My first real grow

Kriegs

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BTW... All your other parameters look great -- light distance, temps, humidity. Nice clean grow space.. very cool.
 

420Brazilian

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As we've communicated elsewhere, I think you diagnosed and corrected your problem. Reading back thru your journal all I can say is ... wow, that's a lot of stuff you're adding, and it gels up with your falling pH, high PPM, and drooping leaves. And most Haze's have very strong sativa genes -- sativas are typically less nutrient demanding, and like lower PPMS than indicas. Your Purple looks like an indica-dominant, BTW..

It sounds like you now have your pH and PPM back to where they should be for your plants' stage. I'm really not an expert on all these additives and nutes, but I do think there's a lot of "voodoo" that gets sold to growers (and super-experienced growers will back me up on this). It sounds like you're in a good soil mix -- there shouldn't be any significant additional "needs" in there, if any. I'd be willing to wager that you can ride right to the end with nothing but water from here. A little calcium carbonate mixed into your top inch of soil would be the ONLY thing I would do -- all this will do is help keep your pH where it is at now by picking up soil acids that are a natural product of the degradation of wood material (which commercial potting soils are LOADED with -- that's why they can drop pH so easily).

If it were me, I'd stick to plain water at least for a couple of weeks and just watch the response. They certainly aren't going to fade or crop up a deficiency in that short of time, and keeping it super-simple will allow you to see clearly if your plants are back on a good path. Adding stuff back in at this point complicates the picture -- if your problems do persist, you won't be able to figure out what is causing what.

A lot of pro's don't add anything unless they actually see a deficiency forming...

I've spent a lot of time looking at people's plant troubles here and on ICMAG. A consistent theme is that people are overdoing things -- too much of everything. MJ is a WEED.. which means its a plant that grows in tough places under tough conditions. And Haze's have more of this "tough mofo" in them than inbred indica hybrids. MJ doesn't necessarily like all the babysitting we are so fond of. I learned this the hard way, and we all seem to have to go thru it personally.

All in all, your plants look GREAT. If your containers are 9L.. that's over 2 gallons.. you shouldn't even need to transplant. They should recover very nicely. Peace...
Thanks for all the help, little by little we learn more everyday.
 

hugetom80s

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Thanks for all the help, little by little we learn more everyday.
Yup, too true. The trick is to find the middle ground. We all know that more attention and feeding is better than none, but too much is just as bad.

There's no denying that proper feeding vastly improves both quality and quantity of yield but it's all too easy to fall victim of the "if some is good, more is better" fallacy. I know, I've done it more times than I care to admit.

"Oh, just a tad more, it'll be better."


Looks like you should be back on track though - there's worse ways to learn this lesson, believe me.
 

420Brazilian

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UPDATE
Strawberry Haze, Nevilles Haze, Hawaiian Snow and Arjan's Haze #1 that was flowering for 29 days, have to go, had a fuckin hermie in the room and all the others (except Super Silver Haze) have seeds growin on them. SUCKS
Is Super Silver Haze going to turn hermie too ??? Hope not, she the only one I have left. She hasn't showed sex yet, but she was a fem seed. She's has been in 12/12 for 14 days (2 weeks) but she takes about 11 weeks to finish flowering.
 

420Brazilian

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Need opinion if I did the right thing, I called a friend that knows how to grow and I told him what happened with my plants and about the Super Silver Haze, that she hasn't showed sex yet. He told me to trow away the 4 plants with seeds and SHOWER the super silver haze, to get whatever pollen that might be on the leaves, before she starts shooting out her little hairs, and also to clean the entire tent. So I did that. Sucks that I had to trow away the plants, specially the Strawberry Haze, I promised this girl I would have her some strawberry buds, you know how girls love strawberries. She looked so beautiful, I almost cried when I found seeds on her, I broke my bedroom door with my head, I got pissed, them smoke a blunt and calmed down.
Good news is that I cut down the UNKNOWN PURPLE, didn't see no purple on the buds, wet weight was 148.7, still drying in my closet.
 

Kriegs

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Need opinion if I did the right thing, I called a friend that knows how to grow and I told him what happened with my plants and about the Super Silver Haze, that she hasn't showed sex yet. He told me to trow away the 4 plants with seeds and SHOWER the super silver haze, to get whatever pollen that might be on the leaves, before she starts shooting out her little hairs, and also to clean the entire tent. So I did that. Sucks that I had to trow away the plants, specially the Strawberry Haze, I promised this girl I would have her some strawberry buds, you know how girls love strawberries. She looked so beautiful, I almost cried when I found seeds on her, I broke my bedroom door with my head, I got pissed, them smoke a blunt and calmed down.
Good news is that I cut down the UNKNOWN PURPLE, didn't see no purple on the buds, wet weight was 148.7, still drying in my closet.
Hard to say if it was the right thing. A lot of plants hermie late in flower, and it has no effect really as there isn't time left to form mature seeds.

Hazes are generally long-maturing, so opened balls at 4 weeks could be a problem. If I were you, I'd have to look at the whole sitch... If I had 6 plants and 5 went hermie, I wouldn't take down the 5 to save the 1. I'd just roll with it. I've had plenty of good weed over the years that had seed in it (including a bag of awesome Thai in my possession right now) -- the rumor that seed destroys potency is bullshit.

Depends a little on the extent of the problem, too. Are we talking a set of balls here, one there... or a whole bunch? I had some hermie balls pop at about the same point - I plucked off every one I could find before they opened, but some obviously escaped detection, as I ended up with some seeded bud here and there, almost all of it way down low on the plant in little airy popcorn buds. Overall, no big deal.. the vast majority still came out sensi.. Point being, just cause a set of balls pop doesn't mean your whole plant is going to turn into a pile of seed.

I had a second wave of hermie balls around 8 weeks flower; I plucked them too, but didn't do it religiously as there was no time left for them to do damage.
 

Bublonichronic

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nice gro bro....i see u have a habitatt tent...i had the habitatt 33 and it killed everything i put in it with toxic gasses, looks like your interior is silver, mine was white so hopefully they fixed the problem...i still say fuck that company VERY nice grow tho
 

hugetom80s

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I agree with Kriegs. I'm not sure I'd chop 5 plants to save 1. I'd consider 6 plants of seedy bud better than one seedless.

But what you did isn't "wrong", it's just a matter of personal preference. Some would do it that way, some would do it differently. Live, learn, and grow again.
 
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