Stephenj37826
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What lights on that list have certificates? Nextlight and...........
Panel (NextLight Mega) vs higher power COB
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Olive Drab Green
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241w of COB from Tasty, 3 weeks, 5 days into flower.
puffenuff
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I asked 3 other legit questions. It's not the first time I've asked you several questions and you didn't answer them all. If you don't have the answers, just say so.
If I wanted to troll you I'd just throw a bunch of the shit you spew back in your face. Not ask questions I hoped to get answers to.
pop22
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certifications? Why, did you see the certificates the companies claim to have? Just as many bullshitters here as in China. And they are good to have but when your a new company, that a lot of money to shell out in the beginning. Certs don't guarantee a good product either, just means they made a model and got it inspected.
Anyone with half a brain, holding one of these panels in their hand, can see the quality. I've seen thousands on electronics boards in my life, I can tell a good build when I see one. I'm more than willing to be the lab rat on this one!
Anyone with half a brain, holding one of these panels in their hand, can see the quality. I've seen thousands on electronics boards in my life, I can tell a good build when I see one. I'm more than willing to be the lab rat on this one!
pop22
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Yes, tasty is another good company! i know a couple people blown away by what a good light can do.
Olive Drab Green
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Two more, very quickly:
Abiqua
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Like Houyi? dont be so quick to fall onto the sword.....
Olive Drab Green
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Secondary budsites, 2.5 to 3 feet away from the emitter:
pop22
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I fall on no sword, and I pledge allegiance to no man. I also, know what I know, And I know without doubt, it was one hundred dollars well spent.
cdgmoney250
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So you are selling kits that are plug and play, use less energy, create more light than the Next Light Mega (which uses basically the same chips) and are selling these kits at less than half price of the Next Light Mega?
Sounds too good to be true. If not, that's amazing and I commend you guys (robin) for always pushing the envelope. That would be pretty game changing.
But as puff pointed out, these claims seem largely unsubstantiated whether true or not. If these claims can be backed up with proper documentation, then I feel it falls upon you (the vendor/owner of product you are trying to sell/maker of said claims) to provide the burden of proof.
Also, calling members here "wise ass" and "trolls" for asking you to backup a claim is pretty weak sauce. Sure doesn't reflect the professionalism of a company I would like to work with. Just sayin.
Stephenj37826
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So your telling me asking for "certificates" on a stated "custom build" isn't trolling?????? Also the LM561C is 2 generations ahead of LM561B. The info has been posted in the quantum board thread. All these"different" techs that are all the sudden unproven is crazy. How long have people been running the Vero 29 Gen 7????? How can they claim it's better than gen 6 without grow journals and data? Oh wait because it's a newer version of an existing product......... It would be different if all the info wasnt posted and said person I called a "wise ass" had not seen it already. He knew the answers to his questions before he asked them which in my book is being a smart ass....... But whatever.
puffenuff
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Hey bro, you need to knock it off with all these troll comments. I was asking legitimate questions. Some of these questions I asked in that other thread you're referencing and they went unanswered. I just want to know if there are any completed grows with these new lights of yours. From the lack of answers, I guess not, so I'll stop asking.
The thing is...I keep hearing how much better they are than LITERALLY EVERYTHING AVAILABLE...but I haven't seen any actual numbers from a sphere or a completed grow or anything. You jumped in a thread where the original poster didn't even ask about your lights and started saying how much better and cheaper yours are than everything else. So fuck me for wanting some validity to those claims. Safety certificates might not be important to you, but they are a good reason to pay extra. And if you think it's just me being a smart ass, you clearly don't know me. That said, I'll take being a smart ass any day over being a dumb ass. Like I told you earlier, if I wanted to troll you, I'd go about WAY differently.
Stephenj37826
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He did mention me in the thread see poll...... Also the diy kits as well as others in that poll are not certified.
Also only complete fixtures IE not "Custom" would be certified. Change one thing and you will have to get re-certified.
Johnny Lawrence
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So does Beetle Juice.
Olive Drab Green
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Put 'em in a body bag, Johnny.
ChaosHunter
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I don't think QB were meant to "take over" or "replace" the COB DIY or ready made systems. These boards are no different than Cree or Citi coming out with a new gen chip. QB is just a different format of COB lighting that can be used in places where traditional COBs might not be able. But also can be placed end to end to make a strip or "box of light" etc. etc. These boards will solve a few issues and are more DIY friendly for a lot of people. They can be in a cabinet for a micro grower or built for a cash cropper. All of the COB light companies whether selling kits or premade lights are top notch and will produce. Give it some time and results from the Quantum boards will produce too.
What we all need to do is band together and try to help people from choosing these Amazon Chinese lights. Hell I bought one before I even knew about COBS.
What we all need to do is band together and try to help people from choosing these Amazon Chinese lights. Hell I bought one before I even knew about COBS.
tstick
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I think it's pretty easy to extrapolate from....
1.) Already-known information about the performance/specs of the boards
2.) Integrity of the sources backing the idea as being legitimate designers/companies
3.) Basic understanding of what kind of light plants like
4.) The advantageous ergonomics of a thin panel
...that, in the hands of a decent grower, they should work great. I really don't see what there is to question. These boards are obviously a good idea. Will it be the best idea in 5 years from now in LED lighting? HELL no! For sure, something else will come along that will be even better! But, it is now.....and these are here as an option now. I can see taking a gamble on the idea.
1.) Already-known information about the performance/specs of the boards
2.) Integrity of the sources backing the idea as being legitimate designers/companies
3.) Basic understanding of what kind of light plants like
4.) The advantageous ergonomics of a thin panel
...that, in the hands of a decent grower, they should work great. I really don't see what there is to question. These boards are obviously a good idea. Will it be the best idea in 5 years from now in LED lighting? HELL no! For sure, something else will come along that will be even better! But, it is now.....and these are here as an option now. I can see taking a gamble on the idea.
puffenuff
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Yeah, my bad. I didn't look at the poll. That's beside the point anyway. No certs on custom builds. Got it. Makes sense. We're two for four now.
Stephenj37826
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See website..... www.northerngrowlights.com
You can use Samsung's own tool and compare the LM561B to the LM561C. Even if both results are not perfect they will still be linear to each other showing the advantage of the 2 generations newer LM561C.