Popular Bodhi Strains

I have to call bs on all this talk about all of sensi lines being stable ibl's. One of my favorite strains is Jack Herer. It is hardly what I would call stable. Good, but not stable. If it was, wouldn't c99 and amnesia be indistinguishable from Jack? Sensi simply took existing lines and improved them. I don't see how this is any different than what Bodhi is doing.

And as has been already pointed out earlier, most of their genetics came from the US. Do you really believe that northern lights, skunk and haze disappeared from American soil the moment the Dutch got their hands on them? No one in the US grew or worked on these lines after they arrived in Europe? Sensi is responsible for afghani? I always assumed the Afghan people were the ones who spent centuries creating the line.

The Dutch have done great work breeding lines. I don't think anyone here is denying that. I really do not care what country my seeds come from as long as they are good. I avoided growing Bodhi for a long time for reasons similar to what you stated in your original post. I was a bit turned off by the fact that he only seemed to use two males in all of his breeding. But after reading one glowing report after another, I decided to take a chance. I am glad I did. I have not really seen any reports from anyone growing Bodhi that have been negative.

"Oh dear. So much negativity here.... why does everybody hate dutch breeders?"

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TheHermit said:

I have to call bs on all this talk about all of sensi lines being stable ibl's. One of my favorite strains is Jack Herer. It is hardly what I would call stable. Good, but not stable. If it was, wouldn't c99 and amnesia be indistinguishable from Jack? Sensi simply took existing lines and improved them. I don't see how this is any different than what Bodhi is doing.

And as has been already pointed out earlier, most of their genetics came from the US. Do you really believe that northern lights, skunk and haze disappeared from American soil the moment the Dutch got their hands on them? No one in the US grew or worked on these lines after they arrived in Europe? Sensi is responsible for afghani? I always assumed the Afghan people were the ones who spent centuries creating the line.

The Dutch have done great work breeding lines. I don't think anyone here is denying that. I really do not care what country my seeds come from as long as they are good. I avoided growing Bodhi for a long time for reasons similar to what you stated in your original post. I was a bit turned off by the fact that he only seemed to use two males in all of his breeding. But after reading one glowing report after another, I decided to take a chance. I am glad I did. I have not really seen any reports from anyone growing Bodhi that have been negative.

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Last March promo they were giving 2 Jack Herer Sensi. I got 2, and my best friend made 2 orders and got 4. So far he has grown 2 (both female) and I have grown 2 (both female) and all 4 have been different phenos.
While I dont want to take away from the old school breeders, and give them much credit for their contributions to the industry, this has been my experience with most of them. High prices and very unstable seems to be the norm. So much better, more stable strains available, their prices are ridiculous.

"why does everybody hate dutch breeders?"

I think we all know why !

GranolaCornhola said:

"why does everybody hate dutch breeders?"

I think we all know why

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LOL!!

i thought at the begining of the program i thought conan was gona ask christina if the husband was gona teach the baby how to grow???

i dont know anything about dutch people so i thought i would look into dutch i never even thought about that all i ever see is white folks black folks middle eastern folks mexican or south american folks asian folks or navite american like indians like cowboys and indians??? but never dutch ever crossed my mind...

Hilarious how desperate some people choose to be delusional and ignorant.

The reason “netherweed’ (what we made from your grass) is such a popular source for pollen checkers and pocket fillers like bodhi (and greenpoint and many many others) is because those are strains. Strains that have been around for a while, strains that continue to be around for a while. Strains that have been tested and improved rigorously over the years. Unlike all the pollen chucks bodhi and similar produce. They call it limited edition, but the proper phrase would be pollen chuck.

The strains and cuts that initially made it to the Netherland produced no where near the potent bud people pretend to remember. I sold it, I’ve personally added strains to the menu when they just came out. All the variation people in the US praise others for…. shameless posers. There are so many examples, and as hard as ya’ll pretend, it’s really not a secret where many of the popular strains today are based on (sensi, positronics, flying dutchmen, dutch passion, mr nice, etc, etc). Maybe for you kids...

That the Temple example wasn’t enough is not surprising at all. You guys deserve nothing more than mocking as you clearly are as clueless about breeding as your idols.

The result of the incompetence of many popular US breeders is:

- A quickly decreasing genetic pool. The fact other pollen checkers use pollen chucked seeds to breed makes it worse and worse. Something some of you will remember in a few years, and then you will again fall back on the work of real breeders in NL.

- Find a keeper packs. Seems to become standard in the US. You don’t buy strains fools. You buy crosses from someone else’s strains. Worse, crosses based on crosses from someone else’s strains, crossed with bag seed/hermie/hyped-cut.

- Many people waste their time on unfinished products, ‘testing’ for the breeder. Clueless fools. Of course if you pollen chuck something based on parents you haven’t bred/stabilized yourself it needs to be tested. Breeding is all about determining the outcome of the seeds…. lol why even write that down, obviously breeding means something else in the US. There’s a difference in creating seeds and breeding (which is gene mapping).

- Users who now buy bodhi chucks, for example medicinal users getting pain relief, won’t be able to buy the same strain a few years from now, or in 2 decades. Because it never was a strain. Anyone with just the slightest clue of what breeding is gets that.

- By filling the pockets of pollen chuckers you make it less interesting for real breeders.

Unless you use someone else’s gear it take a minimum of 9-11 rounds to create a single hybrid. That hybrid will not be suitable for breeding. Simply is not.

I’m not against anyone using the dutch ibls. On the contrary, it’s in fact what both hobby and commercial breeders should do, and the better ones have done. But do it with some fucking dignity instead of this chinese knock off greedy shit. Use it for breeding, not just making beans.

I’ve always been grateful for the work the pioneers in the US have done in the past, but in a short time legalization you’re making a huge fucking mess of it and you’re a bunch of idiots for supporting that. Monsanto will win in the US, that much is obvious. Companies like Bodhi will be the first to sell out.

Although his involvement is debatable, mr nice lists him and shantibaba as breeders of ssh, and he can’t even afford his own medical treatment. Sensi bought the initial stock from him…

http://www.gofundme.com/nevil

thump easy said:

i dont know anything about dutch people so i thought i would look into dutch i never even thought about that all i ever see is white folks black folks middle eastern folks mexican or south american folks asian folks or navite american like indians like cowboys and indians??? but never dutch ever crossed my mind...

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Dutch are honest and direct. Often misinterpreted by political correct superficial americans as blunt or rude. We call it 'sober'. Not that over the top hype US nr1 wannabe nationalistic thing.

The Netherlands is the third largest investor in the United States, supporting an estimated 700,000 jobs (that includes 5 thanks to me)... The dutch also paid for the US, gave John Adams his inspiration, first embassy... in more professional environments we actually have a great relationship and the dutch are respected for their intellectual honesty.

Life's too short to bullshit yourself or others.

Another amazing condescending post from the great Sativied. You have great information but you are an ass hat through and through.

I got nothing against the dutch, I like their dutch crunch bread and the strain dutch treat .

Bwhahahaha

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D_Urbmon said:

Bwhahahaha

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I love it, worlds smallest violin .

In Michigan most Dutch are ultraconservative, Christian reformed, anti-legalization hypocrites. They are the types that give you dirty looks if you mow your lawn on Sunday, and drink their beer out of coffee cups.

Would I buy sensi seeds?

Sativied said:

Hilarious how desperate some people choose to be delusional and ignorant.

The reason “netherweed’ (what we made from your grass) is such a popular source for pollen checkers and pocket fillers like bodhi (and greenpoint and many many others) is because those are strains. Strains that have been around for a while, strains that continue to be around for a while. Strains that have been tested and improved rigorously over the years. Unlike all the pollen chucks bodhi and similar produce. They call it limited edition, but the proper phrase would be pollen chuck.

The strains and cuts that initially made it to the Netherland produced no where near the potent bud people pretend to remember. I sold it, I’ve personally added strains to the menu when they just came out. All the variation people in the US praise others for…. shameless posers. There are so many examples, and as hard as ya’ll pretend, it’s really not a secret where many of the popular strains today are based on (sensi, positronics, flying dutchmen, dutch passion, mr nice, etc, etc). Maybe for you kids...

That the Temple example wasn’t enough is not surprising at all. You guys deserve nothing more than mocking as you clearly are as clueless about breeding as your idols.

The result of the incompetence of many popular US breeders is:

- A quickly decreasing genetic pool. The fact other pollen checkers use pollen chucked seeds to breed makes it worse and worse. Something some of you will remember in a few years, and then you will again fall back on the work of real breeders in NL.

- Find a keeper packs. Seems to become standard in the US. You don’t buy strains fools. You buy crosses from someone else’s strains. Worse, crosses based on crosses from someone else’s strains, crossed with bag seed/hermie/hyped-cut.

- Many people waste their time on unfinished products, ‘testing’ for the breeder. Clueless fools. Of course if you pollen chuck something based on parents you haven’t bred/stabilized yourself it needs to be tested. Breeding is all about determining the outcome of the seeds…. lol why even write that down, obviously breeding means something else in the US. There’s a difference in creating seeds and breeding (which is gene mapping).

- Users who now buy bodhi chucks, for example medicinal users getting pain relief, won’t be able to buy the same strain a few years from now, or in 2 decades. Because it never was a strain. Anyone with just the slightest clue of what breeding is gets that.

- By filling the pockets of pollen chuckers you make it less interesting for real breeders.

Unless you use someone else’s gear it take a minimum of 9-11 rounds to create a single hybrid. That hybrid will not be suitable for breeding. Simply is not.

I’m not against anyone using the dutch ibls. On the contrary, it’s in fact what both hobby and commercial breeders should do, and the better ones have done. But do it with some fucking dignity instead of this chinese knock off greedy shit. Use it for breeding, not just making beans.

I’ve always been grateful for the work the pioneers in the US have done in the past, but in a short time legalization you’re making a huge fucking mess of it and you’re a bunch of idiots for supporting that. Monsanto will win in the US, that much is obvious. Companies like Bodhi will be the first to sell out.

Although his involvement is debatable, mr nice lists him and shantibaba as breeders of ssh, and he can’t even afford his own medical treatment. Sensi bought the initial stock from him…

http://www.gofundme.com/nevil

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Omg

I rather smoke ditchweed than support this ____

Just give me a landrace that hasn't been manipulated. you can keep your improved _______

perhaps im in the minority, and perhaps it's because I just need 10 good moms. Clone and flower, clone and flower..
Who the hell cares if its stable. I am not doing it for stability/ my own pollen chucking.
Personally I think it's sorta cool to be able to get interesting and possibly one of a kind type genetics..
If the seeds are damn good, and they sdo what they are supposed to do, which is grow, then I am happy.
Quality is my number one concern, not stability, but maybe i'm the only one.

If you want to bitch about people ruining the gene pool, let's talk Greed House Seeds and their strain hunting expeditions

greasemonkeymann said:

perhaps im in the minority, and perhaps it's because I just need 10 good moms. Clone and flower, clone and flower..
Who the hell cares if its stable. I am not doing it for stability/ my own pollen chucking.
Personally I think it's sorta cool to be able to get interesting and possibly one of a kind type genetics..
If the seeds are damn good, and they sdo what they are supposed to do, which is grow, then I am happy.
Quality is my number one concern, not stability, but maybe i'm the only one.

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For sure. It is rewarding to find that 1 in 100 gem that you can keep around and pull clones from. OTH it's nice to have some stable lines around too. I've got a few seeds each of Female Seeds C-99 and Peyote Purple and will never bother with keeping a mother plant around with either of those. They are so stable that I can just pull a seed out and grow it if I want some of that smoke.