Organic Space Dawg Tga Roor water only

whitey78

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Since I had started organics I felt teas were mandatory on a weekly basis or every 3 waterings or so... What I kept running into was my plants were running out of SS early and I was running a fair % of SS and I don't run co2, way more than enough to prevent running them out by the halfway point... And my results were decent but not the nugs I know I can produce..

So my most recent run of tga's the void and qush I decided to follow subs initial suggestions, ie... "Water only"... Sugars at day 30 and 45, as well as a soluable myco between weeks 2 & 3 (not sub recommended but rather the rev...) and this run has produced the best buds quantity and quality-wise I've done to date even though my SS was made from recycled SS and base...

But what I think what was happening is that when I'd hit them with the teas so often; the micro life being introduced was so abundant, they would devour/break down the materials too quickly in the container requiring my ladies to need supplementation to make it through... Ie more teas/bottled organic soup...

My advice is similar to what you (OG poster), unless the plants look like they're in need of nutrition, go with the water only approach the first couple go rounds until u get the SS %'s close... Then see what throwing a tea in the mix will do at certain points in bloom... I think teas are a valuable addition in veg; pre-final container.... but once you drop your clone/seedling into the final pot with supersoil, let things be until u get familiar with the strain...

I cant say I've been happier with my results since using only water (RO maker that adds 30ppm of ca/mg back into the water) and 1tsp per gal of molasses @ day 30 & 45, my yields have never been as good either which I attribute to the mycos at all transplants and a soluble myco between weeks 2 & 3 of bloom...

Ive been trying to figure out and combine the best of subs supersoil style of growing and the revs TLO.... Both are very similar and use mass amounts of amendments, the no till guys don't consider it organic or whatever... But SS is as simple as it gets, the TLO provides the soil recycling aspect along with a few other things like vermicomposting (werm-farming) but I'm not content with my results yet because I know they can be better but the simpler I seem to make it, the better my end result is...

My my advice for space dawg... Which I have the small bud, super branchy pheno that I have yet to grow good enough to like but I really haven't given her a good proper run in a proper sized container and always end up supplementing with soup... but top and train aggressively, try to keep the secondary branching in check or else you'll have a giant bush with tiny little buds that doesn't yield shit... I still have my pheno but she's been pushed to the back of the tent with the rest of my banzai-ish clones to be cloned and ran at a later date... I have yet to be impressed but I tend to think its my growing skills rather than the strain.... I have batch of SS waiting to be mixed so we shall see what happens on the next run once the soil is ready...
 

roor8911

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Thanks for your experience with the teas etc whitey...... "But what I think what was happening is that when I'd hit them with the teas so often; the micro life being introduced was so abundant, they would devour/break down the materials too quickly in the container requiring my ladies to need supplementation to make it through... Ie more teas/bottled organic soup..."

This is exactly what i thought to be honest... and why i avioded them......that or it might confuse the plant with the constant changing microbial enviroment......this is beside the extra costs of having to buy the stuff for the teas etc, every 3 waterings would use a lot of extra ammendments.....

not a fan of revs style to be honest tlo was the first book i got on organics but almost instantly put me off the idea.. with his spikes and stuff... alot easier to just mix up aload of soil ha

thanks for advice...... i will keep updating

RooR
 

roor8911

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updates will be going into her final home in next couple of days.....started the mainline....might not be the best plan with this strain as she realy wants to branch out but wel see how it goes....

Enjoy Peace RooR
 

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roor8911

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thanks....she seems to be settling nicely into her new home now....
thanks for following
RooR
 

roor8911

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Thanks spicy.... 20 L stout pots i think mate.. what you using?
pic updates coming soon.....
RooR
 

roor8911

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updates.......
mainlined for 16, now its time to just let her get on with it and fill out before flipping it to flower
 

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roor8911

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thanks for all comments guys..... hoping shes gunna be a she...loving the t5's but really need to get my hands on some PAR lighting before flip time...

RooR
 

roor8911

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google PAR (photosynthetically active radiation... or something like that) lighting on rollitup.. theres a thread on here that goes into great detail explaining the light wavelengths that plants actually use and seems interesting....... there aquarium lights generally but people seem to be having good results using them in grows..(hyroot i think was one guy).. from what i gather..... from that thread (sorry lost all my bookmarks so cant give you a link :( ) but thats sort of what l.e.ds are trying to do with the mix spectrum of blue and red..... but with the aquarium lights you can sort of create your own spectrum and provide cetain wavelengths not availiable in other forms of "grow lights" my memorys a little shakey on it as not read up in a while ...will update as soon as i have them in and ready but i reccomend checking out the thread..... some very interesting reading.... heres some updated pics... and also some comparrison pics of HPS vs PAR
 

roor8911

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heres a chart for light absorption as well as some spd charts from the bulb manufactuer.....

the first chart shows..... at what particular wavelength of light different types of clorophyl is being absorped...it should show what percentage of the light absorped...... but the percentage value is missing.
( this isnt a ganja specific chart though)

absorbtion.jpg

some link to the charts from the bulb manufactuer showing what wavelengths of light there producing

http://www.wave-point.com/images/LampMain2_enlarge.jpg

im going to be using the.....
ultra growth
super blue
sun wave
coral wave
and i might add a uvb bulb for added thc production

RooR
 

roor8911

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shes a she ohh yeaaah :D....
updates....started adding the t5 PAR lights..... got lots more to buy yet........ just flipped lights to 12/12 as dont want to run out of room again

RooR

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