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gouhlie · May 20, 2015

do yall think this seedling will make it? 2 14w cfls, 4 23w cfls, temp at 85 f. humidity at 65 percent, its been growing alot over night but this is my first time so i want to do it right.

mr sunshine · May 20, 2015

Clones don't have a higher rate of failure.

I have no idea why anyone would say something like that..

mr sunshine · May 20, 2015

gouhlie said:
do yall think this seedling will make it? 2 14w cfls, 4 23w cfls, temp at 85 f. humidity at 65 percent, its been growing alot over night but this is my first time so i want to do it right.

If you use good soil and at least a 3 gallon pot and some nutrients and ph your water and stay bug free or at least controlled...it should stay alive long enough to harvest something...

Xephier · May 20, 2015

gouhlie said:
do yall think this seedling will make it? 2 14w cfls, 4 23w cfls, temp at 85 f. humidity at 65 percent, its been growing alot over night but this is my first time so i want to do it right.

Looks like your seedlings are leaning, try to get them directly under the light if possible(as they will grow directly towards the light). Also make sure to have a fan lightly blowing on them, a small fan or oscillating fan will work, it helps to strengthen the stems. Don't worry too much about seedlings, those are easy to get going, once they've gotten above the soil the the seed is off them with no fungal growth or anything on them then they're good. The true variables come when you have to start giving them nutes and checking the PH and making sure not to overwater them(just remember that overwatering is easier to do than underwatering, so long as you've got perlite in your soil it'll be easy enough to tell when your plants are dry, just stick a finger in about 1 knuckle deep and if it feels dry then water them until you get about 10-15% runoff then leave them until they're dry again. Nutes are more complex to explain but that's the basics for a seedling.

Xephier · May 20, 2015

mr sunshine said:
Clones don't have a higher rate of failure.View attachment 3423352I have no idea why anyone would say something like that..

Hmm, not sure if I did it right

. I took a clone from the top of my main stem, it's a fair bit thicker than yours.

mr sunshine · May 20, 2015

Xephier said:
Hmm, not sure if I did it right . I took a clone from the top of my main stem, it's a fair bit thicker than yours.

Post a pic.how did you do it? Do you have a tray and humidity dome?

mr sunshine · May 20, 2015

Xephier said:
Looks like your seedlings are leaning, try to get them directly under the light if possible(as they will grow directly towards the light). Also make sure to have a fan lightly blowing on them, a small fan or oscillating fan will work, it helps to strengthen the stems. Don't worry too much about seedlings, those are easy to get going, once they've gotten above the soil the the seed is off them with no fungal growth or anything on them then they're good. The true variables come when you have to start giving them nutes and checking the PH and making sure not to overwater them(just remember that overwatering is easier to do than underwatering, so long as you've got perlite in your soil it'll be easy enough to tell when your plants are dry, just stick a finger in about 1 knuckle deep and if it feels dry then water them until you get about 10-15% runoff then leave them until they're dry again. Nutes are more complex to explain but that's the basics for a seedling.

Smh you should grow a plant before you instruct someone on how to do it...lmao you're a funny guy.

Xephier · May 20, 2015

mr sunshine said:
Smh you should grow a plant before you instruct someone on how to do it...lmao you're a funny guy.

I've gone through the seedling stage, it's simple enough, as I said it's past that stage that things get more complex. I mean even I didn't fuck up on the seedling stage and I fuck everything up. Oh and umm speaking of which, my clone, lol

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Umm, after looking at yours it doesn't look right to me, I went wrong somewhere.

mr sunshine · May 20, 2015

Xephier said:
I've gone through the seedling stage, it's simple enough, as I said it's past that stage that things get more complex. I mean even I didn't fuck up on the seedling stage and I fuck everything up. Oh and umm speaking of which, my clone, lol View attachment 3423416.
Umm, after looking at yours it doesn't look right to me, I went wrong somewhere.

U Cut That Off A Flowering Plant If You Get It To Root And reveg it Would Be Called Monster cropping.

Xephier · May 20, 2015

mr sunshine said:
U Cut That Off A Flowering Plant If You Get It To Root And reveg it Would Be Called Monster cropping.

LOL.. I like the sound of that, is it as good as it sounds?

mr sunshine · May 20, 2015

Xephier said:
LOL.. I like the sound of that, is it as good as it sounds?

It can be.. hopefully it roots for you. Why is it flowering I didn't know you were running the lights at 12/12 already.

Xephier · May 20, 2015

mr sunshine said:
It can be.. hopefully it roots for you. Why is it flowering I didn't know you were running the lights at 12/12 already.

I'm not, that kinda happened at random. It's one of the random "Mix and match" seeds so my friend theorized that it was probably an autoflowering type.

mr sunshine · May 20, 2015

Xephier said:
I'm not, that kinda happened at random. It's one of the random "Mix and match" seeds so my friend theorized that it was probably an autoflowering type.

Well that sucks no reason to clone it if it's an autoflower. u won't be able to reveg it.. kill it, it's a waste of space.

Xephier · May 20, 2015

mr sunshine said:
Well that sucks no reason to clone it if it's an autoflower. u won't be able to reveg it.. kill it, it's a waste of space.

That's a bit harsh. I'm not killing off any plants unless they're male and only males because they can fuck up the rest of my crop. From my understanding of autoflowering they don't produce as well and maybe not as good in quality? But if it produces at all I wouldn't call it a waste. This is just my first batch anyways. Unless you just meant to kill the clone because it won't reveg although I'm curious as to if it would root and what would happen if it did..

mr sunshine · May 20, 2015

Xephier said:
That's a bit harsh. I'm not killing off any plants unless they're male and only males because they can fuck up the rest of my crop. From my understanding of autoflowering they don't produce as well and maybe not as good in quality? But if it produces at all I wouldn't call it a waste. This is just my first batch anyways. Unless you just meant to kill the clone because it won't reveg although I'm curious as to if it would root and what would happen if it did..

Of course I mean kill the clone. It might root if it does it will continue to flower and it will probably be the same size it is now maybe a little bigger... it's a waste, but maybe you should try to root it though. Good practice.

anzohaze · May 22, 2015

Tldr, put some fans on them to strengthen them up

Xephier · May 22, 2015

anzohaze said:
Tldr, put some fans on them to strengthen them up

TLDR comments annoy me. If it's too long for you to comprehend the words then it should be too long to comment on.

anzohaze · May 22, 2015

Xephier said:
TLDR comments annoy me. If it's too long for you to comprehend the words then it should be too long to comment on.

Noi did not read all the post is what I mean. Don't be a dick bro. No need

anzohaze · May 22, 2015

Xephier said:
That's a bit harsh. I'm not killing off any plants unless they're male and only males because they can fuck up the rest of my crop. From my understanding of autoflowering they don't produce as well and maybe not as good in quality? But if it produces at all I wouldn't call it a waste. This is just my first batch anyways. Unless you just meant to kill the clone because it won't reveg although I'm curious as to if it would root and what would happen if it did..

No point in cloning an auto flower as it will flower when the mother flowers bro again no need to be a dick when.people are giving you advise.

Xephier · May 22, 2015

anzohaze said:
No point in cloning an auto flower as it will flower when the mother flowers bro again no need to be a dick when.people are giving you advise.

It was a general comment, often "TLDR" comes off as ignorant and dickish in itself. Like someone goes through the trouble of writing something that often isn't even that long then someone else comes along and gives a "TLDR" pretty much completely demeaning what the person wrote. Also if you were talking to me, I've known about using fans to strengthen the stems from day one. My stems on my first plants are pretty sturdy right now. Also I got the point of not cloning an autoflower plant from mr sunshine but also as he said it's good practice for cloning and that's why I haven't killed it off yet, if I can root the thing then good, it'll be a good sign if I can succeed on my first clone, even if it is useless.

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