NYC explosion..

Rob Roy · Sep 21, 2016

OddBall1st said:
Property is either bought, or taken by brute force. That`s all there is to that.

I think I told you before, You come in my house you play by mty rules, You live here in the US, you play by the rules.

The problem you have is rules, which differ from border to Border. You fail to recognize that. Buy a boat, go to International Waters and live it up dude.

So, you've never made anything which became your property ? Can't some kinds of property be created from natural resources ? Ever grow a garden ? Build a house ?

What if government comes into your house ? Do they need YOUR permission?

The problem you have is you buy into false dichotomies and don't comprehend the difference between a revocable privilege granted by an external "authority" and freedom of the individual to self determine.

Rob Roy · Sep 21, 2016

SneekyNinja said:
Rob Roy believes in Private Paramilitary Forces to protect people... if they pay up.

And his courts are magic private courts.

If you don't pay government protection money (property taxes) , what will they do ? Will they steal your house ?

Do you have any real choice in that ?

If alternative service providers were allowed to exist and you could pick the one that you liked, would that be a bad thing versus having no real choice in the selection of where you spend your money?

OddBall1st · Sep 21, 2016

Rob Roy said:
So, you've never made anything which became your property ? Can't some kinds of property be created from natural resources ? Ever grow a garden ? Build a house ?

What if government comes into your house ? Do they need YOUR permission?

The problem you have is you buy into false dichotomies and don't comprehend the difference between a revocable privilege granted by an external "authority" and freedom of the individual to self determine.

Sorry, I was thinking real estate.

OK, you can self determine in any other Country in the world. Not in the USA. We fought and won the Revolutionary War to get away from and not be subjected to self determination, like the King we left behind.

Rob Roy · Sep 22, 2016

OddBall1st said:
Sorry, I was thinking real estate.

OK, you can self determine in any other Country in the world. Not in the USA. We fought and won the Revolutionary War to get away from and not be subjected to self determination, like the King we left behind.

Apology accepted.

The Revolutionary war did not bring lasting freedom, it merely brought a kinder master for a few years, but they never threw away the whip.

In fact the new masters didn't bother to hide the whip for very long. Can you say "alien sedition act of 1798" ? I know you can.

SneekyNinja · Sep 22, 2016

OddBall1st said:
Sorry, I was thinking real estate.

OK, you can self determine in any other Country in the world. Not in the USA. We fought and won the Revolutionary War to get away from and not be subjected to self determination, like the King we left behind.

Wtf are you waffling about?

Self determination is the right to vote and elect your own Government.

Rob Roy · Sep 22, 2016

SneekyNinja said:
Wtf are you waffling about?

Self determination is the right to vote and elect your own Government.

OddBall1st · Sep 22, 2016

Rob Roy said:
Apology accepted.

The Revolutionary war did not bring lasting freedom, it merely brought a kinder master for a few years, but they never threw away the whip.

In fact the new masters didn't bother to hide the whip for very long. Can you say "alien sedition act of 1798" ? I know you can.

Oh yes, yes I can say that. The laws were set in place to guard and protect against insurgency. Kinda what Trump is suggesting we adhere to in order to quell the current flow of just any ole body that wishes to settle in the new lands. For example, no Kings will claim land and govern it. It allowed the Federalists to deny access or port to ships like Pirates, Royal Navy, and It allowed the Federalist to deny citizenry to those that become or are violent, criminal or any other actions that will warrant deportation. The French were looking to claim territory and these laws allowed the Federalist to have grounds for declaration of war.

In short, for readers like Lou, it allowed the Government to say,..."no, you many not live here"

OddBall1st · Sep 22, 2016

SneekyNinja said:
Wtf are you waffling about?

Self determination is the right to vote and elect your own Government.

Let`s check that,....

Are you going to vote ? Is the Candidate you vote for the candidate you selected to run for President, or has that part been done for you ?

SneekyNinja · Sep 22, 2016

OddBall1st said:
Let`s check that,....

Are you going to vote ? Is the Candidate you vote for the candidate you selected to run for President, or has that part been done for you ?

I voted for her in the primary and I'm gonna vote for her in the general...

Yep, happy with the system.

Rob Roy · Sep 23, 2016

OddBall1st said:
Oh yes, yes I can say that. The laws were set in place to guard and protect against insurgency. Kinda what Trump is suggesting we adhere to in order to quell the current flow of just any ole body that wishes to settle in the new lands. For example, no Kings will claim land and govern it. It allowed the Federalists to deny access or port to ships like Pirates, Royal Navy, and It allowed the Federalist to deny citizenry to those that become or are violent, criminal or any other actions that will warrant deportation. The French were looking to claim territory and these laws allowed the Federalist to have grounds for declaration of war.

In short, for readers like Lou, it allowed the Government to say,..."no, you many not live here"

Actually the land was old. The new part was the people laying claim to it and laying claim to being masters. The same people that had been viewed as insurgents just a few years prior by their former masters.

Irony.

SneekyNinja · Sep 24, 2016

Rob Roy said:
Actually the land was old. The new part was the people laying claim to it and laying claim to being masters. The same people that had been viewed as insurgents just a few years prior by their former masters.

Irony.

How exactly do you produce something you can own personally from stolen land?

So if the British came and took back New York by force, fair game, right?

Rob Roy · Sep 24, 2016

SneekyNinja said:
How exactly do you produce something you can own personally from stolen land?

So if the British came and took back New York by force, fair game, right?

If the wind blows your dirt onto someone else property is it still your dirt ?

Taking things by force is the problem isn't it Mr. Force Worshipper ?

Rob Roy · Sep 24, 2016

SneekyNinja said:
I voted for her in the primary and I'm gonna vote for her in the general...

Yep, happy with the system.

Please remember to stay well hydrated. You will need lots of saliva to lick her voluminous ankles clean.

Drowning-Man · Sep 24, 2016

SneekyNinja · Sep 24, 2016

Rob Roy said:
If the wind blows your dirt onto someone else property is it still your dirt ?

Taking things by force is the problem isn't it Mr. Force Worshipper ?

Rob, you know I don't care about your irrelevant philosophy.

Reality; give it a shot sometime.

Rob Roy · Sep 24, 2016

SneekyNinja said:
Rob, you know I don't care about your irrelevant philosophy.

Reality; give it a shot sometime.

Do you mean your, ahem, "reality" ? The one where actions done by some people which would be wrong if you or I did them are magically not wrong because somebody calling themselves "your leader(s)" does them ?

Seems rather inconsistent and nonsensical. How's that hydration plan coming along ?

Big_Lou · Sep 24, 2016

Drowning-Man said:
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Does desert_dildo know that you are using these pics of him in your post? NOT cool, man....tsk tsk tsk...

Drowning-Man · Sep 24, 2016

Big_Lou said:
Does desert_dildo know that you are using these pics of him in your post? NOT cool, man....tsk tsk tsk...

There's a guy named desert dildo? WTF?

SneekyNinja · Sep 24, 2016

Rob Roy said:
Do you mean your, ahem, "reality" ? The one where actions done by some people which would be wrong if you or I did them are magically not wrong because somebody calling themselves "your leader(s)" does them ?

Seems rather inconsistent and nonsensical. How's that hydration plan coming along ?

No Rob, reality is the world as it actually is, not the Utopian bullshit you believe.

Go outside for once and see for yourself.

Rob Roy · Sep 25, 2016

SneekyNinja said:
No Rob, reality is the world as it actually is, not the Utopian bullshit you believe.

Go outside for once and see for yourself.

Which is exactly my point. I DO view things as they are, it's people like you who shift the meanings of words to accommodate your cognitive dissonance.

Here, let me show you.

Theft = Taking something that doesn't belong to you, without the owners permission.

Yet, you say if the taking is done by SOME people, it then becomes "not theft" and you rename the exact same action as "taxation".

You erroneously believe changing what an action is called can somehow make an immoral action, moral and change what is in reality theft to "not theft".

NYC explosion..

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