New vert grow, could use some input please

Started 12/12 at 9 PM last night, lights on at 9 PM off at 9 AM, temp are fine now that i got rid of that remote guage and going with two standard themo's. 80 degrees with the lights on and 67'ish with the lights off. I will be turning the AC up during the dark period to around 74 degrees until day 20 of flower then drop the temps again. Should be able to hold temps around 77 during lights off.
They are looking good, will try and get some pics this evening when I return from the city. Headed there to get the parts for my second rez that will house the pump to move material to the upper rez and maintain constant level in that rez, also an air pump to heavily aerate the mixture. I will be adding water/nutes to the lower rez. Still have a minor problem with bio slim on the bottom of the upper rez, hoping that pumping from the lower rez to the upper will help eliminate that. Going to talk to my bestie Hydro guy when I go to his store today, about any product to help control the slim.
I have a question on adding Mycorrhiza to the plants, I have some GH Subculture M and thinking of not putting it into the rez but the next time I remove the plants for work that I drench them with the Subculture, Do you think that is a good idea? With the drench i will be able to check the Blumats to make sure they shut off when the coco is saturated. I will just use pH'ed water with light nutes, half rate and the additives (Cannazym, SM 90, and drip clean). Any thoughts on this?
Later y'all

GR

Did some minor work on the ladies today.
Actually the goal for today was to set up the second rez, what a bumfuck that was. First I cugt the drain hole to big the the bottom of the tote, I had another old one that I kept fishing supplies in so I got it, well being old it was brittle and cracked when I tried installing the fittings. So I went to the hardware store and the only one they had was 14 gallon, which was ok, and I got it all set up, but being larger than the original rez, my stand pipe is too short so I need to get some extension next time I go to the city. Well I did get every thing up and running, 7 gallon secondary rez with pump that is set to come on every hour for 30 minutes then wait an hour then come on again. I also have a air pump with two air stones in the lower rez. I am going to cut the drain from the upper rez shorter to where it is not under water, every 20 seconds or so it burps. Enough noise that I will be able to hear it at night. LOL
Ladies are doing fine, thought I was getting a little leaf tip curl, will check it again tomorrow. There has been no big swing in ppm's or pH. I removed the water/nutes from the upper rez then when I added it back I added three gallons new with it. Then when I filled the lower rez, that was 5 gallons, then I ran the pump for a bit, checked the pH and ppm. The two tanks have a ppm of 545 and the pH is 5.92. I like it!
I had the irrigation off for so long that I had to adjust the Blumats some but all is good now.
They are just happy!

This is the roots growing up toward the drips. I am amazed at the bulk of the root mass, you can feel it, the top of the pots are very firm. Cool Beans!


GR

Looking good

Day 7 of 12/12

These are the ladies taken yesterday 8/15.



BC1 26", CK2 30" , CK1 26", BC2 22", BC3 24", Left to right!

Should I block them up so they are all the same heights? I have the ability to do that!
They are stretching which started at day 5 of 12/12. I am afraid that the shorter plants will not get the light they need. Any thoughts guys?

GR

gr865 said:

Day 7 of 12/12

These are the ladies taken yesterday 8/15.

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BC1 26", CK2 30" , CK1 26", BC2 22", BC3 24", Left to right!

Should I block them up so they are all the same heights? I have the ability to do that!
They are stretching which started at day 5 of 12/12. I am afraid that the shorter plants will not get the light they need. Any thoughts guys?

GR

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g'day GR,
Are u gunna run with 1 or 2 bulbs?
i would block them up if using 1 bare bulb.
Nice design
VG

verticalgrow said:

g'day GR,
Are u gunna run with 1 or 2 bulbs?
i would block them up if using 1 bare bulb.
Nice design
VG

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Running one bulb, thanks for the advice.
And thanks for the compliment, I owe it to you guys here. Lots of reading and lots of good ideas spread around.
Another question for y'all, how heavy should I defollate at day 20 of flower?
GR

gr865 said:

Running one bulb, thanks for the advice.
And thanks for the compliment, I owe it to you guys here. Lots of reading and lots of good ideas spread around.
Another question for y'all, how heavy should I defollate at day 20 of flower?
GR

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Looking good!

I get rid of larf at day 20, leaves stay on.

Ok I had a holy shit moment today.
My timer is set to turn the lights on at 9 PM and off at 9 AM. About 8 this morning I checked the tent, added 2 gallons of water/nutes and tucked some leaves. At around 11 AM I wanted to add a couple of frozen water bottles to the rez and when I opened the tent the light was still on. I checked the timer and it said 5:15 AM, I figured I had turned it when move the blanket I use to cover the entire front of the tent. So I reset the timer and then this afternoon at about 5;30 I went to add a couple more frozen water bottles and while I was there I checked the timer. It had not moved since I reset it this morning. DEAD fucking timer! I have a backup digital timer that I have had for a bit but is a pain in the ass to set. I got it out set it up and I think I am running again. Will check it this evening to make sure I set it right and that it is working.

I never trust timers. I always try to check around "lights on" and off to make sure all is well. I use the cheapo $12 timers, but luckily I'm around most of the time. You've got me thinking about trying a vertical grow in one of my tents. Hubby is going to throw a fit if I tell him I'm going to reconfigure things again! lol I wonder how it would work out in a 5 x 5 tent? Can't wait to see how yours turns out!

cindysid said:

I never trust timers. I always try to check around "lights on" and off to make sure all is well. I use the cheapo $12 timers, but luckily I'm around most of the time. You've got me thinking about trying a vertical grow in one of my tents. Hubby is going to throw a fit if I tell him I'm going to reconfigure things again! lol I wonder how it would work out in a 5 x 5 tent? Can't wait to see how yours turns out!

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All equipment needs to be checked on regularly, just cuz shit happens.

I think vertical would kick ass in there, given the proper light source. What would you use?

ttystikk said:

All equipment needs to be checked on regularly, just cuz shit happens.

I think vertical would kick ass in there, given the proper light source. What would you use?

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I would probably be using what I have right now which is 1000w hps, bare bulb of course. I'm going to have to do a lot of studying before I attempt it.

cindysid said:

I would probably be using what I have right now which is 1000w hps, bare bulb of course. I'm going to have to do a lot of studying before I attempt it.

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Your trellis needs to be 30" from the lamp. The lamp will light what's adjacent to it much better than what's above or below, due to the shape of the filament, so don't try to grow too tall. If considering a lamp change, 2x 600W HPS is a good option.

ttystikk said:

Your trellis needs to be 30" from the lamp. The lamp will light what's adjacent to it much better than what's above or below, due to the shape of the filament, so don't try to grow too tall. If considering a lamp change, 2x 600W HPS is a good option.

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When you say the trellis needs to be 30" from the lamp is that because she wants to use a 1000W HPS?
I am just curious because you have me wondering if my light is too close. I used the back of hand method

GR

gr865 said:

Ok I had a holy shit moment today.
My timer is set to turn the lights on at 9 PM and off at 9 AM. About 8 this morning I checked the tent, added 2 gallons of water/nutes and tucked some leaves. At around 11 AM I wanted to add a couple of frozen water bottles to the rez and when I opened the tent the light was still on. I checked the timer and it said 5:15 AM, I figured I had turned it when move the blanket I use to cover the entire front of the tent. So I reset the timer and then this afternoon at about 5;30 I went to add a couple more frozen water bottles and while I was there I checked the timer. It had not moved since I reset it this morning. DEAD fucking timer! I have a backup digital timer that I have had for a bit but is a pain in the ass to set. I got it out set it up and I think I am running again. Will check it this evening to make sure I set it right and that it is working.

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hey GR, i've run this for about 3 years now. each pole can handle up to 40A of inrush current. tough as nails.

http://www.intermatic.com/en/products/timeswitches/mechanicalswitches/24hour/t100series/t101

gr865 said:

When you say the trellis needs to be 30" from the lamp is that because she wants to use a 1000W HPS?
I am just curious because you have me wondering if my light is too close. I used the back of hand method

GR

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The trellis should be that far away but the buds can grow closer, just keep an eye on them.

rkymtnman said:

hey GR, i've run this for about 3 years now. each pole can handle up to 40A of inrush current. tough as nails.

http://www.intermatic.com/en/products/timeswitches/mechanicalswitches/24hour/t100series/t101

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I have one of those in use here. Works great, but isn't programmable and has no external trigger cord. Trading features for robust operation, that's the basic choice.

verticalgrow said:

g'day GR,
Are u gunna run with 1 or 2 bulbs?
i would block them up if using 1 bare bulb.
Nice design
VG

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Yeah, I figured blocking was the way to go and I love being able to play around in my shop. Had just the right wire for the job.
Got two at 6", and one each at 8" & 10"

rkymtnman said:

hey GR, i've run this for about 3 years now. each pole can handle up to 40A of inrush current. tough as nails.

http://www.intermatic.com/en/products/timeswitches/mechanicalswitches/24hour/t100series/t101

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Hey Rocky,
I do like that, ran the exact same thing for my fertigation system when I was in the golf biz. It was in a pump house always humid as hell and had three 3500 gallon holding tanks and a 1000 gallon mix tank. Very corrosive environment and that thing was still working when I retire and had been for almost 10 years prior to that,
But this is what I have on hand, just never used it because it is a pain in the ass to program. Oh well, today I forced my self to learn how to use it. Think I got it right, but will be checking and double checking for the next week or so.


I had wanted to use this for my transfer pump to the primary rez but I had to switch out the one that was there because it was very inconvenient, kept getting hit by the blanket I have over the front of my tent and pushing the pegs in to keep it running all the time. So here I am and all is good again. Pics of the plants maybe tomorrow. That will be 8 days since flip.

GR

gr865 said:

Yeah, I figured blocking was the way to go and I love being able to play around in my shop. Had just the right wire for the job.
Got two at 6", and one each at 8" & 10"

GR

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g'day GR,
Right on, nice wide support so plants wont fall off them cages.
Handy shop you have there, is it a hardware store?
VG

No I build with different types of wire, build traps and other items.
And yes that was my very first concern so I built them about and inch smaller than the trays, should work well.

GR

Ok took the pics while adding the stands to the tent today.
Looks like it's going to work gr8, had not realized that BC 1 had grown that much overnight.
I am going to have to adjust my chain length as I am getting to the end of my lengths. Might have to cut it.
Here are the ladies at day 8 of 12/12.

GR