NASA iS GOING TO BOMB THE MOON THIS FRIDAY

svchop889

svchop889

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so if its already been established that there is water on the moon WHY THE FUCK ARE WE BOMBING IT?
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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svchop889 said:
so if its already been established that there is water on the moon WHY THE FUCK ARE WE BOMBING IT?
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I provided you with a link to the information, but apparently clicking a link and educating yourself was much tougher than repeating the same questions.

So here it is pasted directly from the link:



NASA has chosen the final destination for the LCROSS lunar impacting probe: the crater Cabeus A, near the Moon’s south pole.
So why is NASA smacking a probe into the Moon at high speed, and why there?
The idea is that over millions and billions of years, a lot of comets have hit the Moon. The water from these comets hits the surface and sublimates away… but if any settles at the bottoms of deep craters near the Moon’s poles, these permanently shadowed regions can act as a refrigerator, keeping the water from disappearing. It can stay there, locked up as ice, for a long, long time. Some estimates indicate there could be billions of tons of ice near the Moon’s south pole.
Detecting that water is tough. Radar results have been inconclusive, with some people saying there’s lots of water, and others saying there’s none at all. By impacting a probe there, any ice located at the impact site will be shot up above the lunar surface, where sunlight will break it up into H+ and OH- molecules, which can be detected. Thus, LCROSS. I have a more detailed description of all this in an earlier blog post about LCROSS.
The choice of Cabeus A for the impact site is a good one. It’s near the south pole, it’s a likely spot for there to be ice under the surface, it’s on the near side of the Moon, so people back here on Earth can observe it, but close enough to the limb that any ejected water can be seen. Here’s a map of the area:
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It's not enough to just know that there is a little bit of ice on the moon. If we're going to be putting a mining operation up there, it needs to have enough water available to it to be sustainable. Water is heavy, and the cost of getting objects into space runs into the thousands of dollars per pound.
 
morgentaler

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CrackerJax said:
theories must be tested.... else we all turn into religious nutcakes....
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They used to test theories in the old days too.

Trial by water.
Trial by fire.
Trial by ordeal.

Funny though. They can kill the scientist, but they can't kill his ideas.
 
svchop889

svchop889

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oh and were going to put a mining operation up there for what purpose huh? to get water to create rocket fuel from liquid o2 right? ok vailid point it would be cheaper to have a refueling station on the moon than haulling all that fuel up there to make the return trip and extend our range into outer space ok i get that but why do we really need that?
 
CrackerJax

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The church had the nasty habit of inviting scientists to the Vatican to "discuss" their ideas. They would even send an escort to make sure you arrived safely and unharmed.

Truly the work of a divine savior.
 
morgentaler

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svchop889 said:
oh and were going to put a mining operation up there for what purpose huh? to get water to create rocket fuel from liquid o2 right? ok vailid point it would be cheaper to have a refueling station on the moon than haulling all that fuel up there to make the return trip and extend our range into outer space ok i get that but why do we really need that?
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There have been at least 3 major extinctions on the planet. If you want to think in the long term, off-world colonization is necessary to continuation of the species.

But even without considering extinction events, we are burning through resources like never before. If we don't begin collecting resources from off-world we are going to run out of them.

Some of the large asteroids out there have enough nickel, iron, and other metals in them to support industry for years.
 
The Warlord

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I hope they don't find my secret moon lair base while they are up there. I'd be forced to point my destructo ray at the earth then and blow it the hell up.......wait, aw hell i've said too much........ now i need to post a poll or something. Should i destroy the earth with my moon based destructo ray? hmmmmmm.........
 
svchop889

svchop889

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morgentaler said:
There have been at least 3 major extinctions on the planet. If you want to think in the long term, off-world colonization is necessary to continuation of the species.

But even without considering extinction events, we are burning through resources like never before. If we don't begin collecting resources from off-world we are going to run out of them.

Some of the large asteroids out there have enough nickel, iron, and other metals in them to support industry for years.
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fact is extinctions are NATURAL do you think the dinasours should still be here? everything has its time and place its all in the natural order of things ever heard of natural selection? do you think its a possibility that we might be burning up our resources trying to find resources that are not there or not worth the cost when instead we should be finding ways to renew ours that are on this planet already matter is not created or destroyed everything we have used is still here just in different forms and should be recycled instead of wasted and spent trying to find more resources to waste spend and lose.
 
svchop889

svchop889

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mexiblunt said:
He even has a gun to shoot the moon monsters.
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ok man i also think this whole idea is a joke and its great you can have a laugh but some of us are actually debating points and views, or is this just comic relief? either way i could care less.
 
svchop889

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Oskilatah said:
imagine living in a world with no bud...

the moon....?
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that would suck but i think you would be able to grow plants to be able to live somewhere so there would be bud unless there wasnt enough nitogen to support plant lif on the moon. is there any on the moon? even on gass form?
 
shnkrmn

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svchop889 said:
ok man i also think this whole idea is a joke and its great you can have a laugh but some of us are actually debating points and views, or is this just comic relief? either way i could care less.
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If that's a poll, I vote comic relief. If we had it your way, we would still be killing wooly mammoths with stone spears. Gimme the ray gun!



 
morgentaler

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svchop889 said:
fact is extinctions are NATURAL do you think the dinasours should still be here? everything has its time and place its all in the natural order of things ever heard of natural selection?
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Have you ever taken antibiotics for an infection? So much for 'time and place' in the natural order of things.

And yes, I have heard about natural selection. It's what gave us the capability to adapt to our environment. And that adaptation has given us the capability to use technology. Would you rather go back to wandering about the desert hoping God drops some manna down so you don't starve to death?

do you think its a possibility that we might be burning up our resources trying to find resources that are not there or not worth the cost when instead we should be finding ways to renew ours that are on this planet already matter is not created or destroyed everything we have used is still here just in different forms and should be recycled instead of wasted and spent trying to find more resources to waste spend and lose.
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They already know the asteroid belts have many of the resources we need to move off-planet. Locating substantial water supplies on the Moon and Mars is next.

Renewable resources can only go so far when the population is climbing at the rate it is. Unfortunately the uneducated and the religiously mandated continue to have large families. This is putting extreme pressure on the resources available, renewable or not.

If our ancestors had the attitude you are presenting here, the conversation would have been along the lines of "Why should we move to a better hunting ground? I like this dark wet cave and having to scrounge for ground squirrels."
 
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