"Name That Nutrient Imbalance"

Brother Sweetleaf

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...Or whatever this issue may be. (Thanks for playing! :wink:)

Rella 99, Silver-Gold Flake, Aug 20, 4.jpg

Rella 99, Silver-Gold Flake, Aug 20, 3.jpg

A few days ago I fed her some aerated Boogie Brew compost tea, activated with blackstrap molasses, with some eggshell & banana-peel. The next watering-day she drank only aerated pHed water. Then, a day or so later-- just Monday night-- I fed the normal regimen of Fox Farm Big Bloom & Tiger Bloom, but used only about 1/8-dose of Grow Big because my plant is both flowering rather late and is bezerk already in abundant, tightly-clustered leaves & veg-growth.

Bringing trace amounts of other vital nutrients into my 3-galon mix, I added about 1/2 tbsp of Neptune's Harvest seaweed fertilizer & 1/8 tbsp of Neptune's Harvest fish-fertilizer.

And then Tuesday morning the plant had all these platinum warm-silvery white specs all over it. I gave her a water flush in the early evening, while the sun was almost setting.

Thoughts? Feelings? Experiences? Advice? Thanks!
 

a mongo frog

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...Or whatever this issue may be. (Thanks for playing! :wink:)

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A few days ago I fed her some aerated Boogie Brew compost tea, activated with blackstrap molasses, with some eggshell & banana-peel. The next watering-day she drank only aerated pHed water. Then, a day or so later-- just Monday night-- I fed the normal regimen of Fox Farm Big Bloom & Tiger Bloom, but used only about 1/8-dose of Grow Big because my plant is both flowering rather late and is bezerk already in leaves & veg-growth.

Bringing trace amounts of other vital nutrients into my 3-galon mix, I added about 1/2 tbsp of Neptune's Harvest seaweed fertilizer & 1/8 tbsp of Neptune's Harvest fish-fertilizer.

And then Tuesday morning the plant had all these platinum warm-silvery white specs all over it. I gave her a water flush in the early evening, while the sun was almost setting.

Thoughts? Feelings? Experiences? Advice? Thanks!
Spider mites super bad. Don't go near your plants after you go to a grow store. Change and shower immediately.
 

Brother Sweetleaf

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Thanks for the advice, a Mongo Frog! It's surrounded in insect-netting, and about 10 days ago I let 250 Ladybugs loose inside as a precaution (it had no insect problem when I did), and it still has a dozen or 2 Ladybugs roaming around on her, inside the tent. Might it be something else?
 

Brother Sweetleaf

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Ladybugs suck for mites, and no it's definitely spider mites. if light can get through your netting, so can they. Start spraying immediately or it's gonna be covered in webs.
Damn that's a lot of mite bites. Spray 2x a week with cold pressed neem oil a.s.a.p.
Spidermites can go through fine-ass insect-netting?? Well, apparently so. :roll:
Thanks for the tips... I'm getting on it. I didn't know about the "cold-pressed" thing, so thanks for the specifics!

I'm curious also about this Calicleaner Habernero Spray stuff, that sounds awesome & is the topic of discussion in THIS thread.
 

FresnoFarmer

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Bro, hit them shits with Captain Jacks Deadbug Brew(spinosad) you can get it at HD or Lowes. 3 applications 3 days apart should kill them. Also green lacewings larvae will fuck up some spider mites. You can find eggs or larvae online or at a local nursery maybe. Good luck. Handle that shit ASAP though. Even when they look like they are gone I would still spray every 3-5 days.
 

Brother Sweetleaf

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Thanks to everyone for sharing their insights here on this thread. I've been mostly off the site for a while & unable to respond.

My local grow-shop guy spoke with me about a product of concentrated cold-pressed Neem-seed oil, called Azamax. I read-up on it, and it's an insanely unnatural amount of highly active ingredients derived from Nature that kills the spider-mite, as well as a whole bunch of other bugs, and messes them up pretty badly on a multitude of levels, in a plethora of different ways, regardless of the life-cycle of the bug. As is mentioned above, following directions and respraying a week after the first treatment (maybe earlier, depending on the product used) helps ensure that the new mites hatched from eggs (or Conan the Bugbarian) doesn't appear a week after treatment and begin a new colony. The stuff worked fantastic. I even went a bit crazy and propped my plant upside-down to be sure all the undersides of the leaves (where the spidermites love to dwell) were fully sprayed.

Also, FYI-- although it did nothing to repel the dreaded spidermite, do know that insect-netting has been a tremendous ally at keeping the bug-population low.

(I literally took this picture with you guys in mind-- & the community here at Roll It Up. It can be pretty bad when your plants have a problem, but it feels really damn good to listen to the opinions & offerings that others share, then discern what sounds best for you, get the help you need from the community, and put it that into action to achieve success at saving your crop... Yup, feels really damn good. Thanks!)
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Brother Sweetleaf

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How have your plants been sweetleaf!?
(This posting here is re-posted as a new thread HERE, beginning a new discussion, since this never actually was about Nutrient Imbalance, as is mistakenly suggested in the title of this current thread. Please consider responding in the new thread.)

Thank you for asking... I've wanted to get to a stage where I can report here what's been happening with my Cindarella99, but I'm not yet at a stable stage to do so...

Until further details, let's just leave it at this: All was going surprisingly awesome, and then things happened beyond my control that I believe brought mold or something like it, although to be honest I'm not 100% sure... See...

I let my plants get thirsty before striking them for harvest. It decreases drying-time a bit, and who knows-- maybe the plant's thirst for a drink during it's final couple of days could have a similar effect as the constant darkness during a plant's final couple days, forcing it to increase resin-production a bit in desperation. At the very least, it seems to make drying a bit quicker. Anyways, I had a bit of Perfect Storm here, where the de-humidifyer and oscillating fan lost power-- unbeknownst to me-- and a couple days passed before I got inside the outdoor "tent" to discover it.

There are other elements to the story that make it quite interesting... For example, I experimented (again this year) by implementing my idea to wrap the small, outdoor, PVC-house with a roll of 20" plastic shrinkwrap, creating an even better barrier against the "outside" air, improving upon an idea I tried on last year's harvest. With pouches of desiccant, a reasonably powerful dehumidifier, an oscillating fan and a small Vornado, I was pretty confident this might actually work!

Well, the bottom line is this: My plant pretty much just about died on her own of thirst. The buds are still living-like, but every remaining leaf that I had not defoliated last week shriveled & turned fully-brown, past yellow. And about 1/3 to a 1/2 of the trichomes have gone from clear & milky white to a gorgeous amber. She looks spectacular... Or she looks screwed-up... I'm not really sure which.

I'm familiar with budrot, & this is not that. It doesn't necessarily look like mold, but it appears so BROWN. But then, when peeled back & defoliated further-- and (strangely) under a microscope-- the green really comes out-- almost sometimes that bright, yellowish green... And so it seems that the problem is dehydration & dead, dried leaves & such. But the "red hairs" are really quite dark brown, and the clear-white is now rich amber, and everything looks so--- IDK--- not right (although that's how it SHOULD look, considering.)

But having been "outside" during the rainiest it's been all year, wrapped in a plastic box WITHOUT de-humidification & good air-flow for a couple days, I just feel awful...

Honestly, I think when stuff like this happens, depression is the biggest problem... This sort of thing can sap the will right out of a grower. I have set-up a few plastic bins & buckets, lots of clean water, H2O2, lemon-juice, baking soda, & researched a butt-load of information on safely washing your pre-dried bud to clean it from bugs, dirt, debris, & some forms of mold. I've studied extensively on the subject, and although washing bud seems crazy, it's actually not. (Those who wish to debate the wisdom of washing bud & argue why they'd rather smoke dirty bud can do so on another thread please, and remain on-topic here).

So IDK... I want to try and save it, but I'm pretty much at the end of my tether with this. I cannot imagine doing all the work ahead of me for nothing, just to get nasty, moldy, over-ripe weed. (Plus I film everything for a future video-series, which just adds extra work to anything I do with my plant.)

The dichotomy is that I also cannot imagine mistakenly throwing away 4 months worth of primo amazing bud full of perfectly amber trichomes because I thought it looked "too brown", or because too many know-it-all nay-sayers on the forums here said it was moldy & bunk, when in fact it wasn't.

(First pic below was just before the weekend, the others are from this morning. Trash or Triumph???)

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