plant growing 4 leafs instead of two?

Only my second time growing indoors. I was just watering my babies when i noticed that the new set of leafs coming up on one plant has four leafs instead of two? Anyone know what could have happened to cause this. Just thought it was cool. Figured i would share.
 

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HydroRed

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I cant zoom in on the pic, but it looks like its been topped, or it topped itself. It happens and most consider it lucky when it does. Instead of having 1 main cola, your gonna have 2 now. Congrats
 
I cant zoom in on the pic, but it looks like its been topped, or it topped itself. It happens and most consider it lucky when it does. Instead of having 1 main cola, your gonna have 2 now. Congrats
Yeah,that's weird. I haven't touched it at all. looking at it closely it looks as if there's going to be another four coming off next aswell. If not three atleast. I thought it was definitely pretty interesting how it did that. Thanks for the reply
 

HydroRed

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That actually may be the start of a Ploidy of some sort. You'll have to grow it out a bit to know for sure. @Dr. Who might be able to shed some light on this.
 
Have never even heard of ploidy,im going to have to do some more reading lol. Even if it has nothing to do with this. Doesn't hurt to know more.
 

Kingrow1

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Have never even heard of ploidy,im going to have to do some more reading lol. Even if it has nothing to do with this. Doesn't hurt to know more.
Its more whorled phyllotaxy and apical dominance that describe exactly what you have, polyploidy is somthing completely different and often confused here.
 

Cannacat

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Only my second time growing indoors. I was just watering my babies when i noticed that the new set of leafs coming up on one plant has four leafs instead of two? Anyone know what could have happened to cause this. Just thought it was cool. Figured i would share.
That is so cool, I want a mutant plant! It just looked topped at first but then I read the comments and looked at the picture again, looking for the cut stem in the middle or something and it isn't there. Then I had to open the pic in a new tab so I could zoom in and look closer cos it's so weird! Awesome, you're so lucky!
Its more whorled phyllotaxy and apical dominance that describe exactly what you have, polyploidy is somthing completely different and often confused here.
Never heard of any of this, it's really cool. Does it affect the yield at all? Seems like it can only be a good thing to me but are there any other effects? I'll have to do some reading, thanks for giving me a starting point :peace:
 
Ah yeah. It's pretty cool. Not sure how this is going to turn out. Maybe when it gets bigger I'll post some updated pics in this thread just so everyone can see how she turned out.
I actually have a different strain rn as well that is completely messed up. All the leaves are different sizes and shapes. It's really weird. Seems to be growing really crappy tho.
 

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Cannacat

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Ah yeah. It's pretty cool. Not sure how this is going to turn out. Maybe when it gets bigger I'll post some updated pics in this thread just so everyone can see how she turned out.
I actually have a different strain rn as well that is completely messed up. All the leaves are different sizes and shapes. It's really weird. Seems to be growing really crappy tho.
Can't hurt to post some pics man, there's plenty of people on here that might be able to help you out with the messed up one. But the freaky one, she's awesome, please do update us on how she grows cos I'd like to see how that turns out.
 

Cannacat

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Oh haha, duh. Sorry my bad, saying people might be able to help and then forgetting to comment on it myself! The other one, I'm not by any means an expert and it isn't something I've seen myself so I don't have personal experience dealing with it, but from all the stuff I've read in the last few months I know that pH being too high can cause weird new growth like that. I don't know if that's your issue and I'm only going from the one pic and some vague memories of things I've read, but might be worth checking out?
 

Kingrow1

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I may be incorrect on my guess about his plant but
I've personally grown out a polyploidy, and yes it does involve extra leaves.
Mine started off JUST like his. No stoner myths.


Google polyploidy...

*Polyploid* cells and organisms are those containing more than two paired (homologous) sets of chromosomes.


Now google whorled phyllotaxy....


Leaves may also be *whorled
* if several leaves arise, or appear to arise, from the same level (at the same node
) on a stem.

I just ripped that from wiki.
 
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Can't hurt to post some pics man, there's plenty of people on here that might be able to help you out with the messed up one. But the freaky one, she's awesome, please do update us on how she grows cos I'd like to see how that turns out.
Will definitely update later on and the ph may very well be to high because when i looked at my ph meter i read it wrong the first time and bought ph up and ph down...or so i thought.....and i put ph up in to bring it up but like i said i read it wrong and actually made it go even higher than it already was so after that huge fuck up i tried to fix it with ph down....yeah...that didn't work out so well considering when i bought the up and down....i purchased two ph ups so i haven't had anything to bring it down again....I've flushed it alot and just recently i was able to change the soil
 

Dr. Who

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Will definitely update later on and the ph may very well be to high because when i looked at my ph meter i read it wrong the first time and bought ph up and ph down...or so i thought.....and i put ph up in to bring it up but like i said i read it wrong and actually made it go even higher than it already was so after that huge fuck up i tried to fix it with ph down....yeah...that didn't work out so well considering when i bought the up and down....i purchased two ph ups so i haven't had anything to bring it down again....I've flushed it alot and just recently i was able to change the soil
Well this answers a few things I see.

First off STOP any flushing! You did not have an overage or nutrient toxicity of any kind.....Now you do have an S and Ir def.!
See the new growth being thin and yellow? Sulfur and Iron def.....

What are you feeding with - list everything that goes in!

Get some Age Old Kelp extract and foliar feed some at 2tsp per gallon. Cover spray both top and bottom of leaves. (Iron and Sulfur)
OR
A good Ca/Mg product like G&H CALi MAGic......This particular one will help control pH swings and slowly add back the Iron and the Sulfur...

Soil self pH's and you really don't "need" to attempt to adjust it.
Sometimes you may add some dolomite lime to the soil and mix it in before planting. - Depending on the soil mix used.
If you "push" your plants with a synthetic. You should do a watering with a simple bio tea at least once a week. That adds back active living bio's to the soil aiding in many ways - YES, even with synthetic use...

If you feel you must pH your in-going. pH to 6.5 in veg and 6.7 in bloom and forget about "soil" pH!
 
I always get the PH of my water to 5.8-6.0.
That works great for me.

When i'm in week 6 or 7 of flowering the nutes alone will take my water down to approx 6.2 PH. Where i'm from the water from the tap has a PH of roughly 7.2ish.

I will try and water with green tea sometime soon though. It sounds interesting.

That being said i have only been doing it for about 2 years. So i'm no expert.
 
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