Mixing Advanced Nutrients... Properly!!!

Izoc666

Izoc666

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patlpp said:
When did I say AN was the shit? All I did was prove you have your head up your ass. The Metals thing . Where am I wrong? The Nute N-P-K ratio post. Where am I wrong. Urea - where am I wrong. The PH-Perfect directions - Where was I wrong? Obviously your reading comprehension is that of a fungus gnat.

That is a common ignoramus comeback to accuse someone of working for AN. The accusation means your are stretching and are at a loss., much like when the grammar police comes out.

You piss on AN about price and all it's additives then post about Canna with you buying much of their lineup. You must be either rich or one dumb ass motherfucker, or both. Substra, Bio,Coco a/b, PK 13/14, Rhizo. WTF? Sensi,Voodoo,overdrive,B-52 see the pattern? BOTH companies are out for the buck. I , however, will get my money back if I want LOL LOL LOL. YOU were a pussy and not man enough to get one?
Also, the coco specific nutes are a crock of marketing shit ok? Prime your coco with cal/mag. problem solved. You amaze me with your blatant ignorance. Quit trying to save face and drop it, you are embarrassing yourself.

Oh and fuck you. Betty is not a slut, she is just young and needs the money. You are so judgmental.
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Hi-Hater-pid150-3937.jpgfirst fo all, i just read this thread , it was most friendly thread ever till you came...and no one in here bashing AN products. As for this OP , asking for help with mixing etc and AzCannaMan was just helping some AN users to mixing proper...and i dont see any of your advice in here expect, running your mouth, that was not helpful. Have some respect for this OP and everyone. people will be greatly appreicate to hear your advice, not that best proudcts or whatever. Do you have any tip for mixing nutrient proper for AN users ? thanks.

happy gardening and peace
 
KrAzY80

KrAzY80

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Damn shit getting heated. One thing i picked out of this is patlpp has not even finished a test grow with the ph perfect yet and in my opionion shouldnt be defending its results prematurly. He also has not replied back to one complaint regarding the non ph perfect which means either he knows it is shit or hasnt used it. Im know master but I have been using a/n for 2 yrs now and have tried alot of methods with multiple strains and I have not had a grow that i did not run into problems with. I faithfully used just a/n lineup intil the last few grows and just started mixing dyna grow supplements into lineup and I have had better results than ever. If a nute is medium specific than shouldnt they tell you what to use it for?
From what i understand about urea is that it takes time to metabolize which to me means I will eventually have more or less n than what I mixed up do to not knowing when or how it is going to break down which might be why I have n toxicity and defeciency at the same time after a few days.

To me this is about the cost, ease of use and hoe complete A/n nutes are. Not speculation on the ph perfect lineup. Alot of time is invested in a grow start to finish and I think its real shitty when that I an dropping a shit ton more money on my grow than most and my results are fair at best compared to most othets spending alot less. I have been thinking it was me for along time until I see more and more that ppl are having the exact same problems as me and noone can figure it out. Like canna man said yhe proof is in the pudding
 
KrAzY80

KrAzY80

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For the record i dont think this blogs intentions were to bash a/n's line, and I know mine were not. I was looking for some other method I havent tried and a better understanding of what I am using. Canna man and others were providing helpful tips and guidelines in order to achieve that and I can feel their frustration after putting so much into what they do and still run into a wall. Given that and the fact he went out and purchased another line andof nutes and bam all of sudden he sees better results mid flower the first time he used it. I think I would be very opinionated as well ic i did the same right now after how much I have tried to figure it out. I want a/ns shit to work and so do many others.

What i cant wrap my head around is how A/N can spend all this money for marketing and tell in detail why there product is superior but their damn scientist cant provide a proper calculator or explain to customers how to use each product. Maybe some do's and dont's or give a minimum amount to use along with a maximum so customers dont ruin their grow. Seems like a better strategy unless the product isnt superior and is designed specifically to profit double or triple the amount as competitors only through not giving all the innformation needed. They only need a 3rd of customer base to compete financiallythis way.

But wait we are suppose to just do what they say and dont question anything and all will be good. Hell lets just throw away ppm pens because some random person that says they work for them says so because he has stock options and hasnt finished a grow with their new line. We dont need to know what were doing, what fun would that be. Im sorry but I just cant buy into that and i wouldnt be planning my retirement on A/N stock because all i see anymore is a bunch of disatified customers which is sure to grow more as it has in the last few yrs I have been paying attention.
 
patlpp

patlpp

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KrAzY80 said:
But wait we are suppose to just do what they say and dont question anything and all will be good. Hell lets just throw away ppm pens because some random person that says they work for them says so because he has stock options and hasnt finished a grow with their new line. We dont need to know what were doing, what fun would that be. Im sorry but I just cant buy into that and i wouldnt be planning my retirement on A/N stock because all i see anymore is a bunch of disatified customers which is sure to grow more as it has in the last few yrs I have been paying attention.
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The literature for PH-Perfect states you do not need a PH or TDM meter, not just my opinion.


The fact you take the stock option joke seriously and think I work for AN and have stock options, indicates to me your mental faculties are limited. So further conversation, with you reading and comprehending it, are futile.
 
patlpp

patlpp

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Izoc666 said:
Have some respect for this OP and everyone. people will be greatly appreicate to hear your advice, not that best proudcts or whatever. Do you have any tip for mixing nutrient proper for AN users ? thanks.

happy gardening and peace
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I do have respect for the OP, that's why I brought up the PH-Perfect stuff. Mixing as suggested is wrong and all points brought up against the line were wrong so I corrected tactfully until terms like "steaming pile of shit" and "retarded" came up. This is an AN thread and the OP asked how to mix: Answer: 4ml/2ml.
 
KrAzY80

KrAzY80

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I can see this is going nowhere:wall:. Do you even grow or are you just bored and like to belittle people on your spare time. It does make sense that A/N would hire you given this enlightening conversation we have had the past couple of days. By the way this isnt how to use Ph perfect post. If you want to let everyone know how to do so than maybe you should start a thread with a title that says How to properly mix PH Perfect Nutrients by following the directions. They dont offer Ph perfect in my area and alot of other areas so I am not interested in how to use them.

I enjoy learning and challenges which is why I do what I do, I dont do it for bragging rights or to make other people feel inferior by putting myself above anyone. Everyone has their opinion and every right to question anything even if the bottles tells you so. Me personally I try to only take advice from people that give it from experience, facts and trial and error which is what lead me to this post in the first place. I usually dont do much posting, I just read and read because their is always someone like patlpp that just wants to stir shit up and deviate the conversation into a pissing match or their is a Mr. Know It All with a ton of advice but hasnt even completed a grow. This kind of stuff is just confusing people more and gets in the way of progress.
 
patlpp

patlpp

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Well thank you for trying reeeeel hard and finally understanding that I do not work for AN. I certainly hope you were enlightened, i doubt you understand any of the facts I presented though. If you would note, the thread is an AN thread, not an "AN sucks ass, it has metals in it, mix it this way,not the proper way, buy canna, big mike is a dick." thread like so many others. Everything was fine until I bruised an ego and was called names. I grow, see post 88 since you don't have any form of retention. I have numerous other AN and other vendor grows. So just drop this shit ok?
 
Sensibowl

Sensibowl

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patlpp said:
Whatever ...... How old are you again? Nice nug for $1000.
Yea it was nice and friendly till this "FUCKING FAGGOT" came along and proved you wrong and embarrassed you. Your reaction shows an ostensible emotional disorder, get help.
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Agreed. That sort of name calling is unnecessary and not helpful to anyone reading this forum.

And really, I'm not going to take anything that guy said seriously. Show me your facts, not how douchey you are.

Thanks for reasonable facts and arguments. You're someone to trust. And there are so few people to trust on these boards.
 
patlpp

patlpp

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Moon Dog said:
In an effort to return to spirit of the original post. I came across this for the OP to checkout. Good tip for sure. I work this way and it has always worked out well for me.
http://www.cheapadvancednutrients.com/Measuring-Up-How-to-Mix-Nutrients_b_5.html
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The only problem I have with this method is you should add the base first or after a silicon additive because say you add your supps first and just need a small portion of base. What you have done is deprived the solution of micro-nutes supplied by the base. The key is proportions; the nutes should be mixed in the same proportions as directed to prevent this problem. If you mix too heavy, all you have to do is add water. So as an alternative method, mix your soup with 90% of the water in the prescribed proportions than measure, add water , measure. That is how nute companies prefer you do it usually. A special case would be Silicon, Somewhere I read you should add silicon first for some reason. I'll find out why.
 
Izoc666

Izoc666

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patlpp said:
A special case would be Silicon, Somewhere I read you should add silicon first for some reason. I'll find out why.
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Silicon, its really depend on what company make this fertilizer, for example, Dyna-Gro recommend to add pro tekt first, and GroTet recommend to add Silicon last...just read the direction on the back label of any silicon fertilizer.

happy gardening
 
patlpp

patlpp

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you big bully. I cry now. Let's check my give a shit meter.....nope , no movement (except my bowels when I think of you.) Hugs and kisses.
 
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