Northern Lights X BB auto & Speed Devil auto

Well I watered today with 2 tablespoons of epsom salt and 2 tablespoons of molasses in my 1 gallon jug. I wanted to do the flushing method, but I just didn't have the time today and they still needed to be watered. I'll be discontinuing the use of the fish blend for a week or so and water solely with the 1-3-2(with molasses) every other watering and the epsom salt(with molasses) every other watering(replacing my plain water watering). Hopefully this will fix the issues I have with the mag def on the Northern Lights and the minor mag def with the Blue Mammoth. I only pulled 3 leaves total from both plants, which is an improvement from the 7-10 I was pulling. The pictures yellow leave is from the NL and is the most yellow of the yellow leaves, although I only really have 2 yellow leaves that didn't need to be pulled. The Blue Mammoth isn't really getting any yellowing like the NL.

Bud pics of course. The Blue Mammoth is getting frostier by the day and is beginning to swell up as well. Vertical growth has stopped completely compared to the last 2 weeks. Same deal with the NL although it's much less frosty and it stretched a shit ton more than the BM. I rubbed my fingers on one of the smaller bud leaves and noticed two very distinct smells from the BM and NL. The NL smells like typical high grade weed, while the Blue Mammoth smells almost sweet, while still having that "you know it's weed" smell. Hard to explain and it's still early in the bud development.

At this point I'm looking more forward to the BM than the NL, simply because of how well it took to the abuse, the varying amount of nutes I used and the compact size. It almost never burned or had a deficiency unlike the NL which was very fickle with everything I did. Makes me want to try the Pineapple Chunk or Critical Kush I got more than the Afgan Kush Ryder. That's Barney's over World of Seeds in case you didn't know.

Next watering/update I think I'll add the tbsp of espom salt in addition to the 1/2 tsp of 1-3-2+molasses and then I'll start separating them. I just want to make sure I give it enough. That's all for now, hopefully I'll have a big(positive) change to show you guys in the next few days.

Be careful with adding too much Mag...it locks out other nutes if you use too much and even worse, can burn your roots! It's recommended to use only 1 tablespoon of epsom per gallon of water from what I've heard...also I think that you want to be sure not to use it every watering! And I'm sure you know this, but without the flushing, the inclusion of mag is virtually useless to the plant. The additional N will continue to lock it out until the N abundance is removed.

I have to say that your plants are looking really good though. Are the beans you're thinking bout dropping autos too?

Eh...Afgan Kush Ryder is an auto, but I think I'm going to try the Barney's photoperiods. Going to go 12/12 and Critical Kush/Pineapple Chunk are 25% thc. Good point about the N. I'll do the flushing tomorrow since I'll have the time and it'll be time to water anyway.

Cloudz2600 said:

Eh...Afgan Kush Ryder is an auto, but I think I'm going to try the Barney's photoperiods. Going to go 12/12 and Critical Kush/Pineapple Chunk are 25% thc. Good point about the N. I'll do the flushing tomorrow since I'll have the time and it'll be time to water anyway.

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hell yea nice...would love to see you do some 12/12...25% sounds like it'll knock you on your ass!

Well I just realized that I flushed about 36 hours ago so I may have over watered the plants today. Didn't really bother checking the weight because I figured it would still be pretty moist from the flushing, oh well. I watered with 1 1/2 tsp of epsom salt, 1/2 a tsp of 1-3-2 and 1 tbsp of molasses. I took off the ties to the plants when I flushed because they were getting in the way of my watering. I only had 2 spaces in between the wires to water so it was a real pain. Surprisingly the tops actually stood back up rather quickly. Because of that...a top on the Northern Lights got burned pretty bad. I cut it off as carefully as possible as to not cut any of the "good" bud off.

I haven't had that much experience with a lot of different bud, I usually find a good solid strain that the dealer sells and stick with that. That being said the NL kinda smells like a kush. Kind of funky, but still a bit sweet. The Blue Mammoth must take after its Blueberry parent. It smells sooo good. Very sweet, pungent in that it's obvious it's weed, but very pleasant. Can't wait to smoke itBoth are pretty frost right now. The NL seems a bit larger, but is a tad bit less frosty than the BM.

Now for the bad news. Between the past 2-3 days I've probably pulled off about 15 leaves total. Most were very small and on the very bottom. A few were the larger fan leaves, but that was only off the NL. The Blue Mammoth has been very kind and only drops very very small leaves. I've not had one leaf in the middle or top yellow/die. When I was flushing I noticed *several* small white bugs walking across the rim of the pot on the NL. I'm sure I don't have super vision so I doubt they were the microorganisms. More likely than not they were gnats. Which is understandable. It's been raining the past week or so and I've had my window open almost all day(with the a/c off) so cool/fresh air comes in and weed smell goes out. The latter doesn't really happen lol. I covered the top inch or so with new, dry soil so hopefully that will help a bit. I didn't do that again when I just watered, but I'm going to see if I can wait 3 days for the soil to dry out just a bit more than normal.

Plan on smoking the top I cut off. I doubt it's anywhere near finished, but it should give me a general taste of what's to come. Haven't smoked since May 7th...FML

Oh sorry about all the pictures, I kinda got into it and forgot how many I took. If you notice the numbers actually skip a bit. I took a lot more than I posted

Oh right, next watering will consist of 1/2 a tsp of 1-3-2 and 1/2 a tsp of epsom salt.

Oh yea anyone have any good links on microscopes? It's really my first grow so I don't plan on shelling out big bucks for a electron microscope lol. I figure 30x should be enough right?

Well, I guess I figured out what the plants threshold for fertilizer was or maybe it was all the salt from the epsom like you said Lady. Regardless the plants tips are burned like they were the first time when I added the 20/20/20. Burned on both plants I should add. I checked yesterday for leaves that needed to be pulled off and I only pulled off 3 total so the problem seems to be going away. Maybe two waterings with epsom salt was too much. I guess I'll go ahead and water with just 1/2 a tsp of the 1-3-2 and 1 tsp of molasses instead of the tablespoon every time.

Going to water today so of course I'll take pictures. I have about 3 1/2 weeks till the semester starts. Hairs haven't started receding which is probably the biggest sign that they're getting close to being done so I'm getting anxious about the time. Going to order a microscope next week. Quick browsing on Amazon showed a few for under $10 at 30x power.

Wow 900 pictures taken on my DSLR. Probably 3/4 of those are from this grow lol. Watered today with 1/2 a tsp of the Jack's Blossom Booster(1-3-2) and NO epsom salt and NO molasses(I didn't feel like measuring it, microwaving it and *then* mixing it into the water).

Upon taking the plants out of the bin I noticed the Northern Lights was much lighter than the Blue Mammoth. Whether that's due to the mag def or due to the lack of Nitrogen I've haven't been giving it over the past 3 watering(about a week give or take a day) I don't know. I'll do process of elimination and next watering I'll add 1oz on fish blend and add 1 tsp of molasses. If it doesn't begin to clear up in the 2-3 days before the next one I'll add 1/2 a tsp of fish blend, 1 tsp of molasses and and 1 tsp of epsom salt. I realize I may not see any signs in 2 days, which is why I'm not going to completely stop using the fish blend, but instead reduce the amount and increase the amount of mag.

I also noticed on the stem that got burnt badly that there were a few brown spots on the top leaves. They weren't on the any other leaves on the other stems and they were only on the top 3-4 leaves on that particular stem. Like I said before, most of the fan leaves had slight burning at the tips on both of the plants. The amount of yellowing leaves on the Blue Mammoth have pretty much dropped to none and I only see 1-2 leaves at the bottom that are noticeably lighter than the rest of the leaves on the Northern Lights.

On the bright side, most of the buds have about 50% red/orange hairs on both the plants and seem to be thickening out when I look at the pictures for comparison. Smells are pretty noticeable. I've been using those "trees" that you put in your car to make it smell good. Figured out that each tree will create a noticeable smell if placed in front of the fans for about 2 days. Around the third the weed smell starts to become noticeable again. At the 4th day the tree smell is completely gone. A 6 pack cost about $4.50. So $5 about every 2 weeks will handle the smell issue. I've been using Vanilla and Pine. Vanilla smells better, but Pine is much, much stronger smelling.

I've noticed a few gnats, but temps have been so good during the day that I find it hard not to keep the window open. Ambient temps for the past week have sat around 79-84. I put the thermometer about 6 inches from the exhaust fan though, so the temp may be a bit cooler.

That's all for now

good cheap scope. I have one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-30x-60x-LED-Lighted-Magnifier-Jewelers-Loupe-Loop-Glass-Illuminated-Pocket-/230820700020?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bdfc5f74
I use the 60x most of the time.

$5 with free shipping is an awesome price. Ordered one. Just wondering, but how many weeks do you think I have left? I ofc will check the triches when I get the microscope, but I'm just curious.

Cloudz2600 said:

$5 with free shipping is an awesome price. Ordered one. Just wondering, but how many weeks do you think I have left? I ofc will check the triches when I get the microscope, but I'm just curious.

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I think you have 3-4 weeks, personally. It also depends on what kind of high you want too...if you want a more energetic / head high, you can pull early. But if you want that couch lock stone, you'll have to let your girls marinate a lil longer.

yo cloudz check me out @ day 71 [video=youtube;EDejmeSo6Po]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDejmeSo6Po[/video]

Wow dude nice, what's your setup?

1000w hps air cooled 6" inline fan in a 3 gal smartpot feeding age old organics and a lil cal/mag and a lil silica blast

Watered today with 3 cap fulls(measuring cup was in the dishwasher) of the fish blend and 1 1/2 tsp of molasses. Both plants are pretty frosty at this point with the Blue Mammoth clearly in the lead. The Northern Lights has been having some problems. I've got brown spots on two of the fan leaves of the top that got burnt and directly next to it another fan leaf on another plant has some white stuff on the edge. Won't rub off. (After looking at the pics I took it seems I forgot to take a pic of it )

Ambient temps have been 81-84F while humidity has been 55-59%. I didn't feel like I would get reliable readings if I had the acu-rite in the bottom of the bin and when I tried to tape it too the wall of the bin level with lights it ended up falling. That and in order to get a reading with it attached to the wall would require me to take off the top completely. I've got a desk fan on medium speed blowing air into the usually passive intake and I've got an air cleaner(purifier) sucking that exhaust air in and blowing it upwards. Assuming the temps inside the box are hotter when the ambient temps hit 84F+ I turn off the 2 26w 2700k bulbs I have in the center. When I had the acu-rite in the bin I noticed that it raised the temp by 2 degrees.

Northern Lights still has lighter leaves than than the Blue Mammoth and today I pulled off about 6-7 leaves from the NL. Only about 2 small leaves from the Blue Mammoth(again at the bottom). Took some pics of what the leaves look like from beginning to yellow to the end(or just about). As glad as I am about the Blue Mammoth not giving me as much trouble as the NL is I wish it could of produced more tops.

When I watered I noticed the same little white things start to crawl on the surface again. Pretty sure it's gnat larvae, but at this point I really don't want to do any serious attempts to fix it.

what brand of NL did you buy again?

I wonder why it keeps being finicky on you.

World of Seeds, Northern Lights x Big Bud auto.

I read somewhere that at the end of flowering the plant starts stealing energy from the bottom leaves. that may be why they are dying. And the blue mammoth looks a bit too dark green to me.

Which would be totally normal except I'm losing leaves from the middle of the plant too and all the leaves(top, bottom and middle) are yellowing. That's why the Blue Mammoth losing a few leaves doesn't worry me. But I'm losing about 5-6 leaves every 2 days from the Northern Lights. Yea the BM is a bit too green, I've turned down the amount of N I'm giving it. Although I just realized I used the same water I used on the NL today. Today is the first time in a week I've used any Nitrogen heavy fertilizer. I've been using mag+plain water, or 1-3-2 fertilizer for the past week.

With the problems I've had with two of the NLxBB's and WoS' customer service(or lack of) I'll probably try another breeder from than them. Gonna try Barney's and then the La Diva I got from the 4/20 promo.

sucks that it is bumming you out. hope the harvest brings you cheer!