You need to do your homework.
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Phos deficiency? Flowering auto NL
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No offence.
Ec's would be better, in my opinion. Just treat ec the same. You either have more or less.
If you want to find more about measuring salts. Just do a wiki. It's really important with coir.
BK_201
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Will do, thank you for the help
RetiredGuerilla
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Just in case. Make sure your temps dont get cool at night. Condensation can form on the leaves and when you kick on lights they get bleached.
BK_201
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My tent doesn’t get cooler than about 75 at the coolest. I love in the desert haha, thanks though
polishpollack
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None taken. That's poor argument from you. Everyone here needs you to explain how you know that potassium or magnesium (or whatever you're discussing) is actually the problem. How do you arrive at your conclusions? I think what's going on with you is you just use this forum as a place to play the know-it-all, but be aware that people come here in an attempt to get the right help. If you can't explain why you think something is wrong, then maybe your off the mark? Please refrain from posting your conclusions unless you can prove you're right.
What I know about growing is that most people over fert. I know what some of the signs are of nutrient problems, but not all of them. I know that if people use a soil that is like a super soil mix and don't add anything else unless they are sure they need to, they tend to have fewer problems. What gets me is when people like Tim1987 come here and sound so specific and sure of their answer and yet never offer proof. Why not just admit you don't really know? Or better yet, say nothing at all. The problem has to be diagnosed properly before you respond. To say you're guessing or it's your opinion is worthless junk.
I respect your opinion T
In my opinion it's potassium. Because it's in mid bloom, and needs a lot right now. As most of us know.
Npk are the most mobile macronutrients.
IMHO. This stage of flower. If it's a ph lockout, K would be one of the very first to show.
I think op's ph has to rise. Regardless of which it is.
Read my quote.
Read the whole thread again.
I don't care which it is. Ph has to rise.
Use the chart. You can't read a chart either.
Have a look at potassium, magnesium, calcium, phosphorus and sulphur.
I don't care what the fuck the antagonist is. Ph has to rise.
Stop quoting what I say, and leave me alone.
That chart is for soil..he's growing in coco coir. Runoff of 5.3 is not the end of the world, and i highly doubt the issue is ph related, as if it were, then before you see issues with potassium, you would see a host of problems with calcium, magnesium and phosphorus as well. A potassium deficiency also doesn't look like the pics. A couple more pics of the plant would help, showing the entire plant top to bottom.
Those discolorations, to me, represent either a magnesium issue, or possibly manganese. That's not to say it's not in your medium, but the plant is not getting it. On that note, having too much potassium, would lock out calcium, magnesium, iron and zinc and would acidify your root zone. There are many variables at play, but im quite certain it's not ph related, and its most certainly not a potassium deficiency.
Those discolorations, to me, represent either a magnesium issue, or possibly manganese. That's not to say it's not in your medium, but the plant is not getting it. On that note, having too much potassium, would lock out calcium, magnesium, iron and zinc and would acidify your root zone. There are many variables at play, but im quite certain it's not ph related, and its most certainly not a potassium deficiency.
Please read the chart blitz.
I'll refrain. Because I respect you and the op.
But no where on that chart does it say soil. Or hydro. It's the power of hydrogen (ph). That's all. That's it.
It's all chemistry. And it's all about ions.
Here is a link to your image...https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/167477679866507557/
It clearly states for soil. If it's all just ions, then why don't people in hydro use the same ph as in soil? The charts are different for a reason
Again. Read the chart.Here is a link to your image...https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/167477679866507557/
It clearly states for soil. If it's all just ions, then why don't people in hydro use the same ph as in soil? The charts are different for a reason
You swing in hydro.
Read the thread blitz.
Refer to the chart.
Research ph.
Research cation exchange capacity.
Refer to the chart.
It's not the power of hydrogen..ph is the concentration of hydrogen ions in your medium. The more you have, the more acidic the substrate becomes..the less you have, meaning more hydroxide ions, the more basic it will be. As for why the change in ph matters from coco to soil, is because soil and coco have different cec (cation exchange capacity) values. Soil can hang onto much more cations than coco can, in coco, the lower ph is needed for the elements to bond to the negative exchange sites of coco compared to soil. The attraction won't be as strong if the ph is higher like for soil.
lol..thx for the advice
i research 7 days a week! it's my profession. Pleasae try to grow in hydro, and follow your chart..i'd love to see the results!!! You swing in soil as well..you don't keep it exactly the same..otherwise you'll have at some point either a cal/mag deficiency or iron/copper/zinc..same concept, just different values are needed for inert mediums like coco and hydro compared to soil.
I'm 100% straight coir. DTW.lol..thx for the advice
It's my profession too. I garden for a living.
Ever had the responsibility of an expensive front yard garden?
I'm sorry blitz but you're calling out the wrong person here.
I'm not trying to toot my horn either. But it's the truth.
I've been gardening since I was a Toddy.
All I'm doing is sharing information. That's all.
you do as you wish..i read alot of your comments, and i've commented on them before..i won't take it there again, not here to argue with other members. i personally don't find your posts accurate most of the time, but that's my opinion, as you see in this thread, people said the same thing..you guess alot with little to back it up. I think you showed your knowledge when you said the chart is for anything..doesn't matter the grow medium? That, sorry to say, is a foolish statement. Ions are ions, it's chemistry? Just my hunch, but i don't believe you understand how that chemistry works. Why would i read the chart? It's ph values for soil, not for inert mediums like coco which is what the op is growing in! You give the same advice to everyone..most of the time, i don't see what it's based on at all. in any case, happy growing, good luck to the OP!
Blitz. Please.
It's a chart.
All information a chart needs. Has to be on the chart. Otherwise you don't know, what the fuck, the chart is for.
Read the chart.
Stop trying to contradict what I say.
Please blitz.
I won't, you have proven yourself to make zero sense! You're giving the wrong info, far too many times..again, it's not my concern, it's not my plants..you do as you wish, it's up to individual members to then do their own research and figure out what went wrong. You contradict yourself far too often. Again, happy growing, im done with this lol. What makes no sense is you're telling people growing in coco to ph to around 6..why not 6.5? Your chart shows 6.5 is much better than 6.0. Again, that chart is for soil. Maybe this will teach you something..i have charts too lol.
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Again blitz.
I said please. I'm still refraining as well.
You need to swing in hydro. Period.
That's what I have clearly stated.
I've used reservoirs. The chart I showed works. You let the reservoir swing. That's all you need to do. BUT because of the high cation exchange capacity in coir, you have to know the waste. You could be topping off, and letting your reservoir swing. But, that still doesn't tell you any information about the rootzone.
DTW. Measuring waste is a must.
The hydro chart is referring to pure hydro like dwc.
I'll upload a wiki about cation exchange capacity. Have a think about what the article says. Then wonder why coir is considered a soil / hydro hybrid. Coir is renowned for its extremely high cation exchange capacity.