Need Help !Used vinegar to.......

Plants are 4 weeks old in roots organics soil .I had been having problems with gnats and was worried about the ph of my tap water its 7.8 but i,m doing organic and most ppl say ph doesn't matter with organics but thats kinda high is'nt it? So I used white vinegar to ph down and i watered and feed 1/4 strength age old liquid grow .1 day had passed they was fine. Well i noticed that the gnats are attracted to the vinegar , so i filled the bottom of a 4 in drip pan with vine gar and left it in there all night .Went out in the garage and man it stunk of vinegar , opened the door to my room and FUCK not every plant but alot of them the large fan leaves are lifted upwards and cupped up they feel wilted . So I,m guessing the fumes from the vinegar is what did it . Has anyone experianced this ? Will the the leaves recover now that the vinegar is gone .? This sucks everything was going perfect I can take some pics and get them up soon just wanted to get this thread started asap first.

Get some pictures. I'm with organics too and my pH was kinda high also (7,5 sometimes more) but it wasn't a big deal. Now in flowering, the nutes are more acidic so it is correcting. If you want to lower it, next time use lemon juice. Remind not to drop it very suddenly, only a bit at a time. I squeeze one lemon into a 5L container and it works. About the vinegar, I guess they will recover but it will depend on the extent of the damage so... pics would help Cheers!

try lemon juice to ph down instead of vinegar ...

I,m going to take pics now . But keep in mind in diagnosing this its not the fact that I used vinegar to ph down , its that I left the pan of it in my room to trap gnats. I think that the light evaporated the vinegar slowly and these fumes affected the leaves . Have you guys checked to see if lemon juice keeps the ph down or does it rise up eventually . Mabey my water is buffered I dont know .

Here's the pics .

It will lower it slowly, as I mentioned. If your water or your nutes tend to be alkaline, it will be hard to lower it with lemon juice but it will at least prevent it from rising even more. That's more or less what happened to me. pH was getting higher (near and it lowered it to a maximum of 7,5. Still, as I said, didn't notice much of difference. They are looking good so I relaxed on that.

I understood what happened to you but you won't have much to do apart from venting the place to remove the fumes and wait to see. I wouldn't worry much about that if I were you. But hey, I haven't seen the plants so it's hard to tell. When you post the pics it surely be easier to help you.

The first pic that plant was unaffected sitting right next to one that was .

Dude, those plants are looking good! When my plants are upwards like that, I water them and they come back to "normal" (in fact, I like to see them like that).
Relax, some a joint and let them do their thing!
Good luck!

Well thanks man I,m just freaking out .This is my 2nd grow and it was going perfectly I wanted to get to flowering without ANY foilage damage but like you said I have to just wait it out and see what happens .I really don't want to water because i just waterd a day and a half ago but will if thats what it takes .

Not to mention been reading up on vinegar while i wait and found that ppl use as a organic fucking weed killer and its highly reactive to sunlight . I,m sure it was the fumes hoping to hear from someone who mabey did the same stupid thing .

Anyone else encounter this?

Didn't say you need to water them, only if don't wanna see them in that upwards position. As I said, I like to see them like that, they look "happy" that way. But, if you want them more droopy, water them

Right gotcha although when plants are happy and relaxed they are not cupped , cupped leaves are an indicator of a problem I do not like to see them do this .

Anyways not the problem , problem is not knowing what effect vinegar fumes have on a plant as I decribed above . Thank you for your insight.

bro i would just flush them asap...to be honest, my buddys wife got pissed at him keeping one of his kick ass plants on there up stairs porch rather then in his grow room. which is under is stairs...before he showed me the room i didnt even know there was a fucking door there let alone a huge room...but what im getting it is that his wife got so mad she killed his plant with vinegar...i dont know how much though...i would imagine she just fucking poored the shit on there, but it killed it. FAST...best of luck brother..i would flush and not worry about it, after all it was the fumes that did the damage, im sure you will be fine

It should not cause a major issue unless totally undiluted which could bleach it.

I suspect that the yellowing is from the high PH alone. Even in organics the ph should really be around 6.5-6.8, certainly not over 7.0. A quality soil, specifically for cannabis will help stabilise p.h.

A bottle of ph down is much more user friendly and as cheap as chips.

If your having bug issues you should let some lady bugs into your garden they work wonders.

Okay here's the kicker . I've spent all morning researching vinegars effect on plants .

#1 It does kill plants not all at full strength applied directly to folage.
#2 It has no adverse effects when applied to the soil ,(it reacts with light when on foilage is what kills plants)
It's even suggested as a fertilizer because of trace minerals it contains.
#3 This one is my concern . I cannot find ANYTHING on the effects of the vapor from vinegar effect on plants.

Plants "breath " through the leaves . So if the canopy is filled with vinegar vapor ,hot vapor at that because my light actually evaporated most of it , how do the leaves react when "breathing" in this vapor?????

Hope that clarifies my concerns . And yeah I know remove the vinegar ,air them out and get over it right? Well I,d like to know the science behind this I,m sure others have discovered fungus gnats are attracted to vinegar and done the same thing I did .Mine being asmall air space and a 4 in pan of vinegar. I think others should be wary of this and understand why it happens there is something to be learned from mistakes like this and should be passed on.

3lions said:

It should not cause a major issue unless totally undiluted which could bleach it.

I suspect that the yellowing is from the high PH alone. Even in organics the ph should really be around 6.5-6.8, certainly not over 7.0. A quality soil, specifically for cannabis will help stabilise p.h.

A bottle of ph down is much more user friendly and as cheap as chips.

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They was transplanted a week ago , soil has had dolomite lime in it all the way 1tbsp/g soil . I understand what your saying about the yellowing though but its always on new growth then they darken as the leave fully forms . Is that right? Or your saying high ph water is causing new growth to look that way? IN person its not yellow its a light lime green actually , looks yellow in pics.

jas6118 said:

If your having bug issues you should let some lady bugs into your garden they work wonders.

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They was a total fail in my experiance . Some stay and eat most fly away or for the light, some die and none have ever totally took care of any bug problem I have had .Bugs are under control hell after the vinegar fume bath I can't even find any now so that worked but at a consequence .

sure, actually i suspected phosporous which doesnt really yellow, just pales right towards the end. Tricky tho. Maybe some of these pics may narrow it down.

High ph I will say will most likely cause a a range of issues that quite frankly can have you chasing your tail

kingofqueen said:

They was a total fail in my experiance . Some stay and eat most fly away or for the light, some die and none have ever totally took care of any bug problem I have had .Bugs are under control hell after the vinegar fume bath I can't even find any now so that worked but at a consequence .

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lol oh the fun of learning