Police: Pot might be factor in Montana killing

Wilksey said:

I just broke into your home.

Guess my intentions, and act accordingly.

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I would not have to guess if I had set up a trap.

abandonconflict said:

Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself that death is fitting for thieves. That's not even eye for an eye. That's eye for a finger. It would be one thing if this guy just caught someone in the act and killed them (even with out a warning) but he set up a trap.

Premeditated.

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What did he use for bait...a locked house?

abandonconflict said:

Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself that death is fitting for thieves. That's not even eye for an eye. That's eye for a finger. It would be one thing if this guy just caught someone in the act and killed them (even with out a warning) but he set up a trap.

Premeditated.

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He didn't setup a trap, he put up alarm sensors and a video camera, which to my knowledge is not illegal at all, nor has it ever been illegal to do that. Also not illegal to leave a garage door open.

Did he camouflage the floor after he dug a deep pit and filled it with Punji stakes Ala Bucky? You know what Punji stakes are right? Sharpened wood stakes covered in human excrement.

abandonconflict said:

Some people only steal food.

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If they need to steal food, they can rob a store.
If they need money, they can rob a bank.
If they need a TV, they can rob a Best Buy.
If they need something that's in my house, they can get shot.


Point being, they know the risks that they are taking. They know that by entering a private residence, things might not turn out so well. They know that there is a risk of death, yet they still do it. Why should I care more about someone than they care for themselves?

So you're not even familiar with the event and yet arguing that this person is justified in a planned homicide. I bet you hope someone breaks in to your home so that you can legally kill them.

Breaking into someone's home isn't like stealing something out of a car in the parking lot. Burglars cross a threshold that will undoubtedly create fear for life, regardless of their reason(s) for being there.

Does it matter if they are ready for the burglar, or if caught by surprise? Should it matter?

abandonconflict said:

So you're not even familiar with the event and yet arguing that this person is justified in a planned homicide. I bet you hope someone breaks in to your home so that you can legally kill them.

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Killing someone who breaks into your home should always be justified.

abandonconflict said:

So you're not even familiar with the event and yet arguing that this person is justified in a planned homicide. I bet you hope someone breaks in to your home so that you can legally kill them.

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Who's not familiar?

kelly4 said:

If they need to steal food, they can rob a store.
If they need money, they can rob a bank.
If they need a TV, they can rob a Best Buy.
If they need something that's in my house, they can get shot.


Point being, they know the risks that they are taking. They know that by entering a private residence, things might not turn out so well. They know that there is a risk of death, yet they still do it. Why should I care more about someone than they care for themselves?

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Castle Doctrine. Banks dont shoot back, neither does the grocery store. Maybe thieves should get smart before they get dead.

abandonconflict said:

So you're not even familiar with the event and yet arguing that this person is justified in a planned homicide. I bet you hope someone breaks in to your home so that you can legally kill them.

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Would those two idiots still be alive if they hadn't broke into his house?

NoDrama said:

Killing someone who breaks into your home should always be justified.

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More than justified, it should be expected.

My point has nothing to do with what is legal.

My point is that some people just want an excuse to kill someone because property means more to them than life.

abandonconflict said:

My point is that some people just want an excuse to kill someone because property means more to them than life.

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My point is that if you don't break into peoples houses, your chances of getting shot in a strangers house goes way down.

What did one thief say to the other thief just before breaking into a house?

"Don't worry, they can't shoot us...that's against the law."

abandonconflict said:

I would not have to guess if I had set up a trap.

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I'm asking YOU.

I walked in YOUR home, at night. What are my intentions? Why am I there?

You may not care about yourself, but your estimation of the situation can impact your family, if you have one.

WHY am I in YOUR house?

I'm not arguing about the law. One should be justified in using deadly force to protect themselves and families. They should even be prepared to do so for property. But in a case like this, it is clear that the man just wanted an excuse to kill someone legally.

abandonconflict said:

My point is that some people just want an excuse to kill someone because property means more to them than life.

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It isn't about property, and never will be. Its the presence of an intruder in your home, a threshold that was crossed. Why they are there is meaningless.

Do some people want an excuse to kill? Maybe. So maybe thieves should take not only the scared people that will defend themselves into consideration, but also they should think about the crazy ones who want them to break into their homes just to try out killing someone.

A life that goes around stealing from other people via breaking into their homes should wake the fuck up before someone ends their current worthless existence.

abandonconflict said:

But in a case like this, it is clear that the man just wanted an excuse to kill someone legally.

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And it is clear that the burglar is now dead. So what was your point again? Oh that's right, it doesn't matter. Guy shouldn't of been there.

Wilksey said:

I'm asking YOU.

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I would not have to guess if I had a trap set, and was staring at your image on cctv.

spandy said:

And it is clear that the burglar is now dead. So what was your point again? Oh that's right, it doesn't matter.

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That it is clear that some people here who are prone to particular political dispositions value property more than life.