Men under 30 have been unintentionally brought up as libertarians

So, My brother was watching Michael Moore of all things the other night, Bowling for Columbine, I'd thought Id join him for a laugh and perhaps some insight or foresight, what have you, anyway.....something struck me about the way that this generation was brought up, Police presence in their schools, Fear of the Government and imaginary threats, but what did this really teach our kids especially the men as they grew up in this world with 'The man' bearing down on them. They tried to raise them as sheep, as people who would give up their liberty at the drop of a hat for security. Instead they created in the men as they grew older, stronger, and wiser - they developed a hunger for freedom, a passion for justice, and a disdain for the government.

They tried to raise this generation to accept fear but the strong men have done the opposite. The 20-30 year old men of this time are more libertarian then ever, more distant from the politicians. This is why the 'young flock to Ron Paul'...This is why I have faith that this generation will put an end to this tyranny eventually, This is why I have hope that the people reclaim this great nation. The desire for liberty and freedom is stronger than ever in america with this new generation, and with widespread freedom of information the world is changing, corruption is being exposed at every corner of the globe. The establishment has essentially shot themselves in the foot on this one.

Reclaim from whom, exactly?

Cute...IDK maybe..bankers and con-men? Whoever runs this joint, its not us, I'm really being very primitive here - and philosophical...Im writing about restoring the American Dream...not trying to be witty or cool or something, its just some insight I had from the Michael Moore movie when I go back and think about the police presence in the schools and how this generation was brought up.

Just think about this invisible terrorist threat that has been going on for so long that it has impacted an entire generation greatly. Whats your thoughts on that?

Do you recall the police and metal detectors in schools, SWAT TEAMS, etc.....I surmise that It has ruined a lot of peoples lives actually, but also it has bred us to be libertarian because of our desire for freedom which stems from disdain toward the government and officials.

* i dont think i'll ever be stoned enough to watch "Michael Moore"... *cough duechebag *cough

--cheers

The fact that we owed so much coming into this life also contributes to disdain for the government, you owe at least 40,000K when you hit 18 these days...Not complaining but...just pointing that out... A lot of things contribute to this disdain.

* i feel ya on that, i hope for better days for future generations.. i wish nothing but good .. Hope

As someone who is under 30 and is obviously not a libertarian, I disagree with your premise.

Also, since when was polling at 7% any kind of youth movement? I remember 2008 quite vividly, don't you? I remember when Obama came to Portland:


I wonder how many will show up for Ron Paul?


Obama Draws crowd of 75,000 in Portland

Nothing better then to emphasize this fact that the government and banks are not your friends the first time they screw you, that happens at age 16-20 these days....these bankers are predators and they are all powerful.

@mame
Well my quote from Ron Paul was from NPR. To deny that there is not a liberty youth movement is quite ridiculous, There is a worldwide liberty movement, have you not been made aware of this? Its not just about a politician.

Europe, Africa, Asia, The Middle East, Australia, South America, Central America, Anonymous, The Fed, Ron Paul, The TEA Party, The internet, Wikileaks, Any of that ring a bell?

If there is, it's not for Ron Paul - not as long as he polls at 7%.

If you're referring to uprisings in the middle east, sure I guess you could call that a liberty movement but it's not really connected at all; They're trying to overthrow dictatorships... We've got problems but they're really not on the same level at all.

your right its not on the same level, but its still there, we've got it all right here. Corruption is live and well.

and btw Ron Paul is polling at 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8%, 9%, 10%, 11%, 12%, 13%, 14%, 15%, 16%, 17%, 18%,19%, 20%, 21%, 22%, 23%, 24%, 25%, 26%, 27%, 29%, 31%, 37%, 41%, 42%, 43%, 44%, 59%, 60%, 61%, 63%, 65%, 67%, 71%, 72%, and 89% In polling if you want to get technical......so hmm what determination can we come to from "poll" numbers.....not a god damn thing. 7% of who or what? Can we please just stay on topic and not make this about politicians campaigns? Sorry I mentioned Ron Paul but it is relevant, now go back to watching AC360

well i read your entire post and i didnt understand any of it except younger guys were raised different. im stoned out my mind and i dont know what a libertarian is or whatever. but i kind of get the drift of what your saying. i do agree that not only the men but the whole generation was raised different and its not positive in my eyes. there are about 10% of people under the age of 30 who have an understanding of whats really going on and think differently then most people. then you have the average person whos insecure and gullible and who are misled by different things (parents, politics, school) im 27 years old and i was raised old school. i took the whoopin and it hurt. nowadays theres kids out there if the parent tries to whoop them they call the cops because the school taught them to call the cops if they were being hurt. if i called the cops cuz my dad gave me a whoopin i would get the whoopin of a life after the cops left. i think the lack of parenting and discipline in the last generation has vanished and therefore young people are making bad decisions based on their upbringings

heathaa said:

well i read your entire post and i didnt understand any of it except younger guys were raised different. im stoned out my mind and i dont know what a libertarian is or whatever. but i kind of get the drift of what your saying. i do agree that not only the men but the whole generation was raised different and its not positive in my eyes. there are about 10% of people under the age of 30 who have an understanding of whats really going on and think differently then most people. then you have the average person whos insecure and gullible and who are misled by different things (parents, politics, school) im 27 years old and i was raised old school. i took the whoopin and it hurt. nowadays theres kids out there if the parent tries to whoop them they call the cops because the school taught them to call the cops if they were being hurt. if i called the cops cuz my dad gave me a whoopin i would get the whoopin of a life after the cops left. i think the lack of parenting and discipline in the last generation has vanished and therefore young people are making bad decisions based on their upbringings

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What libertarian is and is not:
http://freedomftw.net/2011/07/what-a-libertarian-is-and-is-not-stumbleupon/

"Men under 30 have been unintentionally brought up as libertarians"

Happens almost every generation, it comes from being a Republican/ Conservative who wants to get laid and smoke weed. It sounds great but most are uninformed voters who do not realize the real life issues that come with pure Libertarian doctrine.

Individual freedoms are one thing , but when you add the economic policies they say will interfere with those liberties it ends up neo anarchy and in fact there is a large portion of libertarians that are in fact self admitted anarchists.

deprave said:

and btw Ron Paul is polling at 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8%, 9%, 10%, 11%, 12%, 13%, 14%, 15%, 16%, 17%, 18%,19%, 20%, 21%, 22%, 23%, 24%, 25%, 26%, 27%, 29%, 31%, 37%, 41%, 42%, 43%, 44%, 59%, 60%, 61%, 63%, 65%, 67%, 71%, 72%, and 89% In polling if you want to get technical......so hmm what determination can we come to from "poll" numbers.....not a god damn thing. 7% of who or what? Can we please just stay on topic and not make this about politicians campaigns? Sorry I mentioned Ron Paul but it is relevant, now go back to watching AC360

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what polls does he garner 89% at?

That is very narrow minded to say that it comes from Republicans who want to smoke weed, actually it hilarious, was that a joke?

UncleBuck said:

what polls does he garner 89% at?

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Do I really need to post this again? Or Can we keep that in the Ron Paul thread? Actually I deleted it yesterday cause it was in my porn folder somehow. You'll just have to google this for yourself for once, the url is http://www.google.com if you need a link

I grew up in the 70's and nobody has been listening for the last 40 years... We have been bitching about corporations, LEO and much more forever. This is not a new issue.

No it was not a joke, the part about getting laid was.

If you do not understand economics come back after you get some schooling, Libertarian personal freedoms OWN, I am all for them. BUT, if you want to live in a civilized society a large portion of libertarian economic doctrine will make this shitty situation even worse.

Personal freedoms : Proud Libertarian

Economic policy : Proud Democratic Socialist (that is not a communist, or a true socialist.) (do not mistake it for a socialist democracy) It is more along the lines of Germany, Netherlands, France and yes Canada

And yes, they do work well together.