londonfog
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doing your own research may be able to assist in your retaining the info. Once again Institutional racism.
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londonfog
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or you can Google Institutional racism., so when the conversation of racism is discussed you won't be so....well dumb
reddan1981
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Edmund Morgan’s 1977 work, American Slavery, American Freedom, which argues, in effect, that the establishment of the system of African slavery in Virginia was a conscious decision by wealthy elites, and that racism grew out of slavery. The gist of the argument is that the growing population of landless whites in late 17th-century Virginia became a threat to wealthy landowners, who turned to legal means (increased terms of service for minor legal infractions) to try to keep them subservient. However, most of the landless poor were English, and they came from a cultural tradition in which they could claim the “rights of Englishmen” that guaranteed them certain legal protections (access to courts, trial by jury, property rights, and liberty of their persons). Because of this heritage, wealthy elites realized they couldn’t create a system of perpetual servitude for English subjects, so they settled on imported African slave labor as the solution.
According to Morgan, this strategy “allowed Virginia’s magnates to keep their lands, yet arrested the discontent of the repression of other Englishmen.” Though the white society that emerged would be highly stratified and unequal, the presence of a debased class of enslaved black that inhabited the bottom of the racial hierarchy effectively became a release valve for class antagonisms within the white community. If some whites weren’t as rich as others, they were at least always above the permanent caste of enslaved blacks. And thus the rise of an institutionalized anti-black racism in Virginia and later the United States.
According to Morgan, this strategy “allowed Virginia’s magnates to keep their lands, yet arrested the discontent of the repression of other Englishmen.” Though the white society that emerged would be highly stratified and unequal, the presence of a debased class of enslaved black that inhabited the bottom of the racial hierarchy effectively became a release valve for class antagonisms within the white community. If some whites weren’t as rich as others, they were at least always above the permanent caste of enslaved blacks. And thus the rise of an institutionalized anti-black racism in Virginia and later the United States.
GIJonas
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Wow dude. You are super lucky to have narrowly escaped oppression. I mean everybody knows how being "a quarter Lebanese" really puts the crosshairs on ones head for discrimination.
reddan1981
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Racism is one of many pseudo topics that draw our attention from CLASS PREJUDICE.
WeedFreak78
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This one time i was food shopping when i heard someone yell "Cracker"! I was instantly afraid, and at the same time disgusted that that word is still used..then i realized she was just telling her husband to grab some crackers..i feel your plight.
Now you want me to take their online courses?!
Rob Roy
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Don't some black people have their wages clipped without their permission to fund your lifestyle? Why are you living off the forced confiscation of their labor ? Do you owe them reparations?
londonfog
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you are much too stupid for that.
Rob Roy
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Interesting.
londonfog
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You actually would have a point on that...if it wasn't for the racism.
Tell your folks to stop with the racism and we might get somewhere
Rob Roy
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Your comment would have been good, if it wasn't for the racism.
If reddan 1981 is white and you instructed him to tell "his folks" something, you have implied racism in your request, as if all white people think, act and respond alike.
I suggest you view people as individuals and not from a collectivist perspective. Peace.
desert dude
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Some reading for you, LF:
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/why-we-should-question-the-term-institutional-racism-10119000.html
David Horowicz has quite a lot to say about institutional racism as well, LF. Have you ever read his thoughts on it?
“The doctrine that only whites can be racist is, in fact, itself an instigation to hate crimes. It is a doctrine that has already spread to the secondary schools. The week after the Shepard killing, a Seattle father called a national radio talk show on which I was a guest and told the audience that his son's class in junior high school had been discussing the hate crime concept because of the killing. During the discussion, the teacher informed the class that only heterosexual whites could be racists.”
― David Horowitz, Hating Whitey and Other Progressive Causes
“When I was an undergraduate, the censors attacked the university from without. Now, they are entrenched in the faculties and administrations themselves. Then, the university defined itself as an institution "dedicated to the disinterested pursuit of knowledge." Now, every term of that definition is under siege by postmodernists and deconstructionists who have become the new academic establishment and have redefined the university as "an institution dedicated to social change." That is one reason why the academy, once perceived as a redoubt of intellectual freedom and cutting-edge discourse, has become the butt of snickering jokes about political correctness and the font of Kafkaesque tales about bureaucratic censorship and administrative obtuseness.”
― David Horowitz, Hating Whitey and Other Progressive Causes
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/why-we-should-question-the-term-institutional-racism-10119000.html
David Horowicz has quite a lot to say about institutional racism as well, LF. Have you ever read his thoughts on it?
“The doctrine that only whites can be racist is, in fact, itself an instigation to hate crimes. It is a doctrine that has already spread to the secondary schools. The week after the Shepard killing, a Seattle father called a national radio talk show on which I was a guest and told the audience that his son's class in junior high school had been discussing the hate crime concept because of the killing. During the discussion, the teacher informed the class that only heterosexual whites could be racists.”
― David Horowitz, Hating Whitey and Other Progressive Causes
“When I was an undergraduate, the censors attacked the university from without. Now, they are entrenched in the faculties and administrations themselves. Then, the university defined itself as an institution "dedicated to the disinterested pursuit of knowledge." Now, every term of that definition is under siege by postmodernists and deconstructionists who have become the new academic establishment and have redefined the university as "an institution dedicated to social change." That is one reason why the academy, once perceived as a redoubt of intellectual freedom and cutting-edge discourse, has become the butt of snickering jokes about political correctness and the font of Kafkaesque tales about bureaucratic censorship and administrative obtuseness.”
― David Horowitz, Hating Whitey and Other Progressive Causes
londonfog
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racism was started by whom. Lets see how honest you can be. What group of people started this thing we call racism.
Rob Roy
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I think you meant "which" group.
Some very early racism may be a vestigial leftover from early mans development and a fear of "strangers", people that looked different than your clan or tribe.
Of course I'd say in a modern era, the evidence points to the emergence of the state as the biggest supporter of racism. This will likely go far over your head though, won't it?
I would, again, encourage you to see humans as individuals and judge them on their actions, rather than as automatic members of a group or mindset based on something as superficial as a physical characteristic like color of hair or skin.
londonfog
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hmmmm you seemingly can't answer the question. I wonder why...not
reddan1981
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Who are my folks? If you are implying RICH white policy makers are my folk, I assure you I come from POOR Irish and welsh coal mining stock. If I were to indulge you with further ancestral beginnings I am taught to believe I come from Africa, didn't every one?
3 of my children are mixed race shall I count them as my folk?
Rob Roy
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I did answer the question. I just answered in a way that has befuddled you.
If you are asking what I think of the slavery perpetrated on Africans by white people in the USA in the past, I'd say it was horrible.
I'd also say, I believe I'd have disobeyed the laws then and helped people to escape slavery. I do it now too.
londonfog
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nah just the poor white trash that supports racism. You know the one's who think only black people eat fried chicken and watermelon. The ones who support hatred based on the next mans color. The ones who think they should have the right to refuse service to someone based on skin color.