Shrubs First
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Rhizotonic is great, Humboldt Roots is a great stimulant as well.
I also use a lot of Hygrozyme to keep them clean.
I also use a lot of Hygrozyme to keep them clean.
Mycorrhizal fungi applications for cannabis - the caveats
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grnTOMATOS
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I use Mykos mycorrhizae
. Its only $14.99 for 2.2 lbs and the company that makes it is the nation's oldest grower of myco. I've tried a number of products that were considerably more expensive, but this is the one that delivered.their site is reforest.com
also worth noting that this product is the pure goods (all fungus and no ferts/humic -- ie things that can burn your plant in combo with the prods you're already using) -- only need 1-3 tblspn per plant to get fat inoculation
Shrubs First
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Thats a product for a different purpose. Rhizotonic is marine algae and similar toI use Mykos mycorrhizae
their site is reforest.com
also worth noting that this product is the pure goods (all fungus and no ferts/humic -- ie things that can burn your plant in combo with the prods you're already using) -- only need 1-3 tblspn per plant to get fat inoculation
the humboldt roots, the humboldt roots has a vitamin package as well as mycorrhizal
spores. But both products are used as a root stimulant whereas you are referring
to an innoculation product. For that purpose i use Great White Premium Mycorrhizae
with great results.
infoseekr
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http://www.usemyke.com/mycorise/index.htm
Is this the product grnTomatoes is refering to?
I dont think it would colonize our plant of choice roots. what does forum think?
the reforest link spoke of pumpkin pro.not usable in hydro systems. Great White is what works.
Is this the product grnTomatoes is refering to?
I dont think it would colonize our plant of choice roots. what does forum think?
the reforest link spoke of pumpkin pro.not usable in hydro systems. Great White is what works.
infoseekr
Member
I also put a sock stuffed with coco fiber into my reservoir so myco have place to go and dont get lost during reservoir changes. I reapply said sock to new reservior ... this was suggested to me By neil of FoxFarm Nutrients.... same conversation was first time I ever heard of Great White and Neil spoke highly of it. he outlined this sock method as an attempt to not dump them ALL down the drain during res change. What does Forum think?
mookie brown
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Anyone here use Blue Mountain Organics "super plant tonic" ? It has mycorrhizal fungi in it. http://www.angelfire.com/ar2/tts/bmospt.html I do use their grow it green & flower power but just want to know if I add super plant tonic to my feeding schedule if it's going to pay dividends. So far so good with the products I've bought from them for soil grows.
wyteboi
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I use super plant tonic and its decent shit ..... if your using BMO i would definatly get it. The only prob with using SPT as a mycorrhizae product is that i have never seen a liquid myco. I dont see how they can keep the myco alive in the bottle. Plus can anyone else see whats wrong with thhis statement? :
"Endo and Ecto Bacteria protect your plants roots and break down insoluble NPK, Mycorrhizal Fungi inoculate your plants roots"
I love bmo. but i would love to see a real breakdown on the product.
"Endo and Ecto Bacteria protect your plants roots and break down insoluble NPK, Mycorrhizal Fungi inoculate your plants roots"
I love bmo. but i would love to see a real breakdown on the product.
Uncle Ben
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I doubt if you'll see that, and if you do can you believe their statements? I mean, I don't usually believe in regulation, but these guys can say they have endo this amino that, and it just may not be true....it may contain nothing of the sort, not that they would have any real world benefit to begin with.
What I like to see is products reviewed by an impartial lab.
UB
wyteboi
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Yes , thats what i like ... no bullshit like an.
Do you know of anywhere i can send my brews to , to get tested ? i know im obsessed but it dont hurt to ask.
I am not saying anything bad about BMO , i just think they are playing the guessing game like the rest of us in organics.
endo and ecto IS myco and their breakdown makes it seem like myco is a fungi and endo/ecto is a seperate bacteria.
(for my own info , is bacteria and fungi the same thing?)
I also think (almost certain) that the SPT is their own brew of AEM. If its not then they did a VERY good job getting close to the same species of bacteria in their bottle.
I followed the directions for making bokashi , only instead of using EM , i used SPT ...let it ferment for a couple weeks and it came out smelling like what they describe on the bokashi sites. (sweet an sour ..kinda vinagar/beer?)
anyways i put the fermented food into my very small compost bin (35 gallon trash can 1/3 full) ... and that heated up to around 100F in just a couple days.
very impressive to me .... so at least i know their is good microbes in the shit.
I just got real EM and i am testing that on some old beat down soil.
ok im ramblin again ... good day all!
Uncle Ben
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No, but I'm sure you can find some if you look hard enough. Fees might be high for single, justified for a firm.
DaveCoulier
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I thought you might enjoy this post from a buddy on a different site regarding Myco.
Originally posted by Secondtry at ICMAG.
Here is the effect of P levels (ppm) upon AM fungi infection of pepper and tomato...both of those can be used to model the probable effect of P concentration upon AM fungi infection of cannabis:
Originally posted by Secondtry at ICMAG.
Here is the effect of P levels (ppm) upon AM fungi infection of pepper and tomato...both of those can be used to model the probable effect of P concentration upon AM fungi infection of cannabis:
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has anyone tried to make a 5 gal.bucket bio filter and inoculate it with subculture M and subculture B then circulate the water from your Res. through it continuously? I was going to try this next grow.What are your thoughts on that?
wyteboi
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I am not sure the myco will live through all that but it works great for beneficial bacteria in fish tanks..... but i have no idea if that same concept will work in the res. i have always wondered that myself.
It seems the frequent nute changes and shifts might fuck up the ...uh.. colonization of the bio filter. I really have no idea though.
Another good find dave!
It has david douds jr's name on the study, so i'll take it as fact.
Not to mention UB lets everyone know about that one (rightfully so)
TOO MUCH P WILL MAKE THINGS WORSE!
Uncle Ben
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Corroborates what Dr. Linda told me and what (I think) I posted about before in this thread regarding too much P shutting down the exudes from the host plant that support the fungi. I am currently using myco on a large commercial scale and am NOT putting down any food at the time of transplant.
UB
DaveCoulier
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I remember it being said earlier, but the levels I thought it became a problem at are actually much lower than thought. I look at it basically saying Myco and fertilizers dont get along. If you use ferts with myco, your basically flushing wasted money down the toilet.
Uncle Ben
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Yep, and the reason why I entitled this "the caveats". I may be repeating my self but one expert (Dr.) said that the natives will "eat them suckas" meaning the native microbes will use your additions as food and two, you don't need alot of P as it will shut down the host plant's production of exudes, acids and such that feed the fungi. It's not an issue of the two getting along (which seems logical to me too), it's an issue of the myco colony going dormant if you feed your soil too much P which causes the host plant to stop producing goodies for the colony's survival.
IOW, may just be pissin' up a rope with this stuff, hoo nose?
How's IC Mag doing? Posted their a while......
UB
DaveCoulier
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Well Rez is still a giant douche. Ive only read like two of his posts and I can already tell he's a dick. Apparently alot of people feel that way about him. ahAha. Watch me get banned if he ever reads this.Yep, and the reason why I entitled this "the caveats". I may be repeating my self but one expert (Dr.) said that the natives will "eat them suckas" meaning the native microbes will use your additions as food and two, you don't need alot of P as it will shut down the host plant's production of exudes, acids and such that feed the fungi. It's not an issue of the two getting along (which seems logical to me too), it's an issue of the myco colony going dormant if you feed your soil too much P which causes the host plant to stop producing goodies for the colony's survival.
IOW, may just be pissin' up a rope with this stuff, hoo nose?
How's IC Mag doing? Posted their a while......
UB
I mostly use icmag just to find info about strains I want to grow. Its great they have breeders forums. I wish we had that here.
Theres also a few smart people over there that supply tons of good info like you do.
Uncle Ben
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Gypsy and his kind sucked up to Rez based on sales appeal. Rezdog talked shit and most bought into it. I registered, took a shot at him and OldPink/Gypsy banned me.
He's just another cannabis dirtbag. RC banned Rezdog from his Cbay ditty after finding out that he was shilling his Cbay mutts.
UB
Subtlechaos
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Hey, UB. First of all, thank you for posting this. I just ordered some mycorrhizae inoculant. I'm trying to learn as much as I can, before THIS gets here. Are you familiar with this product? Does it sound like something you'd use?
Anyways, do you think you could possibly poke your head in THIS THREAD? Got a couple of specific questions I posted here.
Thank you very much for taking the time, man. You've already been a big help.
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Anyways, do you think you could possibly poke your head in THIS THREAD? Got a couple of specific questions I posted here.
Thank you very much for taking the time, man. You've already been a big help.
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