ttystikk
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Feel free to wait for those certifications, while the rest of us are busy growing weed...
Panel (NextLight Mega) vs higher power COB
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Greengenes707
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As far as the OP's list?...Fluence, Next, Pacific Light Concepts all have ETL/UL listed certifications. Plus post official sphere and/or gonio output numbers.
As far as puffs recommendations...every one of them.
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Nextlight- ETL
Pacific Light Concepts - ETL
Fluence - ETL
Apache - UL
Olive Drab Green
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Canopy today:
Using TastyLED COBs. I don't think they are certified, but they work outstandingly well.
Using TastyLED COBs. I don't think they are certified, but they work outstandingly well.
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ttystikk
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You may cast the first stone ONLY if you can 'certify' that you've never sold an uncertified light fixture.
Otherwise it's just more of your same brand of hypocrisy in the service of attempting to discredit other people's work to try and make yourself and your products look better.
Sad.
Stephenj37826
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So is the CXP420 ETL? That's what the OP is considering.
Johnnycannaseed1
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I like that pure biblical wisdom and absolutely bang on
Greengenes707
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Says the guy who brings up his new untested QB's when actually asked about his other light...the untested citi Maxipad?? And then you get all but hurt because an actual grower(@puffenuff, one of the best around here) asked for some results...any to be exact, not even commercial....and you came up with none. Just name calling out for what reason?...fear, embarrassment, insecurities??? Why couldn't you just man up and answer??? And then to disrespect one of the original LED growers of RIU(and one of the best)???
For someone who calls himself a "classy southern man"...you act like an insecure child who doesn't have the right nikes on.
So how about you leave your little personal jealously attitude in the kids area and redeem yourself by actually answering some questions that have been asked and answered by other companies(more than one...try 5). You have tried to put down every company mentioned and have yet to provide any documentation of results of your claims.
Here are some questions that we actually know the answers to that you try and deflect away...
-Which of your units are certified by UL or ETL? None.
-Which of your units you actually test to put out more µmols/j than any of the certified lights mentioned????None.
Here's a few maybe you will answer cause everyone I have talked to has never heard of you and you have no results to show, so here you go...
-How many lights have you installed in inspected and regulated commercial grows in any of the recreational markets??? Or regulated medical???
-How many state fire inspectors have passed on the installation of your lights???
-Which of you units have documented grows...are said grows presentable to a valid and accepted case study???
-Where are they???
ttystikk
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Butt hurt child?
Takes one to know one, shit slinger.
No one is fooled by your constant attempts to tear down your competition.
Here's a winning idea; why not concentrate on making your own products better instead of wasting our time trashing everyone else's?
I know it's hard for you; after all, you're used to stealing other people's innovations and then claiming them as your own.
You have a bad attitude, a lousy marketing program and a product lineup fast approaching obsolescence. I'd say you have a choice; shut up and get to work actually making better lights- or go work for McDonald's.
Greengenes707
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Looks like I struck a nerve with your recent purchase. Truth hurts...don't blame the messenger. You are so hung up on me it's ridiculous, petty and show how insecure you are with yourself.
And the worst thing is it keep digging yourself hole you can't get out of. Instead of just being transparent and letting the chips fall. And you dragging you beloved makers right in that hole with you.
This thread is about a LIST OF LIGHTS. And all you can do is focus on me and still fail countering just one of the other lights listed. And no amount of your personal feelings is going to change reality.
Answer the performance and use questions and leave your insecurities out of it.
And PS....you can go ask your best buddy why the 2015 cxp250 has a higher µmol/j then just updated last month JGL citi maxipad"? and the cxp cost less per watt the whole time??
Stephenj37826
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Well you still didn't answer the question did you spin doctor. Is the CXP420 ETL or not.
You jumped in to a conversation between A&B with your usually bullshit. It was evedent puffs intentions as well as yours.
You see I never once claimed to be ETL now did I. Secondly I have never bashed your products or any other as far as I know. (Outside of junk like Kind)
Please show me where I have. I just added to the conversation constructively and you being the great shit taking politician you are never miss an opportunity to try and discredit/bash the competition.
You sir are the one who runs around like the thought police on a college campus lol. Go crawl into your safe space again...... Me butthurt lmao.
Olive Drab Green
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I really like drugs. What do you guys think?
Greengenes707
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Is that supposed to be an impressive grow??? You're missing any kind of plants.
So that is you answer to all those questions about performance of a light that has allegedly been around for 1 year+??? That is what you have another untested light??? An incomplete greenhouse that you will be adding supplemental light too??
Speaking of digging those holes...
You charged them $450+ per light(in bulk too I might add... customers talk) for these...
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/LED-linear-high-bay-light-high_1755284736.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.5Z7lyS
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Olive Drab Green
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This is my shit today:
Olive Drab Green
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Only 4 weeks and 6 days in flower. Still got 4-6 weeks yet. Only 241w for the entire closet.
Stephenj37826
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Still haven't answered have you shit talker #1
IS THE CXP450 ETL or is your whole entry into this argument based on deception?????
You threw out there that PLC is certified knowing good and well the fixture the OP was considering wasntt ETL but you still threw that out deceptively.
WELL IS IT OR NOT
Olive Drab Green
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I wonder how hard it is to grow coca. Totally hypothetically speaking.
Stephenj37826
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It seems to be the bee's knees these days.
combustible herbage
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Talk about maxi pads green gre you need a few because you stay on the rag all you do is bitch about everything and treat people like shit. Where did you go that month you was gone over the fake drivers that you was selling oh yeah you ran till it deaded down you are a pussy that needs to shut the fuck up and mind his own business. How many refunds did you give the customers you ripped off none!!!!!!!
Stephenj37826
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@Greengenes707
That's 5 plants out of 25 the grower grew with 8 razors. So he says 5-7 lbs will give me total after done trimming. Try to make fun of those 450 dollar lights that you think you found on Alibaba.... Sure the housing is the same...... Those are over 1.7 umol/j with 3000k 80 CRI.
As I said I never bashed your lights but you choose to bash mine. When the new Citi Maximizer is finished with ETL you'll be glad to know that it will be MSRP 1249 and you think it won't be 1.8 umol/j..... Laugh
We changed the drivers on those fixtures as well as bought top bin only to get them there. That price you showed was for a 80 watt light. In bulk we pay more than 350 for our custom model and if you want to bash us for making 100 a light go ahead. Why don't you share the profit margins of your lights?
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robincnn
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Congrats. You seems to be doing great .
Lets no trash each others fixtures. citi maxipad
We all need each other to compete and do better. We all got different ideas, different RnD budgets.
QB's Yes they are not ETL or UL. We are selling an alternate to COB. Easier to use. Earlier this year @Stephenj37826 come with with the idea of 561C on a board and it is awesome. Mid Power i something that DIY crowd did not have access to before. I am Building a lamp for @NapalmD to test. Captain already doing a journal.
@puffenuff thanks for your awesome journals.
@Greengenes707 you seem to have done great in commercial this year. congrats again
@Stephenj37826 has contributed with boards, unique air cooled duct design
I am sure we all are cooking something new and more exciting. Lets not quote each other or a while.
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