Produce weed in 43 days
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biffchicken
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Agreed lol.lol @ this thread
skunkushybrid01
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also tell me professor what it is exactly that causes a plant to produce extra trichomes....
I'll answer for you... stress. Stress causes a plant to produce extra trich's. Stress can come in all shapes and sizes, the most obvious being of course not getting pollinated. That's really stressful to a female plant, that's why many will show hermaphroditic traits at the end of the grow. But that's normal stress... we don't need to worry about that because that's what we want. Another type of stress for the plant is poor nutrient availability, not exactly sure why the plant responds in producing extra trich's for a while but it does. ever noticed that? also of course other types of stress including beating the plant around a little, large temperature shifts... uhm, pathogen... and i can't think of any more so saving my personal favourite till last, the drought response. right at the end of a grow, dry the medium and plant right out. best form of extra stress as you don't lose on yield if you do it properly... imo.
So when the plant is producing extra trich's after a dark period... what does this tell you about the dark? Plants do not like the dark at all, in fact they find it stressful. so stressful they will stretch (cell elongation) in search of light and produce extra trich's. I do not believe plants (cannabis) have an ingrained circadium rhythm as is claimed. if they did, they would know the time and know not to stretch when the lights go down. a plant stretching when the lights go down is merely a shade response but with the entire plant. for all the plant knows a large tree has just grown to block out the sunlight completely. darkness means death.
With that in mind... in regards to an extended dark period early in the grow i do not think it is a useful option. Yes of course the dark triggers the flowering hormone, but we don't know enough on how that works to assume that extending the period will make the plant flower any faster. For example a plant needs energy, which can only come from photosynthesis... i realise there are dark responses that happen independently of photosynthesis, but photosynthesis is the catalyst for everything. so a plant builds so much energy to last during the lights off period. during lights off however this costs a plant far more energy as none is being replaced. eventually of course the plant will die... i once tried to grow a plant in the dark by foliar feeding with a sugar solution. the plant died, even after i tried to put it into light after a month or so. probably because of all the glucose, fructose and sucrose blocking the pores of the leaves. I don't think a plant trying to survive the dark would concentrate on budding, but would instead slow down it's growth processes completely to conserve energy until light is restored.
Most cannabis plants only need i think 9 hours of dark to maintain flowering. So why give any more than they need?
I'll answer for you... stress. Stress causes a plant to produce extra trich's. Stress can come in all shapes and sizes, the most obvious being of course not getting pollinated. That's really stressful to a female plant, that's why many will show hermaphroditic traits at the end of the grow. But that's normal stress... we don't need to worry about that because that's what we want. Another type of stress for the plant is poor nutrient availability, not exactly sure why the plant responds in producing extra trich's for a while but it does. ever noticed that? also of course other types of stress including beating the plant around a little, large temperature shifts... uhm, pathogen... and i can't think of any more so saving my personal favourite till last, the drought response. right at the end of a grow, dry the medium and plant right out. best form of extra stress as you don't lose on yield if you do it properly... imo.
So when the plant is producing extra trich's after a dark period... what does this tell you about the dark? Plants do not like the dark at all, in fact they find it stressful. so stressful they will stretch (cell elongation) in search of light and produce extra trich's. I do not believe plants (cannabis) have an ingrained circadium rhythm as is claimed. if they did, they would know the time and know not to stretch when the lights go down. a plant stretching when the lights go down is merely a shade response but with the entire plant. for all the plant knows a large tree has just grown to block out the sunlight completely. darkness means death.
With that in mind... in regards to an extended dark period early in the grow i do not think it is a useful option. Yes of course the dark triggers the flowering hormone, but we don't know enough on how that works to assume that extending the period will make the plant flower any faster. For example a plant needs energy, which can only come from photosynthesis... i realise there are dark responses that happen independently of photosynthesis, but photosynthesis is the catalyst for everything. so a plant builds so much energy to last during the lights off period. during lights off however this costs a plant far more energy as none is being replaced. eventually of course the plant will die... i once tried to grow a plant in the dark by foliar feeding with a sugar solution. the plant died, even after i tried to put it into light after a month or so. probably because of all the glucose, fructose and sucrose blocking the pores of the leaves. I don't think a plant trying to survive the dark would concentrate on budding, but would instead slow down it's growth processes completely to conserve energy until light is restored.
Most cannabis plants only need i think 9 hours of dark to maintain flowering. So why give any more than they need?
Sure Shot
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You make way too many assumptions for anybody serious, to take you serious.
To learn something, you must accept inherent ignorance.
skunkushybrid01
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so you actually think theories are pointless? a theory is merely an assumption. And assumptions are rife in scientific circles. Often facts are not really facts at all and this leads to travelling down the wrong road completely.
Is it not an assumption that plants will flower faster with 3 days dark?
You haven't got a clue... but don't tell anyone i said that
Sure Shot
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Your the only one saying 3 days.so you actually think theories are pointless? a theory is merely an assumption. And assumptions are rife in scientific circles. Often facts are not really facts at all and this leads to travelling down the wrong road completely.
Is it not an assumption that plants will flower faster with 3 days dark?
You haven't got a clue... but don't tell anyone i said that
What your referring to is actually half that,....... 36 hours!
I'm not here to argue.
I'm just trying to point out that your previous post was full of assumptions and yet,
you seem to be someone searching for knowledge.
My worry is merely that your trying way too hard to find a magic key.
Added variables are added problems.
K.I.S.S.
he has my vote+1 vote for Professor Marijuana as a mod
skunkushybrid01
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36 hours or 72 hours are still extended dark periods and quite unnecessary.
I'm always searching for knowledge.
12tree
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yeah, pagey no worky
Fisherman Pete
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bahahahahaaa. you are trying to help nobody but your own pocket. i have not had to pay for 1 piece of information i know about growing, people like fdd and unlce ben and subcool seem more than happy to create threads and stickies giving help and advice whithout asking for money. you've not given any real evidence, advice, help, photo's etc etc, your site doesn't even work, and yet you are claiming very very desirable results and redusing information to others. good luck sellign your dvd and book LOL. i think you'll find Rosenthal's books sold because he had respect from people.
smallclosetgrowr
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i do believe i payed alot of money for my book from ed rosenthal...... your all a bunch of fucking haters
NLXSK1
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3 days later and your page still wont load....
It would seem that someone who gets paid 10K up front and 250 an hour would be able to afford an ISP that worked.
But that is OK, I produce 20# of medical grade marijuana in 20 days in 3'x3'x3' space and I will tell you how for only $999.95... Yes YOU TOO!! could be a WEED BARON!!!
It would seem that someone who gets paid 10K up front and 250 an hour would be able to afford an ISP that worked.
But that is OK, I produce 20# of medical grade marijuana in 20 days in 3'x3'x3' space and I will tell you how for only $999.95... Yes YOU TOO!! could be a WEED BARON!!!
skunkushybrid01
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That sounds like a good deal to me... where do i sign?
Oh, is there any chance i could actually pay you more for this service?
Fisherman Pete
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and i guess you're fucking gullible and a sucker. you probably own an iphone yeah?
and where did i mention his book was free or even cheap? his book sells because people respect him...
Bigby
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Im genuinely surprised at the confrontational, abrasive, ignorant attitude many members on this forum appear to display. Surely some good old medicinal herbs should raise you up above that sort of petty 'I know more than you' one upmanship bullshit - it certainly has the power to do this in the right sort of open minded people. Cant help thinking that anyone involved with marijuana who displays a stressy, confrontational attitude has some genuine underlying psychological issues, ones that will not actually be helped by marijuana usage - in fact for issues like this I truly believe it can turn these issues into actual behavioural/personality disorders. Of course, by all means, have differing opinions (it is this which fuels human evolution) - but if you present these in a shitty way and then claim incredulity when you draw a shitty response then you are quite frankly a tool who should really take a long hard look at themselves...oh and give up the weed and get some therapy!
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JeffersonBud
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There is nothing new in this post that hasn't been said a million times in this forum or any other forum for that matter. No new knowledge, no new experience, nothing.
It is insulting that one would choose to join a community rich in experience and knowledge such as this one and then state he wants to share nothing of his method except for the exchange of money. I am a humble individual who seeks knowledge from every source available and will gladly help anyone if I can. I know my limitations, but above all, wan't to give back to the community that has given me so much.
If said method produced more and better quality cannabis in a shorter time then its worth knowing and would adopt it or at least try it out. Someone will pirate the dvd anyway and make it available for everyone. There are enough experienced members that choose to share their info with this community for free and to those people, you are awesome!
And the fall equinox lands on sept 23 (my birthday).
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