My first grow

Jerry Garcia

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Hi Jerry,

Those girls are doing so well… They look really beautiful. I hope you are really enjoying this nice experience. I’m going to order some seeds form Nirvana this week (hope they don’t take too long to arrive), maybe AK-48, Jock Horror and Aurora Indica… wanna try one of sativa, one indica and one mixed.
BTW are you going to give that buds some flavor or just go natural?
This is a interesting page about that..
http://www.seedbankupdate.com/cure.htm

Best wishes.:joint:
Thanks man--I've never dealt with Nirvana, but I have used The Attitude and I recommend them. They're in the UK, but my order arrived quick and without any problems. Those three strains you've picked out sound excellent.

I'm not going to add any flavoring...that link was the first I've ever heard of that! I am planning on curing though. Roseman posted a nice thread about harvesting and curing, but I can't seem to find it at the moment...I'll post a link to it when I do, because it was really very detailed and very awesome!
 
can anyone help with this? germinated seeds last week. put in pots and after about ten days they have grown about three to four inches tall but there is only two small leaves on top. from jerrys pictures his are just a couple inches with loads of leaves. mine just seem to be growing long stems. they are in enriched soil. has this anything to do with it? i would prefer short bushy plants not tall skinny ones. any views much appreciated. sorry for piggy backing on your post jerry but there seems to be a lot of knowledegable people posting so i thought it would best place to ask
 

Tatan

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Things are looking great Jerry. Ive noticed how much bigger your buds have gotten. Very impressive man, looks like you are going to have tons of good quality weed to smoke my friend congrats !
Good job on the 4.0... see, you can grow weed and do well in school at the same time lol.

Make sure you take pics of the new setup ... cant wait to see.

Regarding the 2 liter bottles I think they would work. Its just a matter of how big your plants are. The good thing about those bottles is that roots tend to go down.. and not as much sideways.


Highjulypool: your plants are not getting enough light, that is why they are so tall and have small leaves. Marijuana plants arent like most houseplants... they need tons of light.
 

mared juwan

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Hi Jerry,

Those girls are doing so well… They look really beautiful. I hope you are really enjoying this nice experience. I’m going to order some seeds form Nirvana this week (hope they don’t take too long to arrive), maybe AK-48, Jock Horror and Aurora Indica… wanna try one of sativa, one indica and one mixed.
BTW are you going to give that buds some flavor or just go natural?
This is a interesting page about that..
http://www.seedbankupdate.com/cure.htm

Best wishes.:joint:
PLEASE please please don't get Nirvana seeds. I have three Nirvana strains and they are mediocre at best. I'm finishing up the last round of it now. It's pretty much like commercial strains with huge buds that look great but the potency and smell is just not there. There's way better to be had for the money. If you don't want to pay more than $35 for ten seeds then check out Cannacopia from Hemp Depot. Try the BC Roadkill and you will not be disappointed GUARANTEED. I know it's hard to believe some random person from the internet but if you research you will find that anyone who has grown Nirvana strains and also something else that's quality will tell you Nirvana is not so great. Rant over.

EDIT: one of my strains is Jock Horror. Definitely not mid grade or anything but it doesn't compare with the best weed I've ever smoked that is for damn sure. If you have ever heard anyone say "Jock Horror" is the best shit I ever smoked they probably mean "Jack Herer." COMPLETELY different thing.
 

satuple

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PLEASE please please don't get Nirvana seeds. I have three Nirvana strains and they are mediocre at best. I'm finishing up the last round of it now. It's pretty much like commercial strains with huge buds that look great but the potency and smell is just not there. There's way better to be had for the money. If you don't want to pay more than $35 for ten seeds then check out Cannacopia from Hemp Depot. Try the BC Roadkill and you will not be disappointed GUARANTEED. I know it's hard to believe some random person from the internet but if you research you will find that anyone who has grown Nirvana strains and also something else that's quality will tell you Nirvana is not so great. Rant over.

EDIT: one of my strains is Jock Horror. Definitely not mid grade or anything but it doesn't compare with the best weed I've ever smoked that is for damn sure. If you have ever heard anyone say "Jock Horror" is the best shit I ever smoked they probably mean "Jack Herer." COMPLETELY different thing.
Thanks for the advise mared juwan.. I'll look for others seed banks...

:joint:
 

mared juwan

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Yea make sure to know the difference between a seed bank and a breeder. Nirvana is a breeder and also a seedbank. You can buy their seeds elsewhere, like at Attitude. Attitude carries seeds from something like 40 breeders. Attitude has nothing to do with making the seeds. The breeder is what is important to the quality of genetics. The seedbank is important in reliably getting the seeds delivered to you. You won't find the strain I mentioned at the Attitude but there are plenty other good ones there. This is one area where it doesn't pay to skimp. If you pay maybe $75-100 for some Serious Seeds you will have a far more valuable product in the end than if you get something like Nirvana has for $30. You mentioned the AK-48 from Nirvana. That is pretty much a knock off of Serious AK47. Get the real thing you won't be sorry.
 

Jerry Garcia

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can anyone help with this? germinated seeds last week. put in pots and after about ten days they have grown about three to four inches tall but there is only two small leaves on top. from jerrys pictures his are just a couple inches with loads of leaves. mine just seem to be growing long stems. they are in enriched soil. has this anything to do with it? i would prefer short bushy plants not tall skinny ones. any views much appreciated. sorry for piggy backing on your post jerry but there seems to be a lot of knowledegable people posting so i thought it would best place to ask
As Tatan said, your plants are too far away from the light and/or are not getting enough light. Move them as close to your light as you can without burning them and that should help. You can also bury that stretched stem up to the first node and that should help give it stability so it doesn't topple over.

Things are looking great Jerry. Ive noticed how much bigger your buds have gotten. Very impressive man, looks like you are going to have tons of good quality weed to smoke my friend congrats !
Good job on the 4.0... see, you can grow weed and do well in school at the same time lol.

Make sure you take pics of the new setup ... cant wait to see.

Regarding the 2 liter bottles I think they would work. Its just a matter of how big your plants are. The good thing about those bottles is that roots tend to go down.. and not as much sideways.
Thanks man, I got my first 4.0 of my life in grad school...guess it took me this long to get motivated, or something. I go to class high, take tests high, give presentations high, certainly write papers high, and I seem to do just fine.

So I haven't had a chance to make my newest grow-room addition yet...I need to use a table saw and only have access to one in the evening. But it should help maximize the # of plants I can cram into that teeny-tiny space.

if its at 77 degrees how hot is it without the ac becuase im growing in my attic and it gets really hot up there
Without the a/c on a recent hot evening the temp reached 108 (as the a/c shut itself off because the water bucket was full...), so it gets pretty fucking hot. Attic grows are problematic for just that reason, and in the summer I don't think you can successfully grow there without an air conditioner.

Yea make sure to know the difference between a seed bank and a breeder. Nirvana is a breeder and also a seedbank. You can buy their seeds elsewhere, like at Attitude. Attitude carries seeds from something like 40 breeders. Attitude has nothing to do with making the seeds. The breeder is what is important to the quality of genetics. The seedbank is important in reliably getting the seeds delivered to you. You won't find the strain I mentioned at the Attitude but there are plenty other good ones there. This is one area where it doesn't pay to skimp. If you pay maybe $75-100 for some Serious Seeds you will have a far more valuable product in the end than if you get something like Nirvana has for $30. You mentioned the AK-48 from Nirvana. That is pretty much a knock off of Serious AK47. Get the real thing you won't be sorry.
Why does anyone still deal with Nirvana? I haven't heard much about their breeder side, but I've heard lots of bad things about their seedbank side in recent weeks--lots of non-delivered orders and unsatisfied individuals. They always seemed a little sketch to me, but I have no personal experience either way with them. Attitude worked for me, so I'll use them again.

Update with pics coming within the hour...
 

Tatan

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Yeah... hehehe Ive taught in college for many years and in my opinion smoking some weed and doing well in school are completely compatible :)
 

Jerry Garcia

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Alright guys and girls, I took more pictures last night before bed, so we'll get to those in a moment. I checked out the trichs yesterday on tall girl and wide girl (but not shorty...she was all the way in the back and I didn't feel like moving the others at the time...I was lazy), and was moderately surprised to find mostly cloudy trichs on wide girl, with fewer on tall girl. Both still had some clear-headed trichs, so I figured they could handle one more solid feeding before they get their 2 week water only flush. So I used molasses, tiger bloom, big bloom, cha ching and superthrive. Watering with the sand has really become an art--I have to dig a small ditch around the stem to channel all the water down the center of the pot (and not let it run off the top to the edges where it just goes right out the bottom). I pH'ed my nutrient solution to 6.9 going in, but my runoff measured 7.5 across the board. Not sure why it is so high, I've been carefully monitoring the pH ever time I give it anything, but whatever. I purchased one of those little soil pH tester kits but have yet to use it...maybe with some free time later I'll give it a whirl.

So from here on in the plants will receive only water and molasses (unless you all think I should use water only). This is a hard decision to make not knowing the expected flowering time of my bagseed strains, as I don't really know how long it takes the trichs to turn amber. And I don't want to begin flushing for two weeks when they are 50% amber...two weeks from today would put it at 69 days flowering...

Otherwise, things are going well. I took lots of pics yesterday, so we'll see how many I can get up...

We begin with Tall girl...kinda dark pic, sorry


You can almost see how she is beginning to push out some new bud growth similar to wide girl...


Close up of the top--sorry about the cat hair, it just gets in everything I own.


Couple middle buds...


Lower branches, still filling out nicely.


Next, Wide girl. I need to illuminate the plants better for these full plant shots...


Here's a top down shot of her top. The leaves look so shitty but that bud sure looks nice.


I like it.


Close up, another angle.


And another...


This is a bottom-up shot trying to show the buds along the stem...didn't work too well though. The buds along the stem are also starting to shoot off new projections of wonderfulness.


Shorty, always bringing up the rear.


Those lower buds really extend the entire way to the main stem. You can't see from the pics, but once they are harvested and trimmed those lower branches are going to be a nice size. And some good pot!


Here is the next generation of wonderful plants, ready to roll. I'm going to leave these 5 girls un-topped, as they have pretty descent node spacing and already are developing buds.


Here's the first one I topped, looking nice! Those are going to be 4 main colas for sure! It will be interesting to see how these turn out, because she is still in 12/12 lighting and has been since before I topped her. Had I already known the sex, I could have topped and let those cola's veg for a few weeks before going 12/12 (which I will do with at least one of the blue cheeses), but this will give me a nice baseline for comparison.


That little girl in the back there is the top from the above plant. Her first few days of life were dicey--she got really limp, to the point I thought it was done for--but now she is standing strong and has undoubtedly grown some roots. I probably should have taken off that bottom set of fan leaves, but whatever it worked! So one more female for me to play with...I wonder what happens if I topped her above the second node...would I get 4 colas? I assume topping a clone works just like topping anything else...


Here are the other 3 girls I topped (and disposed of their tops...I've got no room to take on any more plants!). I selected these because they had gotten the most stretched and appeared to be developing a little more slowly because of that. None of these will have the growth rate of the first one I topped, at least not initially, because the growth that becomes the 4 new cola's has barely started to poke out from the node (the one in the back is clearly the worst off--I may have actually topped above the first node on that one because the distance to the second node was so great (stretched).


Here's my solution to the damn a/c shutting off--a hose and a bucket! Now this thing could probably run 3 days straight before the bucket would fill up, and even then I don't think it would shut off...just flood my bathroom and keep on trucking...


So that was quite an update. Hope you enjoyed it. I'm going to get high. :leaf:
 

Tatan

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Damn Jerry those buds are so nice and huge ! Congrats !

If your trich are already mostly cloudy I would expect that within a week you would have a lot of amber trichs...
 

Babs34

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Very nice info with the rubbing alcohol. Didn't know about that one. Thanks, babs!

Jerry, 6 females under a 400 HPS = huge buds. Great news, man.
Yeah Mared, but it's tedious when you only have a couple of plants, try that on a room full of them.
I haven't been spending much time on here lately, but I checked out your grow(s)....phew, almost 100 pages. Sorry, tried to be patient, but I had to skip to the pictures. :mrgreen:
First grow, eh? Outstanding!!! for even a 30th. Do ya thang.
The last part I was reading about was including your girlfriend on the grow---and how she picked out the strains for the "pretty pictures." I lmao. It's a female thing.:bigjoint:
As my grandmother always said, "pretty is as pretty does.":peace:
 

Babs34

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Oh, and Jerry....about the molassas. I'll try to keep it simple--inevitably impossible for me. And I'll stop nagging you about the gnats. I'll just hope for you that you don't get the maffia mob that I have had going on.
I'm literally falling asleep right now, but molassas is great in the end......for EVERYTHING. No worries of clogging up anything at this point. You aren't revegging, are you?
I'll get back to this and we'll talk TEA too.
You can't really change the flavor of your bud so much as you can "enhance" it. It just gets more fun from here. :peace:
 

skeeterleg

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Congrats on the 4.0! Man that brings back memories. Been over twenty years for me! lol

Looking good and frosty bro. You have a nice little op going there. I know you are stoked. Not long now but this is the hardest part! Waiting....lol
 

Tatan

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LOL Jerry seems like you are going to have the same problem Im currently dealing with... Too many plants ready to go flower and not enough space for them all lol.
 

Jerry Garcia

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Oh, and Jerry....about the molassas. I'll try to keep it simple--inevitably impossible for me. And I'll stop nagging you about the gnats. I'll just hope for you that you don't get the maffia mob that I have had going on.
I'm literally falling asleep right now, but molassas is great in the end......for EVERYTHING. No worries of clogging up anything at this point. You aren't revegging, are you?
I'll get back to this and we'll talk TEA too.
You can't really change the flavor of your bud so much as you can "enhance" it. It just gets more fun from here. :peace:
I appreciate your nagging about the gnats...it showed me pretty quick that they aren't something to take lightly. The fact that they haven't become a "mafia mob" yet is because you've scared me into being on the lookout for the bastards. Since my initial spat with them, I have only seen a couple flying around my room, and not any in the grow room, so I haven't needed to take such extreme measures as you've described in previous posts.

And what of this tea you keep mentioning? I've been going strong on the molasses for 2 months now, and I'll keep it going through to harvest I suppose...is that ok?

Congrats on the 4.0! Man that brings back memories. Been over twenty years for me! lol

Looking good and frosty bro. You have a nice little op going there. I know you are stoked. Not long now but this is the hardest part! Waiting....lol
Thanks skeeter, I really busted my ass the last few weeks to earn that 4.0, so it feels good. Turns out I've only had one B since I've been in grad school, and that was in my first semester. But hopefully I've taken my last college classes for a LONG time now...

And you're right, I am stoked but also having the hardest time waiting. I've got some shitty other weed I've been dealing with, which hasn't been making the situation any better. I'm strong though, I won't give in to this temptation.

LOL Jerry seems like you are going to have the same problem Im currently dealing with... Too many plants ready to go flower and not enough space for them all lol.
That's exactly why I'm doing a little amateur carpentry today! Got my wood cut last night so I can work on the room right now. I should have a finished/workable product to unveil later with my update tonight...

Thanks for hanging around ya'll! Harvest time is looming just over that horizon...:weed:
 

mared juwan

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Your nugs look juicy, Jerry LOL. Don't forget to flush them for a long enough time and harvest in the last hours of their dark time. I've been experimenting and it seems to cure up nicer when harvested at night.
 
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