delilahmaster
Member
How long can you use neem oil into flowering? does it have any effect when it is sprayed onto the forming buds? obviously I wouldnt use it the last week at least but can you use it until then?
Neem oil during flowering
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AlmightyPapaC
Member
Use extreme caution with neem oil.. id only use it as needed, every 14 days.
Unless you have a bad infestation, then every 7 days. REMEMBER! 1 FL OZ PER
GALLON! Mix well while using.
Unless you have a bad infestation, then every 7 days. REMEMBER! 1 FL OZ PER
GALLON! Mix well while using.
smokedup12
Active Member
IMO i can always naste the neem oil if it is ever applied to any buds. asoon as u have some flowers stop using it. Ive also seen neem oil cause bud to burn black(ash)
delilahmaster
Member
How would you suggest controlling spider mites during flowering if neem cannot be applied? i figured they would have poor effects on the buds but i was wondering if anyone had tried it. i just dont want to ruin them or lose them to mites if they come back during flowering
smokedup12
Active Member
Azamax!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
AlmightyPapaC
Member
Or lady bugs. A safer, organic alternative.
weedyGrin
Member
neem oil you should really hold off for the last 3 weeks of flowering and use it sparingly when you do use it. Or don't use it at all.
for spidermites (which are a fucking bitch) make sure you cool that environment down as much as possible. Like 60 degrees if you can at night. That slows the mites way down.
I use yellow sticky traps that you can find here: http://www.alternativeco2.com/Grow-Accessories-s/43.htm
then nail them with some of this spicy, minty stuff that's at home depot and switch that off with some nasty smelling stuff from the grow store.
I can't remember what either is called right now. But a lot of things work. The point is to use several methods so they don't get used to one. Hit them in waves so that you kill the eggs, newly hatched, and any random survivors from each wave.
You have to be thorough. You won't get them all the first time. Don't give up just because some are still around. You have to be persistent.
You'll never get rid of them all for the rest of the grow but you can still salvage it.
Constantly keep an eye on them if you have spidermite problem. If you see one plant heavily infested try to use a little vacuum to suck them off.
If you ever see a shitload of them on some plants move those plants into the shower and just hose those fuckers down so you wash all the mites off of the infected plants. Unless they're not worth saving. But if they already have decent buds and are healthy for the most part you probably want to try and save them.
Constantly clip dead leaves so that you don't give them stuff to feed on or places to hide. Clip the bottom leaves even if they're healthy. These are mite breeding grounds. There should be no bushy little leaves at the bottom of each plant. It won't get you shit for bud and will just provide a breeding environment for mites and other bugs. As well as will take energy away from the plant producing growth where it matters.
Light doesn't hit the bottom of the plant well enough anyway so make sure to trim the bottom of those plants well.
Be looking for speckled leaves as these are places where they are getting crazy even if you think everything is going fine.
Worst comes to worst bomb that room as long as it is less then 6 weeks of flowering.
I hate spider mites. Good luck. But neem oil tastes nasty. I've always used different methods.
People say ladybugs work but I've bought tens of thousands of ladybugs and had them flying around my place all over and I still had bad problems. In my opinion ladybugs don't work much at all and get to be a pain because now you have more bugs flying all over your house. Then they fly up to the lights and die and you have all these dead ladybugs to deal with.
for spidermites (which are a fucking bitch) make sure you cool that environment down as much as possible. Like 60 degrees if you can at night. That slows the mites way down.
I use yellow sticky traps that you can find here: http://www.alternativeco2.com/Grow-Accessories-s/43.htm
then nail them with some of this spicy, minty stuff that's at home depot and switch that off with some nasty smelling stuff from the grow store.
I can't remember what either is called right now. But a lot of things work. The point is to use several methods so they don't get used to one. Hit them in waves so that you kill the eggs, newly hatched, and any random survivors from each wave.
You have to be thorough. You won't get them all the first time. Don't give up just because some are still around. You have to be persistent.
You'll never get rid of them all for the rest of the grow but you can still salvage it.
Constantly keep an eye on them if you have spidermite problem. If you see one plant heavily infested try to use a little vacuum to suck them off.
If you ever see a shitload of them on some plants move those plants into the shower and just hose those fuckers down so you wash all the mites off of the infected plants. Unless they're not worth saving. But if they already have decent buds and are healthy for the most part you probably want to try and save them.
Constantly clip dead leaves so that you don't give them stuff to feed on or places to hide. Clip the bottom leaves even if they're healthy. These are mite breeding grounds. There should be no bushy little leaves at the bottom of each plant. It won't get you shit for bud and will just provide a breeding environment for mites and other bugs. As well as will take energy away from the plant producing growth where it matters.
Light doesn't hit the bottom of the plant well enough anyway so make sure to trim the bottom of those plants well.
Be looking for speckled leaves as these are places where they are getting crazy even if you think everything is going fine.
Worst comes to worst bomb that room as long as it is less then 6 weeks of flowering.
I hate spider mites. Good luck. But neem oil tastes nasty. I've always used different methods.
People say ladybugs work but I've bought tens of thousands of ladybugs and had them flying around my place all over and I still had bad problems. In my opinion ladybugs don't work much at all and get to be a pain because now you have more bugs flying all over your house. Then they fly up to the lights and die and you have all these dead ladybugs to deal with.
AlmightyPapaC
Member
Dr. Doom almost hit a knock out... I agree not to use anything but water for the last 2 weeks, BUT!
I would follow the directions and use every 2 weeks AS NEEDED! Neem oil, though organic, still shocks
your plants, I know this from experience...
delilahmaster
Member
I definitely have seen a reduction from the first spray. but I removed all the eggs I could find and I am not seeing any new ones pop up. There does still seem to be some new leaf damage though. I am hoping the are slowly dying out. I still have two days left until I can spray again. They said at the store it would take at least two sprays so hopefully after this one it gets them. I am going to keep using it until buds start to form though just in case
Jimmyjonestoo
Well-Known Member
I like the pepper spray method over neem oil that stuff is nasty. But as previously said its a good idea to switch tactics so they don't get used to any one method. Best of luck I fucking hate spider mites.
xtsho
Well-Known Member
Preventative measures are better than trying to eradicate an infestation. I spray neem once a week in veg whether I see mites or not. I stop as soon as I move them into my flowering tent. I haven't had any mites in years. Before I started doing this it seemed like they would show up five or six weeks into flower.
I wouldn't spray neem during flower. It's an oil and I don't see how it wouldn't effect taste if it was sprayed on the flowers. I also refuse to spray any commercial product on my plants during flower. I don't care what the directions on the labels say or who says it's okay to use it. They don't always list all the ingredients so you don't know everything that's in it. You can use citric acid or phosphoric acid to lower the PH of a spray bottle full of water to a PH of 3 or 4. The high acidity should take care of them but depending on what stage of flower you're in you run the chance of bud rot when you get the buds wet so a dehumidifier is a good idea.
My tried and true method is just manual removal which can be time consuming but is effective at keeping them under control without the use of chemicals. Vacuuming them off was my go to method if I had an outbreak when the plants were flowering.
If I ever did decide to use a commercial product during flower the only one I would use would be Flying Skull Nuke Em because they list everything on the label.
http://www.flyingskull.net/Flying-Skull-Nuke-Em-New-Formula-8-oz.html
Active Ingredients By Weight
Citric Acid 0.05%
Inert Ingredients
Water, Yeast (Enzymes), Potassium Salts of Fatty Acids,
Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate
Total: 100.00%
As you can see the active ingredient is citric acid and none of the inert ingredients are of any real concern. However, Sodium Benzoate and Citric Acid can combine to form Benzine so that is something to think about.
Good luck
I wouldn't spray neem during flower. It's an oil and I don't see how it wouldn't effect taste if it was sprayed on the flowers. I also refuse to spray any commercial product on my plants during flower. I don't care what the directions on the labels say or who says it's okay to use it. They don't always list all the ingredients so you don't know everything that's in it. You can use citric acid or phosphoric acid to lower the PH of a spray bottle full of water to a PH of 3 or 4. The high acidity should take care of them but depending on what stage of flower you're in you run the chance of bud rot when you get the buds wet so a dehumidifier is a good idea.
My tried and true method is just manual removal which can be time consuming but is effective at keeping them under control without the use of chemicals. Vacuuming them off was my go to method if I had an outbreak when the plants were flowering.
If I ever did decide to use a commercial product during flower the only one I would use would be Flying Skull Nuke Em because they list everything on the label.
http://www.flyingskull.net/Flying-Skull-Nuke-Em-New-Formula-8-oz.html
Active Ingredients By Weight
Citric Acid 0.05%
Inert Ingredients
Water, Yeast (Enzymes), Potassium Salts of Fatty Acids,
Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate
Total: 100.00%
As you can see the active ingredient is citric acid and none of the inert ingredients are of any real concern. However, Sodium Benzoate and Citric Acid can combine to form Benzine so that is something to think about.
Good luck
Dr. Who
Well-Known Member
The mites in this thread.
Died 5 years ago!
No one in this thread, even comes around anymore.
Dr.greenthumb organics
Member
What can i spray on my plants that are in week 3 or can i buy the bomb from hydro store and just nuke the whole tent with plants in there buds are less than a inch tall
Elsembrador
Well-Known Member
I would not reccomend this at all tbh u Caught this problem way too late. The lady bug suggestion is a great idea or even dropping the temp in ur room but warning u use any sort of natural or synthetic pesticide with buds already showing is a no go imo
GreenHighlander
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shushubandora
Well-Known Member
neem oil taste strong and bitter, and its sticky oil so its last.
did it once on flower, taste crap. i prefer the taste of mites
you can reduce temp to min possible and wash leafs with water spray as much as you can. spray strong on bottom of leafs and try to wash those eggs.
before next run spray the walls with vineger (not on the plants, it will kill them)
cleaning the soil is the hard part.
did it once on flower, taste crap. i prefer the taste of mites
you can reduce temp to min possible and wash leafs with water spray as much as you can. spray strong on bottom of leafs and try to wash those eggs.
before next run spray the walls with vineger (not on the plants, it will kill them)
cleaning the soil is the hard part.
whitebb2727
Well-Known Member
No. No. No.
Never use neem oil in flower. It will ruin buds. I did one time and ended up throwing the plant away. Neem taste aweful when it's burnt.
Get some captian Jack's spinosad. Safe to use up til late flower. It's made from a bacteria harmless to humans. I use it on cannabis as well as my vegetables.
