Maybe John Kennedy's driver William Greer shot him with an air pistol

I did not crack the Da Vinci Code here. It's totally obvious that Greer fired the fatal shot.

The fake reflection causes the headshot by working in perfect sync with the fake blood mist.

In the nix film the headshot happens at the exact moment Greer's arm goes over his right shoulder which mirrors the altered zapruder film. It's that easy in a cartoon sort of way because that's exactly what the zfilm is, a cartoon of the driver shooting Kennedy.

7 forever how do you explain that there were several copies made of this film by zapruder and only 1 copy was given to the feds the other copies were in different secret locations therefore the video could not have been doctored as you say


what a fool you look like, the reflection is a fake and your brain is a simple bead




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There is an image of a gun and the reflection is FAKE and you cannot prove otherwise.

If you claim you can then do so and quit going in circles and cough up anything besides simple denial of facts.

i think we're all missing the obvious. in that last video we saw what could only have been bigfoot in a housecoat. finally proof of this elusive creature's existence and a possible link to the assassinations of several of our past presidents. it's obviously a plot hatched by the bigfoot community to destabilize our country by eliminating specific presidents over the years. i'm not sure what they had against mckinley, but i really think someone should look into it.

undertheice said:

i think we're all missing the obvious. in that last video we saw what could only have been bigfoot in a housecoat. finally proof of this elusive creature's existence and a possible link to the assassinations of several of our past presidents. it's obviously a plot hatched by the bigfoot community to destabilize our country by eliminating specific presidents over the years. i'm not sure what they had against mckinley, but i really think someone should look into it.

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damn you figured it out... and I thought we were fucked when big sass fucked up the reagan assassination in 81'

maybe its not over, well just lob a few boulders at undertheice's house.. send a yeti blackout squad into canada to eliminate the rollitup staff and confiscate the servers.. this will never get out. trace the ip addresses of every viewer of this post and threaten them with sure bigfoot stomping should they talk and that should do it. back to my lair atop mount rainier...

you're screwed, the plot has finally been uncovered. we're onto you now and we know just how to thwart your evil plans. we'll eradicate you filthy, hairy beasts and our country will be saved. well, maybe we'll wait 'til you've taken care of that oaf we've got in the white house right now and then we'll stop you.

What I know is my work has proven Greer's guilt far beyond any reasonable doubt. Any jury would choose this over any other theory because it makes sense while every other is either totally baseless or crumbles under scrutiny like the grassy knoll. I can't explain everything nor can any prosecutor or investigator.

There will always be unanswered questions and even some anomalies but the case against Greer makes sense and hangs together every step of the way. They did their best at that time to cover-up Greer shooting but the technology was so far from being capable of even doing a half assed job. The alteration to the film is a complete joke making it totally obvious when anyone decided to expose it.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/59wit.htm
Agent Greer to the FBI 11/22/63: "Greer stated that he first heard what he thought was possibly a motorcycle backfire and glanced around and noticed that the President had evidently been hit [notice that, early on, Greer admits seeing JFK, which the Zapruder proves he did two times before the fatsal head shot occurred]. He thereafter got on the radio and communicated with the other vehicles, stating that they desired to get the President to the hospital immediately [in reality, Greer did not talk on the radio, and Greer went on to deny ever saying this during his WC testimony]…Greer stated that they (the Secret Service) have always been instructed to keep the motorcade moving at a considerable speed inasmuch as a moving car offers a much more difficult target than a vehicle traveling at a very slow speed. He pointed out that on numerous occasions he has attempted to keep the car moving at a rather fast rate, but in view of the President's popularity and desire to maintain close liaison with the people, he has, on occasion, been instructed by the President to "slow down". Greer stated that he has been asking himself if there was any thing he could have done to have avoided this incident, but stated that things happened so fast that he could not account for full developments in this matter(!) [the "JFK-as-scapegoat" theme…and so much for Greer's remorse from earlier the same day!]."(Sibert & O'Neil Report, 11/22/63)

Agent Greer to the FBI 11/27/63: "…he heard a noise which sounded like a motorcycle backfire. On hearing this noise he glanced to his right toward Kellerman and out of the corner of his eye noticed that the Governor appeared to be falling toward his wife [notice that Greer now mentions nothing about seing JFK hit---he does the same thing in his undated report in the WC volumes (18 H 723)] He thereafter recalls hearing some type of outcry after which Kellerman said, "Let's get out of here." He further related that at the time of hearing the sound he was starting down an incline which passes beneath a railroad crossing and after passing under this viaduct, he closed in on the lead car and yelled to the occupants and a nearby police motorcyclist, "Hospital, Hospital! [nothing about using the radio this time out]" Thereafter follows a complete physical description of Greer, as if the FBI agents considered him a suspect, inc. age, height, and color of eyes! (Sibert & O'Neil Report, 11/29/63)

Greer realized several days later how incriminating his actions were and lied. HE WAS A STUPID GOON.

Go for it. You've done some excellent research.

Thanks. That may be the best compliment I've gotten.

You've earned a compliment. Your material stands well enough, you could present it in a non-editorial way. I think a non-editorial presentation of the material you've gathered will heighten its overall positive possibility of stirring peoples' minds to think for themselves, whether they agree or disagree with the evidence you supply.

Disagreeing with some of the available evidence hasn't a logical leg on which to stand. Some of the video footage has been available for a long time. I was in my teens in the 60s. I remember watching the Zapruder fiasco, out of which survived the rather clear evidence that the bullet which most presumably killed Kennedy came from the front.

It's not rationally debatable. So, presenting your material "as it is" helps to strengthen the reasonability of it. Just my opinion. Best wishes to you.

Connally said he saw the fatal shot and quickly corrected himself but his reaction when looking at Greer proves he slipped up. Watch him hit the floor in horror once he realized Greer shot Kennedy.

Obviously, at least the major wound that I took in the shoulder through the chest couldn't have been anything but the second shot. Obviously, it couldn't have been the third, because when the third shot was fired I was in a reclining position, and heard it, saw it and the effects of it, rather--I didn't see it, I saw the effects of it--so it obviously could not have been the third, and couldn't have been the first, in my judgment.

7forever said:

Connally said he saw the fatal shot and quickly corrected himself but his reaction when looking at Greer proves he slipped up. Watch him hit the floor in horror once he realized Greer shot Kennedy.

Obviously, at least the major wound that I took in the shoulder through the chest couldn't have been anything but the second shot. Obviously, it couldn't have been the third, because when the third shot was fired I was in a reclining position, and heard it, saw it and the effects of it, rather--I didn't see it, I saw the effects of it--so it obviously could not have been the third, and couldn't have been the first, in my judgment.

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What do you hope to accomplish here? Nobody is buying it! I can go on to any forum and claim I have taught my dog how to talk. Doesn't make it so. If this evidence was conclusive there would be more people talking about it. There aren't. And there isn't gonna be because this isn't how it went down. I can't even believe I'm responding to this trash anymore. You can't reason with a delusional person, especially one who has so solidly convinced himself that his delusions are real no matter how many people tell him otherwise. It really is a shame. I'm glad Aznsouljah came back to troll the forum with more of this conspiracy b.s. The political forum got pretty boring when you were banned before. How long 'til they ban you this time?

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What do you hope to accomplish here? Nobody is buying it! I can go on to any forum and claim I have taught my dog how to talk. Doesn't make it so. If this evidence was conclusive there would be more people talking about it. There aren't. And there isn't gonna be because this isn't how it went down. I can't even believe I'm responding to this trash anymore. You can't reason with a delusional person, especially one who has so solidly convinced himself that his delusions are real no matter how many people tell him otherwise. It really is a shame. I'm glad Aznsouljah came back to troll the forum with more of this conspiracy b.s. The political forum got pretty boring when you were banned before. How long 'til they ban you this time?

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What do you hope to accomplish here? Everyone is seeing it but denying it! You can go on to any forum and claim you have taught your dog how to talk. If there was a defense against Greer, it would have been posed by now, it hasn't and never will come because it's always been obvious that Greer was jfk's real assassin.

The evidence is conclusive and millions will believe it but I've only posted on forums so far. And there is gonna be, because this is how it went down. I can't even believe you're responding to this if you don't believe it. You are a simple minded board troll who knows NOTHING about this case. You can't reason with a delusional person, especially one who has so solidly decided to pose simple denials of fact.

The driver shot JFK clearly and obviously but the zapruder film needed to be picked apart and analyzed by someone and that someone turned out to be me.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xesq49_jfk-assassination-films-orville-nix_news

Nix film close-up shows Greer's arm crossing over

I got this gif from this clip. Start it at 1:09 and see Greer quickly moving his left arm over his shoulder in unison with the headshot. The nix film was not shown close-up but when this sequence is zoomed in on the limo, this whopper is revealed. The goons covered those movements with fakery in the zfilm but could not or didn't bother with the nix film.


THE FAKE GREY STREAK covered Greer's arm movement in the zfilm and the nix film proves that alteration beyond any doubt. Case Closed, finally.

The driver killed Kennedy and the Nix film provides conclusive proof to this inevitable truth.
case closed

7forever said:

What do you hope to accomplish here? Everyone is seeing it but denying it! You can go on to any forum and claim you have taught your dog how to talk. If there was a defense against Greer, it would have been posed by now, it hasn't and never will come because it's always been obvious that Greer was jfk's real assassin.

The evidence is conclusive and millions will believe it but I've only posted on forums so far. And there is gonna be, because this is how it went down. I can't even believe you're responding to this if you don't believe it. You are a simple minded board troll who knows NOTHING about this case. You can't reason with a delusional person, especially one who has so solidly decided to pose simple denials of fact.

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I'm the troll??????????? Well that's interesting. I've been here for a year and a half. You've been here for 1 month. Ok, delusional is as delusional does. You're pathetic Aznsouljah!

doc, it's time to let it go. we've all seen these fanatics, posting a stream of drivel and then fading away. our online anonymity encourages the cause-heads and true believers to spout their proof, their theory and their general madness. just look at this thread as a sort of toxic waste dump, a place to post all that silliness and aggression that would otherwise infect more rational threads.

undertheice said:

doc, it's time to let it go. we've all seen these fanatics, posting a stream of drivel and then fading away. our online anonymity encourages the cause-heads and true believers to spout their proof, their theory and their general madness. just look at this thread as a sort of toxic waste dump, a place to post all that silliness and aggression that would otherwise infect more rational threads.

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Good point. Has anybody else noticed the striking similarity between Aznsouljah's posts and this person?

doc111 said:

Has anybody else noticed the striking similarity between Aznsouljah's posts and this person?

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i've found that, as i get older, they all seem the same. the victims of "conspiracy syndrome" are so predictable. much like those poor souls who insist on plastering links to zeitgeist in their every post, they have found something that seems so new and important to them and the rush of exposing "forbidden knowledge" is just too much for their delicate sensibilities.

doc111 said:

I'm the troll??????????? Well that's interesting. I've been here for a year and a half. You've been here for 1 month. Ok, delusional is as delusional does. You're pathetic Aznsouljah!

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You are surely a troll because you have no answers, just simple denial of facts. If I was wrong it would be easy to disprove the case against Greer. No challenge from anyone on any forum has been posed. It does NOT matter if you've been here for 20 years. You've trolled me and the evidence because you can't challenge it, even remotely. You've been here for 1 year. Ok, delusional is as delusional does. You're pathetic Aznsouljah!

7forever said:

You are surely a troll because you have no answers, just simple denial of facts. If I was wrong it would be easy to disprove the case against Greer. No challenge from anyone on any forum has been posed. It does NOT matter if you've been here for 20 years. You've trolled me and the evidence because you can't challenge it, even remotely. You've been here for 1 year. Ok, delusional is as delusional does. You're pathetic Aznsouljah!

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You've provided all the evidence I need with all of those videos. There is nothing visible in those grainy low quality videos. You show me one video where a gun is clearly visible and I will gladly jump on board and agree with you. You can't see anything that even remotely looks like a gun in Greer's hand. You'll be banned soon enough, so carry on.

I've provided all the evidence I need with all of those videos. There is a gun visible in the videos the government and researchers have used for decades. You will never agree with me because you don't want to...simple as that. You can see the driver place a covered up object in his left hand with his right, 4 seconds before he shoots Kennedy.

Frame 319 is the gun bleached in white that could NOT be edited out. You don't know what you're talking about, have no defense, and are posing simple denial of facts.

Go for it. You've done some excellent research.

Thanks. That may be the best compliment I've gotten.

You've earned a compliment. Your material stands well enough, you could present it in a non-editorial way. I think a non-editorial presentation of the material you've gathered will heighten its overall positive possibility of stirring peoples' minds to think for themselves, whether they agree or disagree with the evidence you supply.

Disagreeing with some of the available evidence hasn't a logical leg on which to stand. Some of the video footage has been available for a long time. I was in my teens in the 60s. I remember watching the Zapruder fiasco, out of which survived the rather clear evidence that the bullet which most presumably killed Kennedy came from the front.

It's not rationally debatable. So, presenting your material "as it is" helps to strengthen the reasonability of it. Just my opinion. Best wishes to you.