New MI grow....cfls

stumpjumper

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Well some pictures would be nice...


CFL's hmm, my advise, 150w per plant using many 23w bulbs kept within 2" and spread out all around the plant. For best results... I used a mix of Soft White and Daylight bulbs at about 3-1 ratio for flowering.
 

stumpjumper

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Ahh I didn't notice the links before..

Well, a scrog is ideal for CFL's. I think you need more bulbs though. I counted 10, so what' s that 230w? for a 2'x4' area.. I would double the amount or not plan on filling the whole screen.

Your poor clones lol... That's all I'm saying.
 

thunderbay

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Ahh I didn't notice the links before..

Well, a scrog is ideal for CFL's. I think you need more bulbs though. I counted 10, so what' s that 230w? for a 2'x4' area.. I would double the amount or not plan on filling the whole screen.


Your poor clones lol... That's all I'm saying.
I had no hope for those clones at first but now maybe. With 12 bulbs going It got up over 100 degrees, 24 bulbs might burn the house down.
 

thunderbay

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Well you need some ventilation man.
agreed, however SEEmorebuds book on cfl says u nrrd as few as 6 cfls and from what I can see he uses 8 only adding bulbs when temp fell.
I plan to install 2 pc fans on top and 1 in the side before I start flowering, hope that works
 

lapperll

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Exhaust fan for sure.

Reflective mylar will brighten it up in there a bunch.

Make a reflector for your cfl's so you direct the light down onto the plants more. Your wasting a lot of light without one.
 

stumpjumper

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8 bulbs would be fine for 1 plant, but not a 2'x4' screen full... Not if you want fat, hard, crystally buds....


But more power to you to prove me wrong!! I've been wrong many times.
 

thunderbay

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8 bulbs would be fine for 1 plant, but not a 2'x4' screen full... Not if you want fat, hard, crystally buds....


But more power to you to prove me wrong!! I've been wrong many times.
not trying anyone wrong I'm trying to learn cause I know I don't know shit about this but to quote Seemore " The larger pot on the left (1) is the Mango seedling. The two plants to the right of the
Mango are clones that are being grown simultaneously under the same CFL's. There
are eight CFL's in this small area. You can grow with as few as one CFL. The fixtures
have all been split (2, 3) so that they can accommodate two bulbs per fixture. Each 42
watt CFL puts out 2700 lumens." btw have you seen what he grew if I could get half that I be in smog heaven.
 

stumpjumper

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I have no idea who seemore is dude. You can grow a marijuana plant with one CFL.. but it's all about the end result..

Again, I would recommend you to use 150w per plant for best results. You can scrape by with 100w though and still do good.

The difference in the amount of lights you use will be the difference between the HID guys saying, yep "CFL's suck balls", or saying "Damn nice grow"

Check out the CFL grow in my sig...
 

thunderbay

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I have no idea who seemore is dude. You can grow a marijuana plant with one CFL.. but it's all about the end result..

Again, I would recommend you to use 150w per plant for best results. You can scrape by with 100w though and still do good.

The difference in the amount of lights you use will be the difference between the HID guys saying, yep "CFL's suck balls", or saying "Damn nice grow"

Check out the CFL grow in my sig...
Loved your cfl grow had to go out and get me a blunt.....hiiiiiiiiiiiigh
 

jamiesname

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Tomorrow I'll be two weeks into a cfl grow from seed. Here's some picks of my box. Light height is adjustible based on how tall the plants are. I plan on scrogging two plants in here. The small fan in the side is an intake, the other is just to move air away from the lights and general circulation.

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It's about 2.63 square feet, and 10 cubic feet. I have a 400cfm Active Air inline fan in the top sucking out the hot air from 12-26w 6500k cfl's (7300 lumens per square foot). It still gets quite hot in there near the top of the plants, and my intake is blowing in cool air from a shaded area outside. The fan is so powerful I had to brace the sides of the box, and the door with wood because the fan was making the box implode. I think you may need more than a couple PC fans.

What I did is use three power strips that have 7 outlets each. Buy 12 outlet to socket adapters and put one in every other outlet on the power strips. I put those plastic safety plugs to keep babies from getting shocked in the outlets which are empty to keep debree from getting in there and starting a fire. Then just hang them over a thin strip of wood. I used a squarish shaped strip of moulding and just run it between the bulbs so that the power strip sits level across it.
 

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thunderbay

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Tomorrow I'll be two weeks into a cfl grow from seed. Here's some picks of my box. Light height is adjustible based on how tall the plants are. I plan on scrogging two plants in here. The small fan in the side is an intake, the other is just to move air away from the lights and general circulation.

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It's about 2.63 square feet, and 10 cubic feet. I have a 400cfm Active Air inline fan in the top sucking out the hot air from 12-26w 6500k cfl's (7300 lumens per square foot). It still gets quite hot in there near the top of the plants, and my intake is blowing in cool air from a shaded area outside. The fan is so powerful I had to brace the sides of the box, and the door with wood because the fan was making the box implode. I think you may need more than a couple PC fans.

What I did is use three power strips that have 7 outlets each. Buy 12 outlet to socket adapters and put one in every other outlet on the power strips. I put those plastic safety plugs to keep babies from getting shocked in the outlets which are empty to keep debree from getting in there and starting a fire. Then just hang them over a thin strip of wood. I used a squarish shaped strip of moulding and just run it between the bulbs so that the power strip sits level across it.
nice......I already have 2 fans inside so gonna use 2 pc fan to suck heat out the top and 1 to bring air in
 

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jamiesname

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nice......I already have 2 fans inside so gonna use 2 pc fan to suck heat out the top and 1 to bring air in

Ahhh, ok. Good looking setup. I'm probably going to copy your design for the screen. What are the dimensions of the holes in yours?
 

r1tony

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I love seeing these cabinet grows (no offense) I mean I have a lot of space, but its cool to see the ingenuity of these guys to grow some herb. I don't think anything else would drive someone to actually thinking, designing and figuring shit out like that to make the best of what you got.

Bravo.
 

stumpjumper

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nice......I already have 2 fans inside so gonna use 2 pc fan to suck heat out the top and 1 to bring air in
What size PC fans are you using? I had a couple on my old gaming pc, I think they were 4" and them suckers really moved some air when the temp got hot and the rpm's maxed out.

You have plenty of light to get started and well into flowering. Your plants will let you know if they want more light. If you can't fit any more in there then maybe you'll have a bunch of really nice buds that are under the light and a few off on the outer edges that aren't as fat but you never know. But if you have some plants on the outer edges bending in for light that will be a good sign to put another bulb over there if you can.

Your clones are looking a lot better then when you first got them! Poor babies... Nurture them and they will be fine.
 

jamiesname

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I love seeing these cabinet grows (no offense) I mean I have a lot of space, but its cool to see the ingenuity of these guys to grow some herb. I don't think anything else would drive someone to actually thinking, designing and figuring shit out like that to make the best of what you got.

Bravo.

Actually I broke down and forked out about $1200 and bought a nice 4 square foot grow tent, 600w HPS digital ballast and HPS/MH bulbs, the 400cfm fan, an air cooled reflector, fan muffler, pH meter, carbon filter, and other odds and ends roughly a week after that box was built lol. I figured I would keep it cheap and easy since this will be my first SCROG, and it's been about 5 years since I grew. While building it I knew that I needed the right equipment though so I figured I could use this box for the first time around since it's already built, but I'm pulling out the big(ger) guns for round 2.
 
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