Sand4x105
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When I flush, I usually wear a pyramid hat, that helps the turds go down the drain, re-directing the crap through use of the pyramid…Flush this! Copper/Magnetic bracelets are so 90’s…..
No flush - white ash.
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When I flush, I usually wear a pyramid hat, that helps the turds go down the drain, re-directing the crap through use of the pyramid…Flush this! Copper/Magnetic bracelets are so 90’s…..
thenotsoesoteric
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Very mature, your parents would be proud.
stnr420
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thank you. One of the reasons to grow your own. People out their are smoking unflushed herb. Ive been talking to growers all over the country about the RIU non flushers and everybody just shakes their heads in disbelief. "Sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie but id never know cause id never eat the filthy motherfucker"!-Samuel L Jackson, Pulp Fiction. Until a tissue sample is taken from an unflushed bud, analized for pollutants, and comes back negative, Ill continue to flush. How do you account for all the nute companies makin flushing agents? Its not a scam or a fad, its science.
thenotsoesoteric
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Yeah, How do you drown a plant in hydro?
choke it, hold it under water for like 20 mins ...i bet that'll do it
chuck estevez
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they follow the stupid people and cater to there needs. What is a flushing agent? it's a chelator that isn't bonded to anything. so , It's SUPPOSE, key word being suppose, to bond with excess salts and allow them to run out of the medium. Think about that for a minute. Your common sense should tell you they are selling you nothing and making a lot. DUH!!!
Excess salts you say, Don't over feed and you won't have an EXCESS, get it. WHY IS IT ONLY CANNABIS SPECIFIC NUTE COMPANIES MAKE FLUSHING AGENTS???? Again, DUH!!!
Trousers
Well-Known Member
I used to flush.
I also used to wear a diaper because I would shit myself.
I've moved on.
My unflushed coco weed using General Hydroponics nutes was great. It smelled and tasted great and the ash was white.
I do not know where you are getting this black ash, crappy tasting weed.
My guess is that it is pulled off a plant, dried not enough and then put in a bag.
I saw no reason what so ever to flush in hydro.
In hydro the medium is inert. The plant can not live with out nutrients.
When you all of a sudden give a plant zero food, it is stressful to the plant.
Stressed plants will yield less and not be as good.
If you feed properly, flushing hydro is not necessary.
If you over feed and build up salt and crap, then flushing might be a good idea.
Running 10 gallons of water through a 5 gallon pot of soil is insanely dumb. You are washing away all the beneficial microbes and food that has made the plant what it is. That is a one way ticket to Stressville USA.
My garden is usually dry as fuck in September and dead in November.
My tomatoes split open this year when we got 6 inches of rain in a few days.
Flushing fucks my tomatoes up, just like it does to cannabis.
When we grow indoors we are not trying to replicate the outdoors, that would be dumb. We are trying to create a much better environment. Do you want high winds, heat, rain, hail, dust, bugs, mold, pollen, varying humidity etc. indoors?
I am a farmer.
How do you suggest I flush thousands of acres?
You want to compare humans to plants?
Is this the rational behind flushing? Stories?
That is really wrong.
Running 10 gallons of water through 5 gallon pots stresses plants, it does not make them better.
People used to think that illness was caused by elves. Do you think that is true?
Quit plucking that chicken, it is bald.
It worked for me in hydro. It was easy, feed properly and then ramp down the nutes as the plant needs less towards the end.
When I flushed, the plants didn't like it. When I fed properly, I got a better yield and no loss what so ever in quality.
Buds do not store fertilizer, period.
I also used to wear a diaper because I would shit myself.
I've moved on.
My unflushed coco weed using General Hydroponics nutes was great. It smelled and tasted great and the ash was white.
I do not know where you are getting this black ash, crappy tasting weed.
My guess is that it is pulled off a plant, dried not enough and then put in a bag.
I saw no reason what so ever to flush in hydro.
In hydro the medium is inert. The plant can not live with out nutrients.
When you all of a sudden give a plant zero food, it is stressful to the plant.
Stressed plants will yield less and not be as good.
If you feed properly, flushing hydro is not necessary.
If you over feed and build up salt and crap, then flushing might be a good idea.
Running 10 gallons of water through a 5 gallon pot of soil is insanely dumb. You are washing away all the beneficial microbes and food that has made the plant what it is. That is a one way ticket to Stressville USA.
That is not true.
My garden is usually dry as fuck in September and dead in November.
My tomatoes split open this year when we got 6 inches of rain in a few days.
Flushing fucks my tomatoes up, just like it does to cannabis.
That is not true.
When we grow indoors we are not trying to replicate the outdoors, that would be dumb. We are trying to create a much better environment. Do you want high winds, heat, rain, hail, dust, bugs, mold, pollen, varying humidity etc. indoors?
That is not true.
I am a farmer.
How do you suggest I flush thousands of acres?
You want to compare humans to plants?
Stop it, you are making up stories.
Is this the rational behind flushing? Stories?
You are making up stories to back up your unscientific opinion. Stop it.
They say to flush organics.
That is really wrong.
Running 10 gallons of water through 5 gallon pots stresses plants, it does not make them better.
Where is the science?
People used to think that illness was caused by elves. Do you think that is true?
Not where I live.
Quit plucking that chicken, it is bald.
Cavemen didn't flush their weed...
It worked for me in hydro. It was easy, feed properly and then ramp down the nutes as the plant needs less towards the end.
When I flushed, the plants didn't like it. When I fed properly, I got a better yield and no loss what so ever in quality.
Buds do not store fertilizer, period.
Buds do not store fertilizer.
HBE4R20
Member
I'm not a pro grower by any means but I would flush just to be safe depending on how much/often nutes are being used or if organic.
I wouldn't say that George Cervantez and Kyle Kushman are 100% right about everything but have great results doing what they believe is the right way to do it.
With they results they have by doing what they recommend I personally not speaking for everyone would use/trust their techniques but to each his own I rather just be safe then sorry but would like to find out if the flushing thing really is BS.
Would be nice to really know if we can feed our girls all the way till the end of flowering without any reason to worry.
I wouldn't say that George Cervantez and Kyle Kushman are 100% right about everything but have great results doing what they believe is the right way to do it.
With they results they have by doing what they recommend I personally not speaking for everyone would use/trust their techniques but to each his own I rather just be safe then sorry but would like to find out if the flushing thing really is BS.
Would be nice to really know if we can feed our girls all the way till the end of flowering without any reason to worry.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
here's the thing hbear.. if you're growing two plants of the same strain, it's really easy to find out if flushing does anything at all..
flush one, and don't flush a second one, dry and cure both the same methods, smoke, and compare..
HBE4R20
Member
I am not as worried about taste or quality in flushing vs not flushing, I am more worried about health reasons when you don't flush but like I said before it would be nice if someone could disprove 100% that flushing was needed and that unflushed product fed with the nutes till harvest poses no health risk from leftover nutes.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
how could things like calcium or nitrogen or magnesium be any sort of health concern hbear, as we eat these elements on a daily basis.. not trying to be a dick, just trying to understand your concern is all...
HBE4R20
Member
It is understandable I have just started to grow not too long ago and just joined this website recently but read and browsed for many years before and think I have a pretty good understanding of growing when it comes to the basic concepts and was always lead to believe that when you use nutrients that are not organic you should flush before harvest but I could be wrong 
that is just what I have learned/heard from some reliable sources.
that is just what I have learned/heard from some reliable sources.
chuck estevez
Well-Known Member
maybe this will help you better understand
It is understandable I have just started to grow not too long ago and just joined this website recently but read and browsed for many years before and think I have a pretty good understanding of growing when it comes to the basic concepts and was always lead to believe that when you use nutrients that are not organic you should flush before harvest but I could be wrong
Organics use fungus and bacteria to break nutrients into ions for the plants to use
synthetic nutes use chelators to break nutes down into, GUESS WHAT, IONS, the same thing. the plant doesn't know if it gets nitrogen from synthetic or organic. Hope that helps
HBE4R20
Member
but just because the plant doesn't know if it is getting synthetic or organic nutrients I don't think that automatically makes unflushed bud safe I'm not sure, just how I look at it from my stand point.If you or anyone can point me into the right direction if I am wrong please do or further explain.
chuck estevez
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I guess science isn't your gig,lol
PeaceLoveCannabis
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Heres what you do - Mix your soil using locally sourced veganic amendments ( No animal poo. )
Then add 100 % pure water the whole way threw your grow from week 1 - The End. There you go now you flushed your weed, and you will have no toxins or reasons to worry.
OR you can do what your already going to do either way....You'll be fine!
Then add 100 % pure water the whole way threw your grow from week 1 - The End. There you go now you flushed your weed, and you will have no toxins or reasons to worry.
OR you can do what your already going to do either way....You'll be fine!
HBE4R20
Member
Well I am still in my Youth just trying to learn anything factual I can when it comes to cannabis, so pretty much it seems that if I don't overuse nutrients organic or non organic there will be no need to flush correct?
chuck estevez
Well-Known Member
there is hope for you yet
flushing will remove excess salt build up in the soil, But it isn't removing anything from the plant.