Obama: ...I smoked pot as a kid, and I view it as a bad habit and a vice," he tells '

gioua

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/01/19/obama-marijuana-not-so-bad/4649883/

President Obama says marijuana use is no more dangerous than alcohol, though he regards it as a bad habit he hopes his children will avoid.
"As has been well documented, I smoked pot as a kid, and I view it as a bad habit and a vice, not very different from the cigarettes that I smoked as a young person up through a big chunk of my adult life,'' he said in a magazine interview. "I don't think it is more dangerous than alcohol."
He said marijuana is less dangerous than alcohol "in terms of its impact on the individual consumer.''
"It's not something I encourage, and I've told my daughters I think it's a bad idea, a waste of time, not very healthy," he said.
Obama made his remarks in a series of interviews with The New Yorker, which published a story about the conversations in its Jan. 27 issue and on its website.
Marijuana remains illegal to possess or sell under federal law, although Colorado and Washington have adopted state laws making it legal to possess and use small amounts. A number of states have decriminalized the weed and authorized it for medical uses.
Obama said he was troubled by the disproportionate arrests and imprisonment of minorities on marijuana charges.
"Middle-class kids don't get locked up for smoking pot, and poor kids do," he said. "And African-American kids and Latino kids are more likely to be poor and less likely to have the resources and the support to avoid unduly harsh penalties.
"We should not be locking up kids or individual users for long stretches of jail time when some of the folks who are writing those laws have probably done the same thing,'' he said.

He said legalizations of marijuana in Colorado and Washington are important experiments "because it's important for society not to have a situation in which a large portion of people have at one time or another broken the law and only a select few get punished."
At the same time, Obama said legalization is no panacea for social problems and the experiment with legalization in those two states "is going to be, I think, a challenge.''
Mason Tvert, director of communications for the Marijuana Policy Project in Denver, which advocates for legalization, said Obama's remarks underscore the need for reconsidering federal and state marijuana prohibitions.
"The first step to improving our nation's marijuana policy is admitting that marijuana is less harmful than alcohol. Now that he has recognized that laws jailing adults for using marijuana are inappropriate, it is time to amend for those errors and adopt a more fact-based marijuana policy,'' Tvert said.
"Every objective study on marijuana has concluded that it is far less harmful than alcohol to the consumer and to society. Marijuana is less toxic and less addictive than alcohol, and it does not contribute to violent and aggressive behavior like alcohol does,'' he added. "Our laws should be based on the facts, and it's a fact that marijuana is much safer than alcohol."
Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance, hailed the president's comments and said his description of the Colorado and Washington moves as important "really puts the wind in the sails of the movement to end marijuana prohibition.''
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
was this a thread already?
i'm just being a smart ass gioua. cheesus started one in the politics section, but that doesn't count imvho..

i asked in that thread, if why obama is so pro-cannabis, why he doesn't try and reschedule it, and lastly, just because this president is ok with not upholding federal law, who's to say the number 45 is going to feel the same way, and if the law is not changed, what's to stop number 45 from prosecuting people who he / she feels are in violation of federal law?
 

Unclebaldrick

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Didn't even read it (and this might be the beer)... But does anybody give a fuck anymore? This paragon of change has had the sum net effect of forcing us to do business with medical insurers - who are exempt from anti-trust investigations. So.... Very..... Sad.....

Where are all the real fucking socialists?

Insert link to The Stranglers "no more heroes".

I had a dream last night that I actually posted in politics.......
 

gioua

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i'm just being a smart ass gioua. cheesus started one in the politics section, but that doesn't count imvho..

i asked in that thread, if why obama is so pro-cannabis, why he doesn't try and reschedule it, and lastly, just because this president is ok with not upholding federal law, who's to say the number 45 is going to feel the same way, and if the law is not changed, what's to stop number 45 from prosecuting people who he / she feels are in violation of federal law?

nah..I'm not political.... all these folks are full of air.. saying whatever best serves themselves
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
nah..I'm not political.... all these folks are full of air.. saying whatever best serves themselves
i'm not super political myself, although i obviously have my own personal world views, but i do enjoy going into politics and stirring shit up once in awhile..
 

gioua

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i'm not super political myself, although i obviously have my own personal world views, but i do enjoy going into politics and stirring shit up once in awhile..
I found it as effective as going into the religious section.. sometimes worse..
 

AimAim

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i asked in that thread, if why obama is so pro-cannabis, why he doesn't try and reschedule it
Our President is not "Pro-Cannabis". I voted for him first term hoping for the "change". I could not have cared less about his position on marijuana issues. I expected him to make some social reforms that he has failed miserably upon.

Oh yeah, he's "Black". He's also half white or whatever his heritage is. I could not care less he's just another political tool.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Our President is not "Pro-Cannabis". I voted for him first term hoping for the "change". I could not have cared less about his position on marijuana issues. I expected him to make some social reforms that he has failed miserably upon.

Oh yeah, he's "Black". He's also half white or whatever his heritage is. I could not care less he's just another political tool.
idk, but when someone says the following, President Obama says marijuana use is no more dangerous than alcohol, then i'd say they're pro cannabis, as they're surely not anti-cannabis..
but you're right on your other point, obama is just another douche who got elected and is now doing what those who got him elected in the first place wish him to do, that much is clear..
i voted for him, twice even, but not because of his stance on cannabis either, mainly for the fact that he looked like the less shitty of the two shitty options i had to pick from..
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Our President is not "Pro-Cannabis". I voted for him first term hoping for the "change". I could not have cared less about his position on marijuana issues. I expected him to make some social reforms that he has failed miserably upon.

Oh yeah, he's "Black". He's also half white or whatever his heritage is. I could not care less he's just another political tool.
It doesn't matter whom you elect. I wonder ... he probably did stand behind many of his '08 promises, e.g. closing Gitmo and rolling back the Patriot Act. I'll wager dollars to donuts that the real bosses explained things to him, and ever since it's been the same old. So I do not lay the blame at the Presiden't feet. The truly scary part is that the real blameholders are so invisible. Say hello to the new boss.

[video=youtube;SHhrZgojY1Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q[/video]
 

gioua

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idk, but when someone says the following, President Obama says marijuana use is no more dangerous than alcohol, then i'd say they're pro cannabis, as they're surely not anti-cannabis..
but you're right on your other point, obama is just another douche who got elected and is now doing what those who got him elected in the first place wish him to do, that much is clear..
i voted for him, twice even, but not because of his stance on cannabis either, mainly for the fact that he looked like the less shitty of the two shitty options i had to pick from..
I can say guns are more dangerous then knives.. and still dislike knives..
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
It doesn't matter whom you elect. I wonder ... he probably did stand behind many of his '08 promises, e.g. closing Gitmo and rolling back the Patriot Act. I'll wager dollars to donuts that the real bosses explained things to him, and ever since it's been the same old. So I do not lay the blame at the Presiden't feet. The truly scary part is that the real blameholders are so invisible. Say hello to the new boss.

[video=youtube;SHhrZgojY1Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q[/video]
so, you're saying that it doesn't matter who we elect, we'll just keeping getting the same shit that the people who hold the real power in this country want us to get?
btw, i tend to agree with this line of thought, and think the whole republican / democratic thing is two sides of the same shit stained coin..

kind of depressing though really isn't it? if this is true, then no matter what the will of the people want, we'll continue getting more of the same, and say please and thank you even before and after our butt sex... what's the point? i guess one president from time to time does manage to make an occasional law or two that might have an effect, but over all, they're just doing as told like the rest of us..
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
I can say guns are more dangerous then knives.. and still dislike knives..
lol, very true, i would just think that someone who has smoked bud on more then one occasion even, would tend to be pro cannabis, but this is politics after all..
 

gioua

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lol, very true, i would just think that someone who has smoked bud on more then one occasion even, would tend to be pro cannabis, but this is politics after all..
it's all about power and control with these folks.. if society was anti baby... they would be anti baby...
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
so, you're saying that it doesn't matter who we elect, we'll just keeping getting the same shit that the people who hold the real power in this country want us to get?
btw, i tend to agree with this line of thought, and think the whole republican / democratic thing is two sides of the same shit stained coin..

kind of depressing though really isn't it? if this is true, then no matter what the will of the people want, we'll continue getting more of the same, and say please and thank you even before and after our butt sex... what's the point? i guess one president from time to time does manage to make an occasional law or two that might have an effect, but over all, they're just doing as told like the rest of us..
I am not dead certain of this, but it seems the best explanation by a long shot. ~sigh~

Wanna get really depressed? look up clinicaltrials dot gov and search Sativex™ ... it's being positioned as methadone for stoners. It will be the Gov't-approved, Pharma-monopolized, insurance-enabled go-to treatment for those who just can't shake the devil of relapsing dependence to those soul-rotting marijooanas.

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01747850?term=sativex&rank=4
 
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