Northern Grow Lights Photon 180 Citizen 1825 90 CRI
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Aruanda
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This fucking rain and high humidity just doesn't want to stop. About 88% RH outdoors, 70% inside and in the low 70's. Been keeping the AC on to try and suck out some moisture but I end up really cold in my apartment. The plants usually droop a bit at night but this evening they are drooping a bit more (still 2h to lights out). I think I am more stressed about it than maybe they are. Going out to buy a dehumidifier is my next step...
Aruanda
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Okay, update...
Gave a watering this afternoon of 3.5L water, 230mL organic coconut water (a 15:1 ratio) and 1tbsp Stump Tea - myco (pH 6.1). I think I will go into flowering on Sunday to Monday. Will probably prepare a neem/aloe/silica foliar application tomorrow or on Sunday and currently culturing a LAB serum.
Heh, this one looks a bit different from the rest. Really 'chubby' looking leaves, to the point they overlap each other a bit...
Gave a watering this afternoon of 3.5L water, 230mL organic coconut water (a 15:1 ratio) and 1tbsp Stump Tea - myco (pH 6.1). I think I will go into flowering on Sunday to Monday. Will probably prepare a neem/aloe/silica foliar application tomorrow or on Sunday and currently culturing a LAB serum.
Heh, this one looks a bit different from the rest. Really 'chubby' looking leaves, to the point they overlap each other a bit...
Hi man, Im no grow guru, but I dont think you should really be worried about that level of RH until you start getting some bud formation. Try and look into green cure, if you want to prevent mold. (i havent used it, since I live in South America and imports a real mofo bitch, to put it nicely, but Ive read good stuff about it) Thanks for sharing your experiences. Its like being there until you start showing dry buds, then you know you arent!
Aruanda
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Thanks, I think that is what the LAB is good for. Also neem?
I guess so, I dont know LAB, but good to know, youre on top of the situation. I never read it all. Its usually just figths about whos got the best lights and the biggest dick. So I just look at the pictures and enjoy them 
I use neem for prevention until stretch is about to stop, then I let it be, and Im usually fine that way now, still use a lot of air movement though. Even keep tent open, when possible. It just hurts too much to find mold. Happened to me too many times...
I use neem for prevention until stretch is about to stop, then I let it be, and Im usually fine that way now, still use a lot of air movement though. Even keep tent open, when possible. It just hurts too much to find mold. Happened to me too many times...
The Dawg
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Aruanda
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Meh, everyone has their ego. The COB LED and Organics crowd seem cool though. LAB is Lactic Acid Bacteria culture. I've learned a lot over the past few years but this grow has allowed me to start to put some of these things into practice, so I'm learning more deeply the process and doing it at the same time. I'd love to have some land and be farming already, all types of food and medicine, but while I'm still in an apartment, this grow and a raised bed and some potted plants I got will have to do. You can find out more about LAB at www.theunconventionalfarmer.comI guess so, I dont know LAB, but good to know, youre on top of the situation. I never read it all. Its usually just figths about whos got the best lights and the biggest dick. So I just look at the pictures and enjoy them
I got a dehumidifier now and added another small blower fan for below the plants to pass air around their base while another blows air across their tops. Just gotta dial in the dehumidifier settings with all the other factors and hope I can get into the optimal RH%
Aruanda
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Just wanted to post a few from this morning too. Now you can see more of the plants in the 'praying' position that is so oft spoke of when using seed teas (which in this case coconut is the seed, but just the water from it). They aren't all fully at a 45° angle, but they are more 'up' than before. They have kind of folded like tacos but most certainly not due to any type of heat stress...
@benbud89 This would be a great resource for you to use since you said you are in South America (if you aren't already aware). I think for people outside of the tropics they irradiate coconuts coming into the country. Also if it's a bottled product it's either pasteurized or pressure treated and ultimately isn't as fresh.
Also, I've been reviewing the ROLS thread and going over all the different substrates, amendments, supplements, pest control, tea recipes, etc. and writing up a detailed document about each ingredient as it helps in my own study. Hope to contribute it as a PDF when I am done, but some things about coconuts and coconut water that I have come across:
"Coco water has Cytokinins: isopentenyladenine, dihydrozeatin, trans-zeatin, kinetin, ortho-topolin, dihydrozeatin O-glucoside, trans-zeatin O-glucoside, trans-zeatin riboside, kinetin riboside, trans-zeatin riboside-5’-monophosphate
Gibberellins
Enzymes include Amylase, Arylsulphatase, β-glucosidase, Cellulase, Chitinase, dehydrogenase, Phosphatase, Protease, and Urease
Auxin Indole-3-Acetic Acid (IAA)
Elements include Calcium, Iron, Magnesium, Potassium, Phosphorus, Sodium, Zinc, Copper, Manganese, Selenium, Aluminum, Sulfur, Boron
Vitamins include Vitamin C, B1, B2, B3, B5, B6, Folate, Folic Acid, Biotin, Nicotinic Acid
Amino acids include Alanine, β-Alanine, γ-Aminobutyric acid , Arginine, Asparagine and glutamine, Aspartic acid, Asparagine, Cystine, Glutamic acid , Glutamine, Glycine, Homoserine, Histidine, Isoleucine, Leucine, Lysine, Methionine, Ornithine, Phenylalanine, Pipecolic acid,Tyrosine,Tryptophan, Threonine, Valine, Dihydroxyphenylaline, Hydroxyproline, Pipecolic acid
Abscisic acid and Salicylic acid."
And since I mentioned it, Aloe:
"Aloe has amino acids, anthraquinones, ezymes, minerals, vitamins, lignins, monosaccharide, polysaccharides, salicylic acid, saponins, and sterols.
Amino acids found in Aloe vera include: Isoleucine, Leucine, Lysine, Methionine, Phenylalanine, Threonine, Valine,And Tryptophan. Some Of The Other Non-Essential Amino Acids Found In Aloe Vera Include Alanine, Arginine, Asparagine, Cysteine, Glutamic Acid, Glycine, Histidine, Proline, Serine, Tyrosine, Glutamine, And Aspartic Acid.
Enzymes include Amylase, Bradykinase, Catalase, Cellulas, Lipase, Oxidase, Alkaline Phosphatase, Proteolytias, Creatine Phosphokinase and Carboxypeptidase.
Aloe vera also contains Vitamins B1, B2, B3, B5, B6, and B12 along with Choline, Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc, Manganese, Chromium, Selenium, Copper, Iron, Potassium, Phosphorus, And Sodium
Salicylic acid is involved in local and systemic plant defense responses against pathogens. It plays a role during stresses such as drought, chilling, heavy metal toxicity, heat, and osmotic stress.
Aloe suppresses the growth of pathogenic fungi / bacteria. It doesn't kill the beneficial microbes. Think of it like neem in that aspect.
Beneficials in aloe break down within minutes when exposed to air if not processed."
...Don't ask me what all that means in relation to plant health and development as I'm just getting my feet wet...
@benbud89 This would be a great resource for you to use since you said you are in South America (if you aren't already aware). I think for people outside of the tropics they irradiate coconuts coming into the country. Also if it's a bottled product it's either pasteurized or pressure treated and ultimately isn't as fresh.
Also, I've been reviewing the ROLS thread and going over all the different substrates, amendments, supplements, pest control, tea recipes, etc. and writing up a detailed document about each ingredient as it helps in my own study. Hope to contribute it as a PDF when I am done, but some things about coconuts and coconut water that I have come across:
"Coco water has Cytokinins: isopentenyladenine, dihydrozeatin, trans-zeatin, kinetin, ortho-topolin, dihydrozeatin O-glucoside, trans-zeatin O-glucoside, trans-zeatin riboside, kinetin riboside, trans-zeatin riboside-5’-monophosphate
Gibberellins
Enzymes include Amylase, Arylsulphatase, β-glucosidase, Cellulase, Chitinase, dehydrogenase, Phosphatase, Protease, and Urease
Auxin Indole-3-Acetic Acid (IAA)
Elements include Calcium, Iron, Magnesium, Potassium, Phosphorus, Sodium, Zinc, Copper, Manganese, Selenium, Aluminum, Sulfur, Boron
Vitamins include Vitamin C, B1, B2, B3, B5, B6, Folate, Folic Acid, Biotin, Nicotinic Acid
Amino acids include Alanine, β-Alanine, γ-Aminobutyric acid , Arginine, Asparagine and glutamine, Aspartic acid, Asparagine, Cystine, Glutamic acid , Glutamine, Glycine, Homoserine, Histidine, Isoleucine, Leucine, Lysine, Methionine, Ornithine, Phenylalanine, Pipecolic acid,Tyrosine,Tryptophan, Threonine, Valine, Dihydroxyphenylaline, Hydroxyproline, Pipecolic acid
Abscisic acid and Salicylic acid."
And since I mentioned it, Aloe:
"Aloe has amino acids, anthraquinones, ezymes, minerals, vitamins, lignins, monosaccharide, polysaccharides, salicylic acid, saponins, and sterols.
Amino acids found in Aloe vera include: Isoleucine, Leucine, Lysine, Methionine, Phenylalanine, Threonine, Valine,And Tryptophan. Some Of The Other Non-Essential Amino Acids Found In Aloe Vera Include Alanine, Arginine, Asparagine, Cysteine, Glutamic Acid, Glycine, Histidine, Proline, Serine, Tyrosine, Glutamine, And Aspartic Acid.
Enzymes include Amylase, Bradykinase, Catalase, Cellulas, Lipase, Oxidase, Alkaline Phosphatase, Proteolytias, Creatine Phosphokinase and Carboxypeptidase.
Aloe vera also contains Vitamins B1, B2, B3, B5, B6, and B12 along with Choline, Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc, Manganese, Chromium, Selenium, Copper, Iron, Potassium, Phosphorus, And Sodium
Salicylic acid is involved in local and systemic plant defense responses against pathogens. It plays a role during stresses such as drought, chilling, heavy metal toxicity, heat, and osmotic stress.
Aloe suppresses the growth of pathogenic fungi / bacteria. It doesn't kill the beneficial microbes. Think of it like neem in that aspect.
Beneficials in aloe break down within minutes when exposed to air if not processed."
...Don't ask me what all that means in relation to plant health and development as I'm just getting my feet wet...
Evil-Mobo
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I just started have my first run in veg and the plants love the watering with the coconut/aloe.
Good luck
Aruanda
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Thanks bro. Are you posting this grow here? I'm always interested in the organic stuff...
Evil-Mobo
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No bro I'm not. I don't find it worth the hassle anymore and just laying low.
But if I hadn't seen the results I am getting so far first hand I wouldn't believe it lol.....
Aruanda
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I was watering every 3-4 days. I think I may drop down to 2-3 days. Just wasn't trying to over water...
Yes, 3500K
What do you mean by 'tired'?
Aruanda
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Okay, set up 6" trellis net just above tallest plant and reprogrammed timer for 12/12. Tomorrow will mark day 1 of flower (or is it about a week after whenever pistils start appearing?...).
Still working things out but I think I've come to a feeding/supplement regimen that seems decent. I will share it here openly for anyone to critique:
Once a week:
- Feed w/ Stump Tea - Veg boost 10-0-0 (reduced amount going into flowering & not every feeding)
- Feed with BioHeaven, BioGrow and BioBloom (reduced amount of BioGrow going into flowering)
Once every two weeks:
- Feed w/ Stump Tea - Mycorrhizae blend
- Substitute normal weekly feeding w/ AACT (will provide details on ingredients as I go)
Every other watering:
- Use silica (1-2tsp. per gal) or horsetail tea
- Interchange between Aloe vera gel (2tbsp per gal), coconut water (1:15 ratio) and/or sprouted seed tea (1cup per gal). When available use LAB (lactobacillus serum 1:20) with these waterings.
Every third watering:
- Supplement w/ 1-2tbsp H2O2 per gallon (3% solution). Use only in watering w/ H2O.
Foliar applications:
- Neem/aloe/silica (2x a month)
- LAB foliar w/ aloe (2x a month) - basically interchange between these two each week.
Still working things out but I think I've come to a feeding/supplement regimen that seems decent. I will share it here openly for anyone to critique:
Once a week:
- Feed w/ Stump Tea - Veg boost 10-0-0 (reduced amount going into flowering & not every feeding)
- Feed with BioHeaven, BioGrow and BioBloom (reduced amount of BioGrow going into flowering)
Once every two weeks:
- Feed w/ Stump Tea - Mycorrhizae blend
- Substitute normal weekly feeding w/ AACT (will provide details on ingredients as I go)
Every other watering:
- Use silica (1-2tsp. per gal) or horsetail tea
- Interchange between Aloe vera gel (2tbsp per gal), coconut water (1:15 ratio) and/or sprouted seed tea (1cup per gal). When available use LAB (lactobacillus serum 1:20) with these waterings.
Every third watering:
- Supplement w/ 1-2tbsp H2O2 per gallon (3% solution). Use only in watering w/ H2O.
Foliar applications:
- Neem/aloe/silica (2x a month)
- LAB foliar w/ aloe (2x a month) - basically interchange between these two each week.
Aruanda
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I was using double filtered water strictly, but have now switched to half filtered half regular tap and I let it sit for 24h. I don't have a TDS meter yet, ordered one but not here just yet.
The worm compost I included in my mix did have some powdered oyster shells and egg shells added periodically for grit.