Pinworm's 600w RDWC Horrorshow (WWxBB Mainlined - NL5xHaze, Purple Fire, Sour Diesel)

Welcome ladies and gentle-dudes. This is going to be my first hydro run. Did tons of reading, and research for months. Now it's time to grow some dank. Here's a few pics of what's been going on for the past few weeks:




Mainline and LST will be something I focus on this time around. I took a reading of my properties well water, and was stoked. It comes out of the ground @ 25PPM – 6.0 PH, at 58°F (year round!). 5.5 – 6.5 is acceptable, but 5. 8 is ideally where you want to be and it practically comes right out of the tap like that (No need for an RO filter).
I fed until about 2-3' of roots hit the res water, then thought about removing the system. Decided on sticking with it, at least for now. I've been feeding 8 times a day for 15mins, and they seem to love it. I was on the fence about using an intermittent watering schedule (i.e. 4-8 separate feedings @ 15-20mins throughout 24 hours) or running constant 24/7. I did a water depravation test to see how often I would need to run. Like, I would water for 20mins then carefully watch for the first signs of dehydration (when the bottom fan leaves droop) log the amount of time and then adjust the timers accordingly. Thinking once the root structure is nice and developed, I may switch to constant feeding. We'll see.

I’m going to try and document as much info as I can this time around. Most likely will flip when they hit around 1.5ft. I’ll be running White Widow x Big Bud in the bubbler. Also, NL5 x Haze, Purple Fire, Supreme Delight, Sour Diesel, and Purple Urkle in organic soil, alongside the WW. All these will be mainlined, then bonzai'd (except the autos).



I should mention it’s a legal grow here in CA (waay up in the Sierras). Also, should let you know that I’m not completely in-experienced. I’ve grown using dirtbags for 3-4 years now, and have a fairly good idea what my plants want and need. I have to say I’m pretty excited about finally trying my hand at hydro. There are a LOT of fascinating methods and setups out there, but DWC struck me as an easier way for a first timer like me to handle the learning curve.Thought I would share my experience with RIU in hopes that A: We can shed some light on the benefits of soiless media, learn a few things together, and B Because everyone here has been so helpful (It’s really something) I thought I owed them a chance for a giggle at my expense since I’ll be hitting the ground running here. I’ll do my best not to complicate something simple by over-analyzing things. Keeping things simple is necessary for someone like me. When built/operated correctly DWC is a marriage of function and form.

My modifications on the GH line (Flora series @ .7 conversion) formula will include the following supplements/additives:
-H2o2, GH Rapidstart, Calmag, Superthrive, Nutrilife, Botanicare Silica Blast, Botanicare Aquashield, Botanicare Clearex, Botanicare Sweet Raw, and a PK 13/14 around day 35.

Here’s some links about the formula to check out:
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/4387-lucas-formula.html
http://lucasformula.com/
http://www.lucasformulacalculator.com/

Here’s the math on what my WPSF in the Flower room will be (Watts Per Square Foot):
Width x Depth = Sq. Ft (Lumens from available light divided by Sq. Footage) so...My space is 6 feet wide, 6 feet deep. 36 square feet. My 600w bulb puts out a total of 95,000 lumens. 95,000/36 = 2638 lumens per square foot. So, that's just under 120 WPSF. 1+ grams per watt easily achievable.

Here’s the math I used to find my necessary fan size for the veg box - (same math for flower room, different dimensions):
39" x 23" x 92" (in reality, its a bit less due to some airspace being consumed by equipment. Some of that equipment gives off heat, so I'll ignore its space use and overcompensate)
Size in cubic feet - W x D x H: 3.25' x 1.92' x 7.67' = 47.86 cubic feet
Size x 3 to compensate for filter air flow restriction: 143.58 minimum cfm requirement
Adjust for 80% real world efficiency of inline fan - min. CFM @ 80% total: (143.58 / 8 ) x 10 = 179.48 total minimum CFM
So my minimum fan CFM should be at least total minimum CFM x 2, so that I can adjust up if need be. That means that my minimum fan capability should be 358.96. Choosing 2 Vortex inline 6" 449cfm fans, or 3 AbcoTech 240cfm Boosters give me enough overhead to provide enough negative pressure to ensure fresh air uptake at a rate of at minimum 1 full air exchange per minute at 50% speed..

I’m also seeing about hooking up a pH controller. Pretty simple addition that will help keep pH stable while I’m away from the house. Just an automated pH meter that powers a pump in a bucket with pH down solution (@ 1:8 ratio) and a control valve to release drips at a time. Here’s a diagram of what I’m shooting for:



I honestly can’t think of anything about the cultivation, and consumption of marijuana that I don’t enjoy completely. I was hurt pretty bad in a car accident a few years back and was prescribed heavy doses of pain medication. I couldn’t function on it. Couldn’t work, hang out with my friends, spoil my kid. Nothing. Then I learned to grow my own. Ever since, my pain has been manageable even on the worst days, so I’m not shitting you when I say the pursuit of fat dank buds saved my life.

Pull up a chair. Let’s toss her in gear, and see what shakes loose. Any thoughts, notes, questions w/e feel free. I’ll do my best to update weekly. We recognize that you have a choice in threads here at RIU, and would like to thank you for flying Pinworm.

Sub'd!!

I feel like takin a ride on this short bus. Sub'd

Gonna read and follow this one closely sir... You may even inspire me to attempt Dro at some point when things here start cooling down.

You know what I have in store for the near future, so it'll be a little while before I can slow my grow to work on new projects.

BTW what's the total cost of this build?

Welcome, guys. Great to have you along. Everything besides the controller is fairly cheap. Not outrageous for the job it will be doing. I'd say all together (with a decent controller) it should price somewhere in the $150-200 range. Luckily I have everything I'll need, except for the controller, which will automatically increase or decrease the pH accordingly, as well as pH a fresh res perfectly. No guess work. I'm eventually going to do a side by side bubbler test that will show the difference in yield when you let the PH "scale" through the week vs. keeping at a stable 5.8. It will be a nice addition. All I'd have to do is push a button outside the tent, and the pH will correct itself. That alone is worth it to me. Will take some dialing in, but I like a challenge. I'll be doing a lot of automating this run, as I won't be at home much due to long hours at work. I'll be installing a wifi switch to my AC, and heater to control temps and humidity, and fan speed via my smartphone. A float valve to keep water levels stable. Also thinking of putting up a webcam so I can check on the girls whenever I get lonely. I thought about automatic nutrient feeders, but most are a little out of my price range at the moment.

I built the bubbler for a little under $120. Spent a little on extra things like hydroton, timers, meters etc.

Here's a list of everything I used to build the bubblers (in case you feel like building your own):

- 1 Hydrofarm 6w 15LPM Airpump
- 4 Hydrofarm ASCL 6’ Airstones
- 2 Hydrofarm 6' Halo Drippers
- 2 16w (291 GPH) Ponic Pumps
- 2 Enduro-drip ½ Inline Filters
- 2 Permaloc ½ Hose Caps
- 50ft NoKink ¾ Commercial Hose
- 50ft Raindrip ¼ Tubing
- 50ft Raindrip ½ Tubing
- 2ft Poly Vinyl Hose (Clear)
- 100ft Pen Plax Airline tubing
- Orbit ½ Faucet Fitting
- 6 Oatey ¼ Pipe Clamps
- 2 Gardena ½ Quick Connects
- 2 Gardena ½ Quick T’s
- 2 Gardena ½ Corner Connects
- 2 ½ PVC Elbows
- 2 ¼ PVC Threaded Hose Cap
- 2 8' Square Net-pots

I wouldn't suggest a wifi webcam. they are easily traceable back to your garden. by anyone who knows what they are doing with a computer. but everything else sounds awesome.
If you spend the money to have your shit locked up nice and tight you could probably get away with it(webcam). but it's just an extra risk added.

Make sure you post your thread link up in my threads. so everyone else can come see you as well...

Good Luck in your ventures. I'll be watching.

I agree with Stew. Webcam hacking has gotten outrageous in the last few years with people extorting tonnes of money out of people for the nasty things they stick in themselves in front of a computer

There was recently an article on Ars about some kid pawning his family jewels because someone was blackmailing him. I'd feel a lot safer about using a hard wired cam, but there is still risks. If you are bound and determined to use an internet connected camera I would make sure it's not a cheapo Chinese piece of shit. Get a D-link, they should keep their firmwares up to date better then some other places. If you aren't medical and 100% legal I wouldn't risk it.

You can bet your last dollar they all have NSA back doors in them

Sub'd up looks very interesting, I'm trying to do a main line plant as well. Your going to get some great buds....

That's some very useful information, guys. I appreciate it! I was a little weary of doing it myself. Now, I'm going to go ahead and just drop the whole idea. I can't even start to imagine how bad things could get if someone got ahold of any of those shots, and could prove they came from my computer. I mean, I am CA Medical Compliant, and 100% legal, but, still. I don't need any extra drama. Who wants to spend years collecting gear, dialing it in and then just wind up getting "Carlos Dangered" by some 20 year old hacker with a penitent for blackmail. No bueno. Haha.

Unnecessary risks are best to be avoided

Subbed. Been thinking about making a similar DWC. But I just started using organic soil So much stuff to try

I'll be watching for sure. Those controllers seem really handy. Takes all the hassle of manual res' monitoring out. Good for lazy people like me

Cool set up Pinworm.

dlftmyers said:

I'm trying to do a main line plant as well. Your going to get some great buds....

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Your girls are ridiculously healthy, brother. They took so well to the training too. I'm hoping I can re-create your results. At least, for the photo-periods. With the autos, I went ahead and set them up for a Y structure. I know it's not considered very bright to top or trim an auto because of it's short life, but I've seen some people get some nice results from just topping, and removing the upper and lower nodes. tekdc911 pulls it off quite respectably. Not sure if there is a strain of auto out there that takes more than 3 or so weeks to start flowering, but a "complete mainline job" isn't practical for most. At least, that's just what I've read.

Looking wonderful, my friend! Subbed to say the least.

GandalfdaGreen said:

Cool set up Pinworm.

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Thanks Gandalf. That means a lot coming from you, brother. Hoping to start a big batch of ROLS here real soon. May come by and lay a few questions on you, and all the super knowledgeable Organics guys.

If you haven't already checked out what Gandalf's Teas can do for you, go do some reading: Total noob using teas, and I am a believer

Here's some of the threads I've been hitting up lately. No particular order. All have super useful information, and very helpful people:

Dank's Update

Dreaming Big

Iced Grapefruit

Other Side of the Fence

Strange Phenomenon

Small Closet Grow

My *Perpetual* Garden

First HPS Grow - 600w

These are just a FEW really good ones. If I missed you, gimme a holler, and I'll totally edit you in.

You guys can feel free to post anything in here. Pictures, stories, and all that good stuff. It's great to see how everyone else's plants are doing every once in a while anyhow.

Nice ideas here.

I am not certain, but taking the admittedly tedious extra
step of turning on MAC Address Filtering on the Access Point
and then adding only your wireless device's MAC addresses
to the Filtering Table is a fairly good way of stopping a takeover,
but it will not hide what you are doing. For that I recommend
just using a wire. It is still possible. :0)

...and there is not a wireless encryption scheme that is not breakable,
at this time, IIRC. (some are a good deal harder though)

Good luck,

JD

Thanks for the shout-out (thread link) brother!

Javadog said:

Nice ideas here.
...and there is not a wireless encryption scheme that is not breakable,
at this time, IIRC. (some are a good deal harder though)
Good luck,
JD

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Thanks JD. I agree. Some really bright people in here. It sounds like no matter how many preventative steps taken, there's still that small possibility that I could get popped. No too big of a deal. My other additions won't require the ability to view the tent remotely, so I'm not super bummed or anything. I would go crazy wondering who else is watching after the novelty wore off anyhow. Thanks for posting!

Looks cool ill be subd.

As far as cameras go id set some up outside or looking outside of your house. Maybe even purchase a security companies app. I forget which one my friend had but any camera he had hooked up would then be wired to his computer and would report to a cloud server with a security company.

They were motion sensitive so any time the pixels changed the computer would send him a message within the app and he would be connected to his camera right on his iphone.

Since there are no wireless cameras and everything is hard wired and going through a security company it should be harder for the bad guys to get ahold of. Not the NSA though. If they want it theyll get it. Or shut down the company. hahaha But thats neither here nor there. The NSAs not gonna bust someone over a handful of plants. hahaha

M1dAmber said:

Thanks for the shout-out (thread link) brother!

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No problem, M1D. I think it's a smart move to get as many people involved as possible when it comes to our work. It's great to have new ideas, and support from like-minds. Everyone here contributes with some unique and amazing stuff. Let's get the word out.