Larry {the} Gardener

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Im having a hard time narrowing down my strains. What would you keep if you had to chose just 6? Strong scent/flavor and pest resistance and top proirities. Yield matters but not as much as quality and flavor. I love Sour and OG the strains.

Sour Diesel (club cut)
Sour Diesel (420 BBQ cut)
Girl Scout Cookies
Gorilla Glue #4
Grand Master Kush
Grape Ape
Yumboldt 47
CandyTrain
Photon Blaster (my own cross and my biggest plant).

I've never had Yumboldt or CandyTrain. I'm kind of leaning away from the Grape Ape because it can be a flat high and lower yield.
I'm thinking of cutting my grow back to about 60 plants, and I'm having a hard time deciding what goes and what stays. After the runts and mutants are gone, I tend to dig new holes if there are extra ones. Not sure I would be very good at culling once they look as good as yours do.
 

MjMama

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I'm thinking of cutting my grow back to about 60 plants, and I'm having a hard time deciding what goes and what stays. After the runts and mutants are gone, I tend to dig new holes if there are extra ones. Not sure I would be very good at culling once they look as good as yours do.
Thanks! 60 plants is still a lot...

I usually gift the extras to friends and light dep anything I can't keep full season. I'm terrible at culling plants too.
 

MjMama

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Cookies is awesome smoke :) have me thinking I should order some kelp meal..
I heard the kelp meal is in short supply this year and the prices were marked up. Not sure if that was bullshit marketing to push people to buy "before it runs out" or if there truly is a shortage. Regardless, it's great stuff. I envy people who live close enough to the ocean to harvest it themselves.

I've been learning a lot about the cycle nutrients go through in the entire world, from the soil, to gasses in the air, and in the oceans. A lot of the fertility from land is being fast tracked to the ocean since we created streets and sewer systems that catch and eliminate water instead of letting it seep into the ground naturally. The water takes nutrients with it out of the soil and deposits it in the ocean. Kelp (and fish) accumulate those nutrients and provide a way we can harvest them and bring them back onto land to complete the cycle.
 

Larry {the} Gardener

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I heard the kelp meal is in short supply this year and the prices were marked up. Not sure if that was bullshit marketing to push people to buy "before it runs out" or if there truly is a shortage. Regardless, it's great stuff. I envy people who live close enough to the ocean to harvest it themselves.

I've been learning a lot about the cycle nutrients go through in the entire world, from the soil, to gasses in the air, and in the oceans. A lot of the fertility from land is being fast tracked to the ocean since we created streets and sewer systems that catch and eliminate water instead of letting it seep into the ground naturally. The water takes nutrients with it out of the soil and deposits it in the ocean. Kelp (and fish) accumulate those nutrients and provide a way we can harvest them and bring them back onto land to complete the cycle.
It's not just the good stuff that is getting washed into the Big Salty. Folks in the suburbs who over use Scott's and other yard fertilizers is one of the biggest problems. A farmer is going to have it figured mighty close, trying to keep his head above water. He can't afford to have his fertilizer be washed away. There are huge areas of the Gulf that are dead zones because of this.

But Ag does play a part in it too. Down here in Florida the Dairy farmers fought tooth and nail trying to kill the bill restricting cows from creeks and rivers. That was a tough call for the Chamber of Commerce. Rich cow farmers, or tourists swimming in shitty water. The tourists won that one. When I was a kid, we did let out cows water in the river, but then we never had more than 70-75 head in a herd. Also never had a big resort downstream.
 

MjMama

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It's not just the good stuff that is getting washed into the Big Salty. Folks in the suburbs who over use Scott's and other yard fertilizers is one of the biggest problems. A farmer is going to have it figured mighty close, trying to keep his head above water. He can't afford to have his fertilizer be washed away. There are huge areas of the Gulf that are dead zones because of this.

But Ag does play a part in it too. Down here in Florida the Dairy farmers fought tooth and nail trying to kill the bill restricting cows from creeks and rivers. That was a tough call for the Chamber of Commerce. Rich cow farmers, or tourists swimming in shitty water. The tourists won that one. When I was a kid, we did let out cows water in the river, but then we never had more than 70-75 head in a herd. Also never had a big resort downstream.
So much goes into it but the modern ag business is a huge contributer. Not just purchased fertilizers, but nitrates from manure running off huge feed lots. The old pasture raised beef, done properly, could actually benefit the environment. When cows are feeding off grass and fertilizing large fields with their manure instead of having it pile up in one spot, that pushes the grasses to grow faster, which sequesters more carbon and greenhouse gasses from the air. But we abondoned the old ways that made sense and are paying the consequences. The farm I grew up on with my grandparents is nothing like the mass production systems we have today. I think more, small farms instead of a few huge farms would help is be better stewards of the land.

Im confident we can find ways to balance the needs of farmers and the needs to tourists and residents. That's why I'm going to school for sustainable ag. I'm going to save the world.
 

treemansbuds

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Im having a hard time narrowing down my strains. What would you keep if you had to chose just 6? Strong scent/flavor and pest resistance and top proirities. Yield matters but not as much as quality and flavor. I love Sour and OG the strains.

Sour Diesel (club cut)
Sour Diesel (420 BBQ cut)
Girl Scout Cookies
Gorilla Glue #4
Grand Master Kush
Grape Ape
Yumboldt 47
CandyTrain
Photon Blaster (my own cross and my biggest plant).

I've never had Yumboldt or CandyTrain. I'm kind of leaning away from the Grape Ape because it can be a flat high and lower yield.
Hey Mama-
I bread the Grand Master Kush (GDP X Master Kush cross was bread to the SR-71 male)and I vote for her to be in your garden. High yields, big, fat frosty stinky buds. She's one of my regulars every year. I know nothing of the other strains you mentioned.
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Larry {the} Gardener

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Im confident we can find ways to balance the needs of farmers and the needs to tourists and residents. That's why I'm going to school for sustainable ag. I'm going to save the world.
Glad you are picking up my slack. I used to try to tell folks what was going on. It took a long time, but I got over my truth telling problem. These days I just talk to the garden cats. They will listen sometimes.
 

getawaymountain

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I heard the kelp meal is in short supply this year and the prices were marked up. Not sure if that was bullshit marketing to push people to buy "before it runs out" or if there truly is a shortage. Regardless, it's great stuff. I envy people who live close enough to the ocean to harvest it themselves.

I've been learning a lot about the cycle nutrients go through in the entire world, from the soil, to gasses in the air, and in the oceans. A lot of the fertility from land is being fast tracked to the ocean since we created streets and sewer systems that catch and eliminate water instead of letting it seep into the ground naturally. The water takes nutrients with it out of the soil and deposits it in the ocean. Kelp (and fish) accumulate those nutrients and provide a way we can harvest them and bring them back onto land to complete the cycle.
we use ascophyllum nodosum seaweed a lot here in coastal maine we hand harvested this in 30 minutes this morning
 

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Larry {the} Gardener

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we use ascophyllum nodosum seaweed a lot here in coastal maine we hand harvested this in 30 minutes this morning
I have a 5-7 acre pond that is grown up in grasses, lily pads and a moss looking kind of plant. When I was a kid, we would ferry a weighted bed frame out on a boat, then pull it ashore with the tractor. This was to clear a spot for swimming, but we did disc in the big pile of soupy mess and grow a garden in it. Always did good, but then the dirt is really black by the pond, unlike the sand just about everywhere else on the farm. I might see about doing something like that this summer. I just need the days to be longer, and a helper or two.
 

MjMama

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Hey Mama-
I bread the Grand Master Kush (GDP X Master Kush cross was bread to the SR-71 male)and I vote for her to be in your garden. High yields, big, fat frosty stinky buds. She's one of my regulars every year. I know nothing of the other strains you mentioned.
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I never questioned whether I would run that one. I got 3 clones of her, gifted one to a friend, kept one for my outdoor, and will probably light dep the last one for an early sample. She is such a robust and healthy strain.
 

MjMama

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....These days I just talk to the garden cats. They will listen sometimes.
One of professors spent the last class this semester talking about how weed growers are leading the push for change in a lot of ways. We learn ways to grow better/cleaner pot and then apply that science to regular gardening. That's what got me into organics and living a healthier lifestyle in general. Nothing like other drugs that lead people's health into the gutter.
 
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