New Wisconsin voter ID Law

Glaucoma

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what if they don't have a car or drive, like millions of people who live in urban areas?
Just keep on pretending like they only accept one form of ID at the polls, or that some States are so relaxed that you can simply sign an affidavit saying that you don't have transportation. We won't even get into the shifting trend of voting by mail or religious excuses.

Let's all chant along with Buck for the next 7 hours now and maybe his bogus point will be better understood.. "NO DRIVERS LICENSE MEANS NO VOTE!"

This goes well with your stand on how benevolent the cartels are and that it's just fine for school officials to make political and religious statements. Maybe you should call me a righty again for overwhelmingly voting Democrat. Or draw some penii. Anything but address the actual points made.

Heaven forbid we have some minor security and accountability for our most important right. It's just sooo much trouble for me to show them something with the same mailing address as they have on file, even if it means all I might have to do is write it down and sign it along with a reason why I don't have any other accepted means of proving who I am.

Perhaps it's just your ignorance of how the Federal Government usually goes about investigating and charging people with crimes like fraud? This just in! All they want is a paper trail. Personally, I enjoy how they double dog dare you to use Government services like the US Mail while you commit your fraud.

Anyways,
Keep on doin' The Lords Work like the partisan hack that you are.
 
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UncleBuck

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Just keep on pretending like they only accept one form of ID at the polls
if i grew up and went to college in north carolina, i wouldn't be able to vote. my driver's license, taken at age 16, would bear little if any resemblance to me at age 30. my student ID wouldn't allow me to vote either, disenfranchising tens of thousands of college students (i.e. the difference in a 15,000 vote obama win).

NORTH CAROLINA
Effective Date: Starting in January 2014, poll officials will ask voters for a photo ID (and give notice it will be required in 2016) but no photo ID is required to vote until January 2016.

Acceptable Forms of ID

Every qualified voter shall present photo ID bearing reasonable resemblance to that voter to a local election official before voting. “Photo identification” means any of the following that contains a photograph and that shall have an expiration date and be unexpired, provided that people over 70 may use an expired ID that was unexpired on their 70th birthday. For ID (4) through (6), no expiration date is required if the issuance date is fewer than 8 years before it is presented.

  • North Carolina driver’s license, including learner’s permit or provisional license.
  • Special non-operator’s identification card
  • Passport
  • Military identification card (no requirement that it have a printed expiration or issuance date)
  • Veteran’s identification card (no requirement that it have a printed expiration or issuance date).
  • Tribal enrollment card
  • A driver’s license or nonoperator’s identification card issued by another state if the voter’s voter registration was within 90 days of the election.

Heaven forbid we have some minor security and accountability for our most important right.
we already do, and it is 99.999849% effective.

you simply want to disenfranchise minorities and democrats because you are an idiot with bad ideas that people don't like.

It's just sooo much trouble for me to show them something with the same mailing address as they have on file
not valid in north carolina and other states.

that's why they are called "voter ID" laws and not "anything with your mailing address on them" laws, you dumb shit.
 

Harrekin

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if i grew up and went to college in north carolina, i wouldn't be able to vote. my driver's license, taken at age 16, would bear little if any resemblance to me at age 30. my student ID wouldn't allow me to vote either, disenfranchising tens of thousands of college students (i.e. the difference in a 15,000 vote obama win).

NORTH CAROLINA
Effective Date: Starting in January 2014, poll officials will ask voters for a photo ID (and give notice it will be required in 2016) but no photo ID is required to vote until January 2016.

Acceptable Forms of ID

Every qualified voter shall present photo ID bearing reasonable resemblance to that voter to a local election official before voting. “Photo identification” means any of the following that contains a photograph and that shall have an expiration date and be unexpired, provided that people over 70 may use an expired ID that was unexpired on their 70th birthday. For ID (4) through (6), no expiration date is required if the issuance date is fewer than 8 years before it is presented.

  • North Carolina driver’s license, including learner’s permit or provisional license.
  • Special non-operator’s identification card
  • Passport
  • Military identification card (no requirement that it have a printed expiration or issuance date)
  • Veteran’s identification card (no requirement that it have a printed expiration or issuance date).
  • Tribal enrollment card
  • A driver’s license or nonoperator’s identification card issued by another state if the voter’s voter registration was within 90 days of the election.



we already do, and it is 99.999849% effective.

you simply want to disenfranchise minorities and democrats because you are an idiot with bad ideas that people don't like.



not valid in north carolina and other states.

that's why they are called "voter ID" laws and not "anything with your mailing address on them" laws, you dumb shit.
So Democrats and minorities are too poor/stupid to get an ID?

You keep alluding to this but haven't the balls to actually say it.
 

UncleBuck

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So Democrats and minorities are too poor/stupid to get an ID?

You keep alluding to this but haven't the balls to actually say it.
you keep saying that because it is your belief. i don't say it because it is not mine.

25% of blacks don't have ID. will 100% of those who vote be able to and/or know to get one?

the statistics align with no, invariably.

the tactic is to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands if not millions to "fix" that which is not even broken.

anyone who believes that voter fraud, at 0.0001151% of all votes, is a problem deserves to be ridiculed for the stupid idiot they are.
 

Glaucoma

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if i grew up and went to college in north carolina, i wouldn't be able to vote. my driver's license, taken at age 16, would bear little if any resemblance to me at age 30. my student ID wouldn't allow me to vote either, disenfranchising tens of thousands of college students (i.e. the difference in a 15,000 vote obama win).
oooo, nice try there, Bucko. But in NC for people ages 18-53, your license is good for 8 years. The ID you propose in using is not valid. That being the case, NC will give you FOR FREE, a voter ID card.

No-Fee ID Card Program
After January 1, 2014, you will be able to apply for a free NC identification card to be used for voting. To qualify, you will need to:

  • Prove your age and identity.
  • Prove your NC residency.
  • Be registered to vote in North Carolina.
  • Not have a valid driver license.
http://www.dmv.org/nc-north-carolina/id-cards.php


we already do, and it is 99.999849% effective.
Hmmmn, stats showing how easy it is to get away with fraud within a system will little to no security?

you simply want to disenfranchise minorities and democrats because you are an idiot with bad ideas that people don't like.
You simply want to act like people are helpless babies with no options at all in life.


not valid in north carolina and other states.
You are correct. Every state is different and some are more relaxed than others. I guess they will have to go with another option in NC, like, I dunno.. a free picture ID for voting? Fees are waved for over 70 as well as the blind and other handicaps. Even being homeless waives the fee.

Gee, looks like nothing but roadblocks to me, huh?

that's why they are called "voter ID" laws and not "anything with your mailing address on them" laws, you dumb shit.
Boy, you just hate being proven wrong, huh? You think Voter ID still means DL only? Settle down, princess, mommy should be home soon.
 

UncleBuck

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oooo, nice try there, Bucko. But in NC for people ages 18-53, your license is good for 8 years. The ID you propose in using is not valid. That being the case, NC will give you FOR FREE, a voter ID card.

No-Fee ID Card Program
After January 1, 2014, you will be able to apply for a free NC identification card to be used for voting. To qualify, you will need to:

  • Prove your age and identity.
  • Prove your NC residency.
  • Be registered to vote in North Carolina.
  • Not have a valid driver license.
http://www.dmv.org/nc-north-carolina/id-cards.php
of the two million blacks in NC, 25% of them do not have ID.

of the half a million blacks without ID, approximately 150,000 (conservative estimate) are of voting age and do vote.

of the 150,000 voting blacks in NC without ID, let's say 90% of them go through the hassle of taking a day off work to go to the DMV to get a voter ID.

that leaves 15,000 blacks disenfranchised, the margin by which obama carried the state in 2008.

the GOP has already stated EXPLICITLY that this is not about protecting the vote, but rather about swaying elections.

what's so hard for your dumb ass to believe about this?

Hmmmn, stats showing how easy it is to get away with fraud within a system will little to no security?
that was almost a sentence in english.

our current voting system is 99.9998849% perfect, and does not run the risk of disenfranchising hundreds of thousands if not millions of voters.

You simply want to act like people are helpless babies with no options at all in life.
you simply want to disenfranchise democratic leaning voters.


Boy, you just hate being proven wrong, huh? You think Voter ID still means DL only? Settle down, princess, mommy should be home soon.
show me a state with voter ID that does not require some sort of government issued photo ID, but rather a utility bill or something like that to vote.
 

UncleBuck

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also, tennessee, texas, south carolina, and north dakota, in addition to north carolina, have all effectively disenfranchised college voters from out of state who are living in state.
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
you keep saying that because it is your belief. i don't say it because it is not mine.

25% of blacks don't have ID. will 100% of those who vote be able to and/or know to get one?

the statistics align with no, invariably.

the tactic is to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands if not millions to "fix" that which is not even broken.

anyone who believes that voter fraud, at 0.0001151% of all votes, is a problem deserves to be ridiculed for the stupid idiot they are.
Pray, do tell.

If there's no checks, how can you know it doesn't happen?

Good luck proving a negative, sweetheart.
 

Glaucoma

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I don't believe voter fraud is a rampant problem of any sort. What I support is adding security and generating a minor amount of evidence to support fraudulent claims. It's really that simple.

show me a state with voter ID that does not require some sort of government issued photo ID, but rather a utility bill or something like that to vote.
I'll even give you a whopper of one to start with:

Alaska: An election official may waive the identification requirement if the election official knows the identity of the voter.

Here's another one from Delaware: In the event the voter does not have proof of identity with them, he or she shall sign an affidavit of affirmation that he or she is the person listed on the election district record.

I can go on and on..

You gonna shut that big mouth of yours or do you wanna keep digging yourself some more holes?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
of the two million blacks in NC, 25% of them do not have ID.

of the half a million blacks without ID, approximately 150,000 (conservative estimate) are of voting age and do vote.

of the 150,000 voting blacks in NC without ID, let's say 90% of them go through the hassle of taking a day off work to go to the DMV to get a voter ID.

that leaves 15,000 blacks disenfranchised, the margin by which obama carried the state in 2008.

the GOP has already stated EXPLICITLY that this is not about protecting the vote, but rather about swaying elections.

what's so hard for your dumb ass to believe about this?



that was almost a sentence in english.

our current voting system is 99.9998849% perfect, and does not run the risk of disenfranchising hundreds of thousands if not millions of voters.



you simply want to disenfranchise democratic leaning voters.




show me a state with voter ID that does not require some sort of government issued photo ID, but rather a utility bill or something like that to vote.
Wisconsin you need Id to show who you are. You also need to prove where you live. And if it doesn't match you don't vote.
Kinda screwed if you just moved and didn't update your id
College students are moving in now
 

UncleBuck

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I don't believe voter fraud is a rampant problem of any sort. What I support is adding security and generating a minor amount of evidence to support fraudulent claims. It's really that simple.



I'll even give you a whopper of one to start with:

Alaska: An election official may waive the identification requirement if the election official knows the identity of the voter.

Here's another one from Delaware: In the event the voter does not have proof of identity with them, he or she shall sign an affidavit of affirmation that he or she is the person listed on the election district record.

I can go on and on..

You gonna shut that big mouth of yours or do you wanna keep digging yourself some more holes?
alaska is not even a voter ID state, moron.

http://www.elections.alaska.gov/vi_hv_vote_polls.php

You may also present one of the following forms of identification if it includes your name and current address:

  • current utility bill or pay check;
  • government check or bank statement; or
  • other government issued document.


neither is delaware for that matter.

you must have shit for where your brains should be.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Wisconsin you need Id to show who you are. You also need to prove where you live. And if it doesn't match you don't vote.
Kinda screwed if you just moved and didn't update your id
College students are moving in now
right now my ID does not match my address.
 

Glaucoma

Well-Known Member
alaska is not even a voter ID state, moron.

http://www.elections.alaska.gov/vi_hv_vote_polls.php

You may also present one of the following forms of identification if it includes your name and current address:

  • current utility bill or pay check;
  • government check or bank statement; or
  • other government issued document.

neither is delaware for that matter.

you must have shit for where your brains should be.
So you meant photo ID, not voting ID? I answered according to your question of voter ID. Alaska and Delaware both have laws in effect, §15.15.225 and Tit. 15, §4937 respectively. Hey, have you ever tried to twist a situation in order to call somebody names, you little fuck weasel?

How about IN, TN and AR? All 3 have strict photo ID laws. All 3 allow you to sign an affidavit stating that the voter is indigent or has religious objections. Satisfied?

You done yet?
 

Glaucoma

Well-Known Member
right now my ID does not match my address.
No problem, buddy. Your State says you can also use a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the elector

EDIT: Or, simply renew your address with the DMV online and print your own label showing your new address and attach it to the back of your CO driver’s license or ID card.
http://www.dmv.org/co-colorado/change-address.php

OMG, LIFE IS SOOO HARD
 
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ChesusRice

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No problem, buddy. Your State says you can also use a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the elector

EDIT: Or, simply renew your address with the DMV online and print your own label showing your new address and attach it to the back of your CO driver’s license or ID card.
http://www.dmv.org/co-colorado/change-address.php

OMG, LIFE IS SOOO HARD
Try to stay on topic. This is about wisconsin. Colorado doesn't have a photo ID requirement to vote
 
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