Organic Space Dawg Tga Roor water only

Im baaaaack
So was on here before with the cheese quake see thread here (https://www.rollitup.org/organics/743281-cheese-quake-tga.html) back with another TGA "space dawg" anyone run this before??
will update with all info when the seed sprouts

ok so, shes (hopefully), is above ground took a couple days to germ.
As always i just planted straight into bio bizz all mix and lightly watered.

When shes big enough shel be transplanted into her second home, with a majority bio bizz all mix and a small bit of ss in the bottom of container for when she starts to need a small feed.
Before her final transplant into stout 20l pots with a 50%/50% mix of all mix and my SS mix same ration as the CQ maybe a little less
heres my SS mix
soil recipe (this recipe is for ALL 50L of soil !NOT! JUST WHAT IS IN THE ONE POT)


50l bio bizz all mix
2kg ewc
425g fish blood and bone meal
283g bat guno
170g rock phosphate
1.5tbsp epsom salts
1 tblsp dolomite lime
azomite just mixed a good amount in but still went lightly on it not used it before
3/4tbsp humic acid pwder
300g kelp meal
150g oyster shell
20l coco coir
100g super single phosphate
200g potash
will mix a hanfull of DE into soil when potting up for added silica and pest protection

Since my last run i have changed my lighting system to a t5 set up. I cannot wait to see the results and when i have more money I will be going to a PAR lighting set up

ok so here the young one is... will be traning her with mainling when she gets older

Peace RooR

its a long road ahead ha

anyone run this before in organics any advice/tips

peace RooR

this girl really wants to grow..... looking good..... i am liking the even spread of light i am getting with my new t5
will keep updating regular
peace RooR

Lookin real good roor! Have you ran that custom soil mix before?

Thanks Don..... yeah man ran it on my last go check out the link at top for my previous run.... cheese quake

at the moment shes just sitting in all bio bizz all mix

I think you could do with a bit extra punch of trace elements. Be sure to give it tea with kelp or alfafa.
How many liters of that soil are you planning to put at the bottom if you havent put it already? No mycorrizae or bacteria?

i guess itd be about 10l as there 20l stouts and ill be doing just under 50/50........

yeah should be adding myc if i can afford it....... but not mesing about with teas or stuff like that unless its absolutely needed..... ie pests or defficiencys.... im trying to do this as hassle free and as cheap as possible.. check my link at top of page for my last run.............

It was cheese quake.........this was in same soil a 50/50 ratio with added myc........ and was best yield/smoke ive had yet.......id say this was mostly due to the better gentics and a healthy plant throughout though..... and not so much my skills

i did nothing to it.... but a half assed attempt at main lining..... all i added was water and then a couple of waterings with mollasses near the end....... it was in a box with temps dropping below 45F at night.... and getting as high as 100f in day.......... so drastic change from day to night temps and truned out great still...............infact she fooking loved it all they way!..... until i missjudged the stretch and she started to get burnt

i just dont see the point in simplifying things with organics..... then constantlly changing how your soil is reacting by applying teas of this and teas of that..

each to their own..... but the teas thing is just not for me.....

thisl be my fourth run all together.... went organics from start and cocked my first run up completley! but constantly learning so i may change my mind but i doubt it

Peace RooR

"I think you could do with a bit extra punch of trace elements" what do you think im missing?

Teas really increase microbial activity in the soil. If i were you i would SERIOUSLY consider making worm casting tea with a bit of kelp in a couple of weeks and youll see yourplants get a shade of green never before seen. I really think the roots love a bit of tea every so often.
http://www.nofanj.org/LiteratureRetrieve.aspx?ID=104151
If you skim through that it will give you an understanding of how microbes and bacteria play a crucial role in making nutrients available to the plant.
For when you have some money, heres the ABSOLUTE BEST mycorrizae product ive come across has added benefitial bacteria too:
http://www.thenutrientcompany.com/product/tnc-mycorrmax/

Ill be watching closely on your pheno hunt. Ive been wantiong to do one myself and find that face numbing pheno.

roor8911 said:

"I think you could do with a bit extra punch of trace elements" what do you think im missing?

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I pulled a turkey move and skipped the part where you said you added azomite. I thought you hadnt and thought you could add more kelp and maybe even some alfafa? But should be fine.

thanks for reply man..... i have read teaming with microbes and have a very baisc understanding of how the microbes and that work to hold and maintain but also convert nutietns into usable food for the plant

did you check out the pics from my last run with cheese quake? i dont think those could of got more green haha such a dark healthy looking plant with no clawing and praying leaves pretty much all the way thorugh and faded just in time to a nice yellow/ lime green. mmmmmmmm

ahh fair enough haha i was thinking..... i thought i had everything covered.......but it was nearly a year ago now since i made that soil, so i cant remeber whats what in it haha... i have it all written down somewhere
its basically subs recepie but i though it was lacking (haha like i know) in trace... so i just tried to make it have everyting it needed i added a couple of things like single super phospahate and other stuff to make things more available.. also want to reammened and not throw away my soil like sub does.

im not exaclty doing a pheno hunt as i just do one at a time purely personel and to learn for when i get my own place not rented and can do more 4 or 5.... but i try take notes and take as many pics as possible so i have things to look back on. face numbing does sound good though haha

Peace RooR

Ye i did see they looked very nice. But the green im talking about is on the new shoots, and the leaves just keep a healthy crazy shine throughout the whole process. Thats the main difference i saw upon using earth worm teas, the new growth is healthy as can be, which makes me think the roots really like it. I even saw a differencein using my own worm castings than bought ones from a local farm.
Hope you get a lot females and that pheno, and hopefully a generous yield. I hope you decide to brew a couple of teas, its not messy at all. Keep posting pics!

hmmmm i have seen that shine on some peoples plants..... but they usualy used neem ......so i thought it was that....
you have me interested now but dont have money for equipment air stone tubing etc....
still want to try vermiculture at some point too..

haha ohh i will be love photographing this plant

RooR

Hey roor,
your 425g of fish blood and bone meal. Is that 425g of each?

hi bloodhound....no its called fish blood and bone meal... so its just 425g of that.

peace RooR

Loving this T5 great growth compared to my shitty 3 cfl setup before
seems alot quicker i cant wait to try the PAR lights been slowly building up my selcetion got 1 ultra growth 1 coral and one sun light so far lots more to buy yet.....

anyway enough of my rambling some pics

:O SHE'S A BEAUT!!!!

aint she just ha t5s are great

RooR