Manganese def? Organic soil grow

stoobeey said:

Foliar epsom or water in?
I think between tossing some gen org juices , fish hydrosolate, dolo lime in water, I stopped the devastation, bit will lose most fan leaves, had to take a ton of crunchies off .. oh well live and learn. 7 gal bags arriving today. And now I know in 2s and 3s, don't stop top dress feeding thru end of veg and flip.

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Foliar is best for instant work but i would water in so you know its available at all times.

You never answered why the very first pic on this thread is so dry ? Like bone dry to the point of death?

Sounds like your on the right path....

getogrow said:

Foliar is best for instant work but i would water in so you know its available at all times.

You never answered why the very first pic on this thread is so dry ? Like bone dry to the point of death?

Sounds like your on the right path....

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Oh my bad, I can't remember at this point. I can't imagine I really underwatered, as I water daily. Bit maybe some I do think I over watered at one point I had some clawing before all this other shit popped up

When i was clicking on this picture , it looked nothing like it does after downloading it and re uploading it....

This looked like extreme underwatering , now it looks more like waaay too much light combined with way too much food. Probably too much P. Hows she look now ?

EDIT: now its not even showing up....but the second pic in your first post...

getogrow said:

When i was clicking on this picture , it looked nothing like it does after downloading it and re uploading it....

This looked like extreme underwatering , now it looks more like waaay too much light combined with way too much food. Probably too much P. Hows she look now ?

EDIT: now its not even showing up....but the second pic in your first post...

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She's a foot below 680w full spectrum.

Lights back on at 7pm I'll upload a photo then.

stoobeey said:

She's a foot below 680w full spectrum.

Lights back on at 7pm I'll upload a photo then.

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as i suspected....way too much light for your conditions. 680 @1ft is extremely intense light. She would love you if you raised it to 3ft.

getogrow said:

as i suspected....way too much light for your conditions. 680 @1ft is extremely intense light. She would love you if you raised it to 3ft.

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Odd haven't had any problems with any other strains at 12 to 16" in flower. Bit easy fix to pull the light up. Temp is in hi end of 70s usually. 40% rh

Now I did try 6" on my first runs under it and got foxtailing on my autos

getogrow said:

as i suspected....way too much light for your conditions. 680 @1ft is extremely intense light. She would love you if you raised it to 3ft.

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Side note company recommends 12" for full power under flower and I think 24 to 36" and not full power for veg (which I don't use it for anyway. Running 240w on 4x qb120s. Which I'm still trying to figure distance between what will force some stretch vs closer nodes)

getogrow said:

as i suspected....way too much light for your conditions. 680 @1ft is extremely intense light. She would love you if you raised it to 3ft.

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Lost another grip if leaves today bit that was expected. Raising the light now, edit, raised bit not enough clearance for 3'. I'm at 16" . My autos I'd I out em on ground will be 3' bit I got no issues with them sitting 16 to 18 away sitting on milkcrates (added s photo for reference)

stoobeey said:

Lost another grip if leaves today bit that was expected. Raising the light now, edit, raised bit not enough clearance for 3'. I'm at 16" . My autos I'd I out em on ground will be 3' bit I got no issues with them sitting 16 to 18 away sitting on milkcrates (added s photo for reference)

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Well going by your other plants ....its just a picky pheno. She was way overfed so im assuming the soil is all outta wack and its still not recovered.
I would worry more about keeping the new ones healthy and green at this point and let the ugly one just finish out. Its almost too late to even try to fix that plant. it will just go into foxtail mode if you were to fix it.

GTFOH . Clueless kooks

Dude get a soil test. If your light on K sul po mag application is way low. It's just as likely you have an excess rather than a deficiency.

These f'en idiots posting shit, sit the fuck down, stfu

hotrodharley said:

hotrodharley said:

A molecule of calcium nitrate is a molecule of calcium nitrate whether it came from a bottle or a chicken’s asshole.

Refine chicken manure into its individual components and you’ll find mineral salts. A mineral salt is a mineral salt regardless of source. People laughing at that never took chemistry or they slept through it.

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no

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so many f'em blabbering stoner science jackasses in this thread.

hotrodharley said:

Dry organic components? Added at the time you make your medium. They do not break down quickly enough to solve a deficiency.

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no

getogrow said:

They cant eat if they are starving of moisture.

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no

Wattzzup said:

You’re watering your soil daily? And stop with the RO water in organic soil. Total waste and even missing micros

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stoobeey said:

Should have been plenty of dolo lime to keep ph in check

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no

Who the fuck needs a soil test to grow a plant? You GTFOH. What a dope

Wattzzup said:

Who the fuck needs a soil test to grow a plant? You GTFOH

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Stooge, youre the guy who doesnt need paper to wipe his ass. Plus you relentlessly shit yourself.

Soil test, dont guess JA

"stop ro water" lout you dont know anything about his water but it doesnt stop you from a needless, misguided word shit. SIT THE F DOWN clown.

Soil test? To grow a plant

Maybe he should mail his plant in and have it evaluated in a lab. Then water it.

Wattzzup said:

Soil test? To grow a plant

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Soil tests are scientifically designed to grow plants, rube

Wattzzup said:

Maybe he should mail his plant in and have it evaluated in a lab. Then water it.

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Your wit is as flaccid and shit crusted as your plant/soil knowledge.

Tell the plant to stop growing while you have the soil tested

radiant Rudy said:

Soil tests are scientifically designed to grow plants, rube

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So now we know your secrets!!!

Soil test....online for 5 bucks on amazon eh ? fuckin dumbass... get outta here.

Real soil tests are great but we dont have easy access to them. labs are expensive and even more so when trying to run organics. You'll spend thousands to find out what these guys have already been telling you all along...

getogrow said:

Real soil tests are great but we dont have easy access to them. labs are expensive and even more so when trying to run organics. You'll spend thousands to find out what these guys have already been telling you all along...

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But at least you will know for sure

radiant Rudy said:

It's just as likely you have an excess rather than a deficiency.

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The op figured that out on his own, rocket appliance.