Rape culture

UncleBuck

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I'm not posting about Obama's allie the pope. Let's compare the two in a minute.
I was making reference to Obama's other allie. The Afghan military commanders.
i was talking about the pedophilia and objectification of women so rampant in the religious right. witness the mormons as well.
 

pnwmystery

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I'm not posting about Obama's allie the pope. Let's compare the two in a minute.
I was making reference to Obama's other allie. The Afghan military commanders.
Right they're only Obama's allies. :roll: Because Obama put us into Afghanistan and propped them up, right? This has been Obama's plan ever since 2001 when he became President. :roll:
 

Not GOP

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i was talking about the pedophilia and objectification of women so rampant in the religious right. witness the mormons as well.
How desperate are you? Now your attacking Harry Reid and his Mormon faith?
Don't you know he was attacked by a stretchy band and is half blind right now?
Why is everything about Jesus with you?
 

Not GOP

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Right they're only Obama's allies. :roll: Because Obama put us into Afghanistan and propped them up, right? This has been Obama's plan ever since 2001 when he became President. :roll:
Obama's game plan for the past seven years now. Time to stop grading on a learning curve, and start accepting some responsibility. He put somebody in charge of the Air Force that has never even flown a piper cub on a training exercise. This is what you get with a skilled rhetorictician community agitator in the White House
 

pnwmystery

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Obama's game plan for the past seven years now. Time to stop grading on a learning curve, and start accepting some responsibility. He put somebody in charge of the Air Force that has never even flown a piper cub on a training exercise. This is what you get with a skilled rhetorictician community agitator in the White House
If you're talking about Ms. Deborah James the current Secretary of the Air Force 1) It's a civilian position because our military is controlled by civilians for a very good reason, and 2) She served as Assistant Secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs during the Clinton Administration meaning she was the Secretary of Defense’s senior advisor on all matters pertaining to 1.8 million National Guard and Reserve personnel worldwide meaning she has experience running a department in the Department of Defense which is what the Secretary of the Air Force is suppose to do. Duh, no brainer.

If you're talking about the Chief of Staff of the United States Air Force, General Mark Anthony Welsh III, he has a very long career record and is indeed trained to fly a few aircraft.

Then again, what the fuck does the USAF have to do with the fact that the Republicans and Bush put us into Afghanistan, kept us there, and put these warlords into power and now Obama has to deal with all that shit?
 

Not GOP

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If you're talking about Ms. Deborah James the current Secretary of the Air Force 1) It's a civilian position because our military is controlled by civilians for a very good reason, and 2) She served as Assistant Secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs during the Clinton Administration meaning she was the Secretary of Defense’s senior advisor on all matters pertaining to 1.8 million National Guard and Reserve personnel worldwide meaning she has experience running a Department in the Department of Defense which is what the Secretary of the Air Force is suppose to do. Duh, no brainer.
Whoopty fucking do dah. I guess we are ready to take on Assad then. We have somebody in charge of the Air Force who knows absolutely nothing about jets, choppers, and airplanes
 

pnwmystery

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Whoopty fucking do dah. I guess we are ready to take on Assad then. We have somebody in charge of the Air Force who knows absolutely nothing about jets, choppers, and airplanes
You really don't get our military, or what the Department of Defense is, do you? That's not her job, her job involves overseeing the USAF as part of the Department of Defense. What you're talking about is the Chief of Staff's job.
 

pnwmystery

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Whoopty fucking do dah. I guess we are ready to take on Assad then. We have somebody in charge of the Air Force who knows absolutely nothing about jets, choppers, and airplanes
Deborah Lee James is the Secretary of the Air Force, Washington, D.C. She was confirmed as 23rd Secretary of the Air Force on Dec. 13, 2013, and was appointed to the position Dec. 20, 2013. She is responsible for the affairs of the Department of the Air Force, including organizing, training, equipping and providing for the welfare of its more than 664,000 active-duty, Guard, Reserve and civilian Airmen and their families.

source: http://www.af.mil/AboutUs/AirForceSeniorLeaders/SECAF.aspx

But hey, you know what? You're playing right into the rape culture thing by bashing a female Secretary of the Air Force for not being some gung-ho male, blonde hair blue eyed fighter pilot ace which has nothing to do with the job she fills.
 

Not GOP

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Deborah Lee James is the Secretary of the Air Force, Washington, D.C. She was confirmed as 23rd Secretary of the Air Force on Dec. 13, 2013, and was appointed to the position Dec. 20, 2013. She is responsible for the affairs of the Department of the Air Force, including organizing, training, equipping and providing for the welfare of its more than 664,000 active-duty, Guard, Reserve and civilian Airmen and their families.

source: http://www.af.mil/AboutUs/AirForceSeniorLeaders/SECAF.aspx

But hey, you know what? You're playing right into the rape culture thing by bashing a female Secretary of the Air Force for not being some gung-ho male, blonde hair blue eyed fighter pilot ace which has nothing to do with the job she fills.
Now you're going to turn this into a gender issue? Do you run the local Hillary campaign?
You still haven't shown me how she is capable of flying a single engine Cessna
 

pnwmystery

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Now you're going to turn this into a gender issue? Do you run the local Hillary campaign?
You still haven't shown me how she is capable of flying a single engine Cessna
Because it doesn't matter whether or not she can fly a plane. That's not part of her job. This is the third time I've said this.

Does the CEO of Nestle need to know how to make water and make chocolate? Or should he know how to operate a business?
 

Not GOP

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The commander of our Air Force can organize strategic military air strikes,
but can't get the wheels off the ground on a piper cub training exercise.
Is that the point you're making?
 

UncleBuck

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The commander of our Air Force can organize strategic military air strikes,
but can't get the wheels off the ground on a piper cub training exercise.
Is that the point you're making?
you can't cook a poptart, much less fly a plane, and you think you know what's best for the air force?
 

pnwmystery

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The commander of our Air Force can organize strategic military air strikes,
but can't get the wheels off the ground on a piper cub training exercise.
Is that the point you're making?
This is all the proof I need that you have no fucking clue what the Secretary of the Air Force does even though I pointed it out for you.

SecAF is the Head of the Department of the Air Force, part of the Department of Defense. SecAF is a civilian held position appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate. SecAF reports to Secretary of Defense and/or the Deputy Secretary of Defense. SecAF is responsible for and has the authority to conduct all the affairs of the Department of the Air Force. The SecAF is analogous to a CEO of corporation. The first SecAF Stuart Symington was not a pilot either.

So let's review. The SecAF is 1) a civilian position 2) deals with the Department of the Air Force 3) is the CEO of the Air Force.

The Secretary of the Navy doesn't necessarily need a captains license either, for example Theodore Roosevelt was Assistant Secretary of the Navy but was he ever in the Navy? No.

Here's the law that points out the Secretary of the Air Force

(a)
(1) There is a Secretary of the Air Force, appointed from civilian life by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate. The Secretary is the head of the Department of the Air Force.
(2) A person may not be appointed as Secretary of the Air Force within five years after relief from active duty as a commissioned officer of a regular component of an armed force.
(b) Subject to the authority, direction, and control of the Secretary of Defense and subject to the provisions of chapter 6 of this title, the Secretary of the Air Force is responsible for, and has the authority necessary to conduct, all affairs of the Department of the Air Force, including the following functions:
(1) Recruiting.
(2) Organizing.
(3) Supplying.
(4) Equipping (including research and development).
(5) Training.
(6) Servicing.
(7) Mobilizing.
(8 ) Demobilizing.
(9) Administering (including the morale and welfare of personnel).
(10) Maintaining.
(11) The construction, outfitting, and repair of military equipment.
(12) The construction, maintenance, and repair of buildings, structures, and utilities and the acquisition of real property and interests in real property necessary to carry out the responsibilities specified in this section.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/8013

Whether or not she can fly a plane has nothing to do with her job. Like I said, does the CEO of Nestle need to know how to make chocolate? Did Carly Fiorina as CEO of HP need to know how to assemble a computer? What she does is hire the necessary people to do so, and she oversees the Department of the Air Force. If the USAF was a USAF Inc. she'd be the CEO.
 
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Not GOP

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STOP posting her job title. We ALL already know.
Why don't you slow down with the copy and paste turbo,
and start posting the previous job experience she has to be in charge of the Air Force.
Something legit. Don't feed me some Clinton beaurocratic bull crap that doesn't fly.
 

pnwmystery

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STOP posting her job title. We ALL already know.
Why don't you slow down with the copy and paste turbo,
and start posting the previous job experience she has to be in charge of the Air Force.
Something legit. Don't feed me some Clinton beaurocratic bull crap that doesn't fly.
Once again she's in charge of the Department of the Air Force, who's in charge of combat operations is the Unified Combatant Command which reports to the Secretary of Defense.

As far as her resume: Senior Vice President and Director of Homeland Security for Science Applications International Corporation, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer at Business Executives for National Security, Vice President of International Operations and Marketing at United Technologies. She was assistant to the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Legislative Affairs, professional staff member on the House Armed Services Committee, senior advisor to the Military Personnel and Compensation Subcommittee, the NATO Burden Sharing Panel, and the Chairman’s Member Services team.

Oh and that "Clinton bureaucratic bull crap" is called job experience, which you know, may come in handy.
 
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