My 2 cents on profit for caregivers

Buddy Ganga said:

Bob,

You're trying to have a discussion with people who are not concerned with the laws or the sick in anyway, their only concern is making money.
So the replies you get are going to reflect that.


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I understand that completely. But I'm not going to let them babble on in a MEDICAL MJ forum unchallenged.

I'd like to think if some legislator is researching a site like this, he can at least think that there are some reasonable people that are not out simply to abuse the law.


I'm all for medical and legal cannabis. And thees torch bearing idiots are trying really hard to justify a repeal of the law.

hey bob-

eat me.

i stepped up and said. that's MY problem. you keep saying everyone. if you used your tweaker powers for good instead of this bullshit, it would benefit the movement much better. everyone gets it, you want to be able to make a fair living doing this. we all do. the problem is you're preaching to the choir. what we do here is literally blazing the trail. so for you to come here with your know it all attitude is insulting to our intelligence. sure we don't have all the answers. neither do you, or else everyone would've bent over and sucked your dick. you don't, and we're not gonna.

maybe you should take some type of online "marketing" class, that would teach you to interact with your peers in more controlling fashion. instead of wasting your time here.
bob have you ever run a chainsaw with a bar bigger than 14". what i was saying was i do it. take the fuckin chains and the saws, and the tractor and ropes, gas and oil, hammers and wedges, winch cables and straps, all to the woods, and listen to them fuckin bitches screamin as i'm in murdering the fuck outta 'em!LOL my biggest saw is 89cc turbo charged, with 48" bar with ripper chain.again.LOL

why don't you teach us some sativa skills, bob. that's the real info, any of us jackasses knows how to figure out how much money we earned at the end of the week. SHEESH.

https://www.rollitup.org/michigan-patients/448737-great-debate.html

it's smokin good sativa-

that gets me me all fired up for sure. meet me at the end.

Come on Murf,

You used to condemn the type of idiots posting in this thread with all of their illegal bullshit.
What happened man, you go soft or something, is that why my mom dumped you? lol

gotigers0420 said:

You ever heard of corn, or barley, or tomatoes? How about Tobacco? They all grow naturally as well. But in order for the ones that dont have the time or the know how or the motovation, those crops must be produced for them. Its ok to profit off of vegetables and prescription drugs and cigarettes but not MM? Farmers have to make a profit to be able to keep providing. How is MM any different? If they dont want to make there own meds, then pay up.

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read my last sentance again, if people dont want to work for their food then they starve. i hate to be an ass about it but we are lazy people. tech has gotten so high tech that we dont care, instead of turning around and going o fuck put all this hydro stuff together(can find great stuff in the trash) and boom. yes it takes a while to go ahead and grow your own and slaughter your own stuff. but this idea of money is getting so fucken ridiculous ive started cutting back all kinds of stuff so my power company isnt gunna get rich off me. and im a 100% more motivated because i took the first step. as for MM when is the wall gunna be torn down? its a damn plant so stop putting it on a pedistile with an extra word to make better than it is.

i broke her butt-

and she pooped all over me.

the thing is though, we need a little dissent. i really am not happy with the way this is ending up.


i tried like a mother fucker in the real world to get stooges to stop actin dumb.
they wouldn't. so i had to say, fuck it. these fuckers wanna act like ballers, lets let the grey line get real wide, so everyone's int it. even the those "real dealers" once a bunch of shit gets illegal it just goes back to their control. it's cool, they're all my buddies.
i'm worried about bob though.

the real reason is-

they have never been legal. they cover it with other details.
so when the feds(irs) comes, it me and you. all those guys are lauhgin, bettin on MM failure. they'll be able to make money again!

and i know noones scared of the irs. but they should be.

ever heard of al capone. he was the most generous fuckin criminal ever.
that's why it's the only way. your neighbor will be pissed if you get busted for growin the pot that saved his neice's life. but. if you're not payin you're taxes, well, that's just unamerican!

ahhhhh sativa skillz
i live in a very econmically depressed area and my "meds" get smoked in a very rich area ... my money stays local so i essence i am the revenue stream from the rich to the poor... when i buy my eggs and half cows or pigs from ranchers and toss em an extra 20$ cuz i know its the best.... shit its the reason they love me and my folks. we help them get by i buy extra when they got it then hook up my buddies.... just like weed used too be oh wait thats how it should be how all homeopothy should be passed from loved one to loved one...
im a regular robin hood : what you done for your community lately bob? what ranchers do you help shopping at walmart all day and living worse than the cattle grazing in the foothills of my yard/....kiss-ass

people will always think that way. o i didnt pay my taxes on some dope but fuck i sure as hell fed half the hood from my garden(one day i will have god as my witness). hey dude you dont like it pay for your own. if i was more prepared this year id have more plants then id be able. becoming more everyday, so should you.

god cares little for taxes and weed it is the greedy hands that hurt others for it or regulating it that god shall judge..... not for us to care about anyway helping your fellow man and paying taxes are what i am all about be a homowner and disp. owner.....

joe!-

what up doC?

outdoor plants make me smile ear to ear.

OVERGROW.

Murfy said:

i broke her butt-

and she pooped all over me.

the thing is though, we need a little dissent. i really am not happy with the way this is ending up.


i tried like a mother fucker in the real world to get stooges to stop actin dumb.
they wouldn't. so i had to say, fuck it. these fuckers wanna act like ballers, lets let the grey line get real wide, so everyone's int it. even the those "real dealers" once a bunch of shit gets illegal it just goes back to their control. it's cool, they're all my buddies.
i'm worried about bob though.

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Don't worry about me bro...I'll be fine

And I do have a ton of posts about growing Sativa's in many other threads. Organics, advanced growing, general growing...all over. Where they belong.

But when people want to rant about how much money they make under the guise of care giving. I'll challenge that thinking. If a guy like you, with a pretty big grow, is making a decent living, God Bless you...that's not who I'm talking about.

I'm talking about these kids thinking that they should make an unlimited income based on greed, not care giving.

In Michigan, the only legal income is from services provided in the growing and cultivation for the patient. The value of cannabis in Michigan medical law is $0. The ONLY monetary compensation allowed is for the time and services,and actual cost to produce..in essence, you can be paid for being a gardener, or farmer if you prefer that term.

Weed..is worth nothing in the medical law world of Michigan.
(read the law again) The question in Michigan is what is reasonable compensation for growing and making the product.

These guys want to continually revert yo "my weeds worth XXX".....they should be saying my time efforts and expenses make my efforts worth XXXX.

The problem is that they can't justify that their time, efforts and skills, are worth what they want to make.

Joedank said:

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i live in a very econmically depressed area and my "meds" get smoked in a very rich area ... my money stays local so i essence i am the revenue stream from the rich to the poor... when i buy my eggs and half cows or pigs from ranchers and toss em an extra 20$ cuz i know its the best.... shit its the reason they love me and my folks. we help them get by i buy extra when they got it then hook up my buddies.... just like weed used too be oh wait thats how it should be how all homeopothy should be passed from loved one to loved one...
im a regular robin hood : what you done for your community lately bob? what ranchers do you help shopping at walmart all day and living worse than the cattle grazing in the foothills of my yard/....kiss-ass

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What good have I done..lets see...Does standing on the Diaz steps at Michigan, with Adam Brooks, speaking to the crowd and rallying for responsible use of cannabis and the furthering of friendly cannabis laws at Hash Bash count? I've been doing that for years. How about hooking Rev. Thompson at NORMAL with hand made dugouts at cost, so he can re sell them at events to finance his work? that count?

I usually don't toot my own horn about my civic contributions..but since you asked..

did you ever get over to that other thread bob?-

too bad bad i didn't have all this traffic. my thread is months older.
and i think i did a better job proposing it .

still sounds like your alot of talk and crappy weed .... just lead your garden by example instead of hijacking threads with your "ideals" hoping to see us all broke and the people who you tell growing cannabis is easy.... if it was easy this forum would not exist your pot would look like mine.. i use soil big containers 100% organic no organocides or anything just guanos and sugars.... biodynamic in my indoor greenhouse as well but that is a whole nother kind of commitment....

hey man the world needs to change one person at a time.

Murfy said:

the real reason is-

they have never been legal. they cover it with other details.
so when the feds(irs) comes, it me and you. all those guys are lauhgin, bettin on MM failure. they'll be able to make money again!

and i know noones scared of the irs. but they should be.

ever heard of al capone. he was the most generous fuckin criminal ever.
that's why it's the only way. your neighbor will be pissed if you get busted for growin the pot that saved his neice's life. but. if you're not payin you're taxes, well, that's just unamerican!

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DVR'd "Prohibition" off PBS and watched it 3 times already. it's like watching the pot movement in reverse, like freaky kind of. Great show, and a remind that prohibition doesn't work. Alcohol prohibition s interchangable with pot completely.

While there are a lot of similarities between alcohol and pot, they are 2 completely different animals and have always been viewed as such. Alcohol was illegal for a period of less than 13 years. We've been fear mongering pot for over 70 years. As a result the social stigma built around marijuana is going to have long lasting effects.
As far as price is concerned why not let the patient(end consumer)decide how much he/she is willing to pay for a given product. I've got 3 patients that can afford to and do pay what many of you would probably deem as high prices. That said, I've got 2 cancer patients, 1 terminal, that all meds, edibles, concentrates, even paraphernalia are supplied to at no charge. Without the paying customers I really wouldn't have the ability to supply the cancer patient's with the level of quality and service that I do now.
You let the free market dictate prices and you get the best of everything. Including private donations and charitable contributions.

bob harris said:

When anyone starts talking over 2oz per month..that's recreational....much over that, seems to be "caregiver"

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I have to disagree with you Bob.
I smoke over 2oz a month and I very much consider these smoke outs
medicinal, spiritual and recreational at the same moment.

Joedank said:

still sounds like your alot of talk and crappy weed .... just lead your garden by example instead of hijacking threads with your "ideals" hoping to see us all broke and the people who you tell growing cannabis is easy.... if it was easy this forum would not exist your pot would look like mine.. i use soil big containers 100% organic no organocides or anything just guanos and sugars.... biodynamic in my indoor greenhouse as well but that is a whole nother kind of commitment....

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That's great Joe..love organic...so do you have anything useful to say about reasonable care taker profits? You know..the topic of the thread?