Playing Music to your plants

cream8

Well-Known Member
HAHAHAHA! WOW! Consciousness arises from a BRAIN and NERVOUS SYSTEM - not ears or a mouth. WOW! I'm stunned.

And plants DO NOT have consciousness.

Do you ask trees permission before you climb them? You might hurt their feelings.

hahaha no. its obvious we have different views on what is consciousness. my involvement with plants very spiritual. plants talk to you in a different way when you consume them or by the way the physically look. they look a certain way when they need something in there diet or are thirsty. i could go on and on ttalking about dietas and plant teachers but i choose not to discuss anyfurther with you because its like talking to a child who only believes what he believes until he experiences something to change his mind. i was just like you...:peace:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness
 

cream8

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My wife has been a research biologist for the last 23 years at a major university. I showed her your 'theory' and she laughed. Enough said...

She works with plants and only plants. She has a terminal degree in microbiology. She knows what she's talking about. And yes, inquiry into this matter is closed. Not to be an ass, but it's science man. Some things we know. It's the nature of science to discover and when tested and proved, to state as fact - it's that simple. I'm not being an ass. I'm a professor, my wife's a professor....our lives revolve around educating others and eradicating myths. Sorry if that offends you.

And don't get me started on mythbusters. It's a television show and by no means authoritative. Trust me people, playing music to your plants doesn't help. It cannot hurt them, but it DOES NOT help. Waste electricity - I don't care......

I just hate that all weed smokers get a bad name because normal people hear stoners say things like what your stating. No one takes us seriously (or our movement) because of all the ridiculous things being said by those who smoke weed regularly. You simply make yourself a target for anti-marijuana advocates. I can see it now - it'll be the next anti-dope commercial. It shows a kid treating his plants as though they're human beings - feeding them, playing them music, taking them to church, stroking them and taking them for walks... Grandma and grandpa are watching the television and think, "just look at what weed does to those kids. what a shame..." And they're right.....what a shame.

2 plants one word ayahuasca. ive showed you the door. your the one who has to walk through it
 

tdiddy

Well-Known Member
It's not that we refuse to see another point of view, it's that we are basing our decisions on science and fact. You who claim that plants are conscious, or have ears, etc. are uneducated and that's all there is to it. You simply don't know what you're talking about to the smallest degree.
 

cream8

Well-Known Member
you win. my personal beliefs are wrong. i dont know what im talking about. these arent the droids im looking for.

all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be
-pink floyd
 

l3ordum

Member
I'm totally with you guys i talk to my plants every day and their is alot of music played around them i cant be sure how much it helps because i havent ever grown a crop i didn't talk to but i really dont care, i think they like it.

And jrh, we're not just a bunch of stoners here who talk to our plants because were stoned. Thats a totally warped prespective to have on it. It would take you two seconds to find numerous people who grow other crops be it vegetables, plants, whatever (who most likley arent high and mabe have never smoked before) that talk to their plants or play music for them and swear by it.So it's not just a bunch of stoners saying we're in love with our plants. I understand the scientific material you have provided on the subject but i haven't seen you offer any scientific evidence that disproves the theory that plants respond to music or a voice. Yes, plants certanly don't have a physical brain or central nervous system but this alone dose not conclude that their is no response to music or speach.

Has your wife ever done a controlled test ( better yet numerous ones ) and concluded that their is absoutley no response? Being a professor at a major university i'd imagine she has the capacity to do such a thing. You have to have an open mind to things. For thousands of years it was universally believed that the earth was flat, Even though nobody had ever fallen off the edge of the earth. This was believed even by the most prominent doctor's, scientists and educators in the world Until Columbus (or whoever preceded him) made it to America and eventualy around the globe.
 

GrowKindNugs

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thank god, i'm not the only one!!! i'm so happy to hear you guys say that...and that dude is being a real asshole, so fuck em, he can keep on growing swagg!! peace guys



Gkn
 

meofcurse

Well-Known Member
thats what i found recently
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]About Positive Music
[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]by Don Robertson[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]The Plant Experiments[/FONT]​
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]In 1973, a woman named Dorothy Retallack published a small book called The Sound of Music and Plants. Her book detailed experiments that she had been conducting at the Colorado Woman’s College in Denver using the school’s three Biotronic Control Chambers. Mrs. Retallack placed plants in each chamber and speakers through which she played sounds and particular styles of music. She watched the plants and recorded their progress daily. She was astounded at what she discovered.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Her first experiment was to simply play a constant tone. In the first of the three chambers, she played a steady tone continuously for eight hours. In the second, she played the tone for three hours intermittently, and in the third chamber, she played no tone at all. The plants in the first chamber, with the constant tone, died within fourteen days. The plants in the second chamber grew abundantly and were extremely healthy, even more so than the plants in the third chamber. This was a very interesting outcome, very similar to the results that were obtained from experiments performed by the Muzak Corporation in the early 1940s to determine the effect of "background music" on factory workers. When music was played continuously, the workers were more fatigued and less productive, when played for several hours only, several times a day, the workers were more productive, and more alert and attentive than when no music was played.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Dorothy Retallack and Professor Broman working with the plants used in music experiments.[/FONT]​
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]For her next experiment, Mrs. Retallack used two chambers (and fresh plants). She placed radios in each chamber. In one chamber, the radio was tuned to a local rock station, and in the other the radio played a station that featured soothing "middle-of-the-road" music. Only three hours of music was played in each chamber. On the fifth day, she began noticing drastic changes. In the chamber with the soothing music, the plants were growing healthily and their stems were starting to bend towards the radio! In the rock chamber, half the plants had small leaves and had grown gangly, while the others were stunted. After two weeks, the plants in the soothing-music chamber were uniform in size, lush and green, and were leaning between 15 and 20 degrees toward the radio. The plants in the rock chamber had grown extremely tall and were drooping, the blooms had faded and the stems were bending away from the radio. On the sixteenth day, all but a few plants in the rock chamber were in the last stages of dying. In the other chamber, the plants were alive, beautiful, and growing abundantly.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]"Chaos, pure chaos": plants subjected to Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix didn't survive[/FONT]​
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Mrs. Retallack’s next experiment was to create a tape of rock music by Jimi Hendrix, Vanilla Fudge, and Led Zeppelin. Again, the plants turned away from the music. Thinking maybe it was the percussion in the rock music that was causing the plants to lean away from the speakers, she performed an experiment playing a song that was performed on steel drums. The plants in this experiment leaned just slightly away from the speaker; however not as extremely as did the plants in the rock chambers. When she performed the experiment again, this time with the same song played by strings, the plants bent towards the speaker.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Next Mrs. Retallack tried another experiment again using the three chambers. In one chamber she played North Indian classical music performed by sitar and tabla, in another she played Bach organ music, and in the third, no music was played. The plants "liked" the North Indian classical music the best. In both the Bach and sitar chambers, the plants leaned toward the speakers, but he plants in the Indian music chamber leaned toward the speakers the most. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]She went on to experiment with other types of music. The plants showed no reaction at all to country and western music, similarly to those in silent chambers. However, the plants "liked" the jazz that she played them. She tried an experiment using rock in one chamber, and "modern" (dischordant) classical music of negative composers Arnold Schönberg and Anton Webern in another. The plants in the rock chamber leaned 30 to 70 degrees away from the speakers and the plants in the modern classical chamber leaned 10 to 15 degrees away.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]I spoke with Mrs. Retallack about her experiments a few years after her book was published, and at that time I began performing my own experiments with plants using a wood-frame and clear-plastic-covered structure that I had built in my back yard. For one month, I played three-hours-a-day of music from Arnold Schönberg’s negative opera Moses and Aaron, and for another month I played three-hours-a-day of the positive music of Palestrina. The effects were clear. The plants subjected to Schönberg died. The plants that listened to Palestrina flourished.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]In these experiments, albeit basic and not fully scientific, we have the genesis of a theory of positive and negative music. What is it that causes the plants to thrive or die, to grow bending toward a source of sound or away from it?[/FONT]
 

meofcurse

Well-Known Member
thats what i found recently
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]About Positive Music
[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]by Don Robertson[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]The Plant Experiments[/FONT]​
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]In 1973, a woman named Dorothy Retallack published a small book called The Sound of Music and Plants. Her book detailed experiments that she had been conducting at the Colorado Woman’s College in Denver using the school’s three Biotronic Control Chambers. Mrs. Retallack placed plants in each chamber and speakers through which she played sounds and particular styles of music. She watched the plants and recorded their progress daily. She was astounded at what she discovered.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Her first experiment was to simply play a constant tone. In the first of the three chambers, she played a steady tone continuously for eight hours. In the second, she played the tone for three hours intermittently, and in the third chamber, she played no tone at all. The plants in the first chamber, with the constant tone, died within fourteen days. The plants in the second chamber grew abundantly and were extremely healthy, even more so than the plants in the third chamber. This was a very interesting outcome, very similar to the results that were obtained from experiments performed by the Muzak Corporation in the early 1940s to determine the effect of "background music" on factory workers. When music was played continuously, the workers were more fatigued and less productive, when played for several hours only, several times a day, the workers were more productive, and more alert and attentive than when no music was played.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Dorothy Retallack and Professor Broman working with the plants used in music experiments.[/FONT]​
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]For her next experiment, Mrs. Retallack used two chambers (and fresh plants). She placed radios in each chamber. In one chamber, the radio was tuned to a local rock station, and in the other the radio played a station that featured soothing "middle-of-the-road" music. Only three hours of music was played in each chamber. On the fifth day, she began noticing drastic changes. In the chamber with the soothing music, the plants were growing healthily and their stems were starting to bend towards the radio! In the rock chamber, half the plants had small leaves and had grown gangly, while the others were stunted. After two weeks, the plants in the soothing-music chamber were uniform in size, lush and green, and were leaning between 15 and 20 degrees toward the radio. The plants in the rock chamber had grown extremely tall and were drooping, the blooms had faded and the stems were bending away from the radio. On the sixteenth day, all but a few plants in the rock chamber were in the last stages of dying. In the other chamber, the plants were alive, beautiful, and growing abundantly.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]"Chaos, pure chaos": plants subjected to Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix didn't survive[/FONT]​
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Mrs. Retallack’s next experiment was to create a tape of rock music by Jimi Hendrix, Vanilla Fudge, and Led Zeppelin. Again, the plants turned away from the music. Thinking maybe it was the percussion in the rock music that was causing the plants to lean away from the speakers, she performed an experiment playing a song that was performed on steel drums. The plants in this experiment leaned just slightly away from the speaker; however not as extremely as did the plants in the rock chambers. When she performed the experiment again, this time with the same song played by strings, the plants bent towards the speaker.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Next Mrs. Retallack tried another experiment again using the three chambers. In one chamber she played North Indian classical music performed by sitar and tabla, in another she played Bach organ music, and in the third, no music was played. The plants "liked" the North Indian classical music the best. In both the Bach and sitar chambers, the plants leaned toward the speakers, but he plants in the Indian music chamber leaned toward the speakers the most. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]She went on to experiment with other types of music. The plants showed no reaction at all to country and western music, similarly to those in silent chambers. However, the plants "liked" the jazz that she played them. She tried an experiment using rock in one chamber, and "modern" (dischordant) classical music of negative composers Arnold Schönberg and Anton Webern in another. The plants in the rock chamber leaned 30 to 70 degrees away from the speakers and the plants in the modern classical chamber leaned 10 to 15 degrees away.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]I spoke with Mrs. Retallack about her experiments a few years after her book was published, and at that time I began performing my own experiments with plants using a wood-frame and clear-plastic-covered structure that I had built in my back yard. For one month, I played three-hours-a-day of music from Arnold Schönberg’s negative opera Moses and Aaron, and for another month I played three-hours-a-day of the positive music of Palestrina. The effects were clear. The plants subjected to Schönberg died. The plants that listened to Palestrina flourished.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]In these experiments, albeit basic and not fully scientific, we have the genesis of a theory of positive and negative music. What is it that causes the plants to thrive or die, to grow bending toward a source of sound or away from it?[/FONT]
 

l3ordum

Member
thank god, i'm not the only one!!! i'm so happy to hear you guys say that...and that dude is being a real asshole, so fuck em, he can keep on growing swagg!! peace guys



Gkn
I was happy to hear that i wasen't the only one too!! I think that guy (and his wife) just needs to open up his mind, it seems like he only believes what he can define with scientific evidence. hopefully he'll work on that. :peace:
 

meofcurse

Well-Known Member
and i found a funny record from mort garson called plantasia


"This is an LP of sounds by moog maestro Mort Garson for plants and the people who love them. Every track is dedicated to a different kind of green buddy and is to be played to help them grow. the possibly unintended result is a batch of mad electro and ambient moog tracks. Every song is a winner. It was a promo item for many furniture stores in Southern California."


heres one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4nbfPZa9Ws
 

jcdws602

Well-Known Member
I've been playing music for my gurls in my flowering room for a while now can't tell ya how much they benefit from it but shit as long as it doesn't have a negative effect right and I just like hearing some bumps while working in my growroom.
 

brutalbuds

Active Member
I love that the Death Metal worked best. I listen to death metal all day so this may have to become part of the routine... Great thread!
 
From what iv heard it vibrates the fibers in the plants and gets them loose so the plant grows faster or something like that cant remember well lol
 

jrh72582

Well-Known Member
thank god, i'm not the only one!!! i'm so happy to hear you guys say that...and that dude is being a real asshole, so fuck em, he can keep on growing swagg!! peace guys



Gkn
Whatever dude. I merely expressed my opinions and thoughts on the matter.

And I grow damn nice buds. I get great genetics and give my plants the ideal growing conditions for them to flourish and reach their fullest potential. Why insult the weed I grow? Because I don't play music to my plants, you assume that I grow schwag?!?! That makes no sense. According to your logic, every grower of primo buds plays them music or else it's bunk? Seriously? I know some serious growers who have NEVER played music to their plants. NEVER. And let me tell you, it's NOT schwag.

Keep doing your thing and I'll do mine. I do live my life based on logic and science. I apologize if that offends you.
 

RetiredToker76

Well-Known Member
Here's my theory ... and it's ONLY a theory ...

First, I don't believe in God or any singular supreme being.
Second, science is good, science is needed, science is FAR from complete.

I have many plants, not a single MJ plant, but I've got various leafy things all over my yard and house, not a single one gets music on a regular basis, all are doing well. It's safe to say music is not NEEDED for good or even great growth.

I have 2 little plants in my office where I work all day and play my tunes all day, these two plants are growing stupidly fast. They are on the same feeding and water schedule as everything else, I have 3 clones of these two plants in other places of the house and the clones are only doing half as well.

Fact: I'm in the room most the day, making it probably the highest concentration of Co2 in the house (during the day anyway.)

Fact: The room is a tiny bit warmer than the rest the house because of 3 computers and 1 server that are always on.

Fact: The air in this room is slightly cleaner because the cats aren't allowed in this room and I have a separate air filter on the AC vent.

So is it the music???? I don't know and I don't really care ...

When it comes down to it here's how I feel. We all know that plants all responds really well to love. Love being the act of caring for a plant. I've killed many a plants and it was because I didn't love them, i.e. didn't care enough to make sure their soil was moist or trim them properly whatever. The ones I do love have no survived 4 moves and 3 States and who knows how many pots and mediums. One plant (a split leaf philodendron monstrosa) is older than I am at 45 years old. My mom bred it from her first 'family' plant and gave it to me when I moved out. I consider this plant part of my home as I've not known life without it, it's safe to say I love it. When I bought my house and stopped hopping apartments all over the country it became a personal goal to put him in the ground so we both could have 'roots.' One week after we closed on the house I killed the flower bed in my front yard, dug a 6' hole in the ground, filled it with Foxfarm (almost $120 worth) and gave my friend a 'final' transplant. He's HUGE a year later. He also flowered for the first time in his 45 years of life. He was already big when I put him in the ground, now he's massive and happy, just like me.

Everything in life is cyclical. Karma does work and science has yet to explain why. All living things react to external stimuli, although 'why' is not always known. There's a thunder storm going on right now, I have one cat sitting in the middle of the floor, the other is hiding under the bed. Why the differences in the same species of creature? We've had the one hiding since he was kitty why is he afraid of something that's been around his whole life and never hurt him but the stray doesn't care? There's no logic behind it, it's just how it is.

I expect my MJ to provide me with a state of mind that is clear, calm, and relaxing. When I start my grow (3 weeks or so from now) I fully intend to be playing music that puts me in a clear, calm, relaxed state for my plants. Scientifically there may be no measure for exactly how or why audio stimulation for plants works, but there are too many supporters who firmly believe it does. I on the other hand believe it won't hurt and that if it does help it can only help positively as I am departing music I love on the plants. I don't think they 'feel' the way we feel, but I have yet to have anyone prove to me that they do not feel in some kind of way.

I will be emparting love, care, respect, and tunes on my plants and they in turn will empart calm happieness upon me. If for no other reason I think it's good Karma to play good tunes for your plants, you get back what you put in that's the way it works.

-RT76
 
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