Lumigrow pro 325

Mr John said:

I have committed allot of time and money like most of us have, I have to see this through. lumbo you bought a 325 also?

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Yes, Mr. John, I did buy a 325. My thinking was to pick up a second 325 when flowering time came about. I was going to aim them on a slight angle to the right and left of the canopy center. However, the more I read the more I realized I had made a mistake and now have lost the steam to even attempt flowering with LED. I have come to believe that LED is for microgrows and for those who cannot run HID for one reason or another and are only wanting to raise a single plant.
I too will probably try to see what one plant scrogged can do before I totally give up on this thing. It is bright as hell though, but like others have said the panel is too small to be practical for energy demanding plants except for one at a time directly under the unit. Not my style, so back to the HPS I shall go.
Be safe.

Lumigrow might not be the best but it will work better than most. I have a friend using the 650 and it worked well. Just saw some pictures he sent me and it grew a nice amount. He covered a 4 x 4. Don't sweat it so much. You can always improve your setup with time

Just a few weeks and I will be starting my own 2x3 garden. Sprouting from seeds T5 HO then onto the Lumigrow when they root in good. Been pricing a 400/600 HPS setup just in case, I dont want to go that route unless I have too. Will mean having to deal with allot of heat to get rid of.

Lumbo you are right, it is bright as hell. Painful even when just glancing at it.

Sow to Grow said:

LumiGrow has a guide that shows light intensity and coverage. In that guide, if you look at the µmol values, they are clearly listed as Adjusted PAR (x2). You may have missed the unit value.



Please refer to the following chart from LumiGrow. Their published PPFD is in Adjusted PAR (x2) which normalizes the value against HID lamp spectrums. That is to say, the effective PAR value of the LumiGrow Enhanced Spectrum is twice as effective as the PAR value of an HID lamp.

Depending on the light meter, LumiGrow's published values are in line with the measurements from Growershouse.com.

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Can anyone with an inside track from LG products explain 'adjusted PAR x 2' and 'adjusted DLI'.

And re the * at the bottom, why would LG use IES (Illuminating Engineers Society) 'photopically corrected' light planning software to develop PPFD?

cough cough

Would love to know what type of LED's LG uses

I love the light I got from yieldmasterled.com they do custom lights and they have a true power rating with great even spread.

jason1976 said:

leds? why spend that kind of money on leds? its not new technology,its leds. were talkin almost a grand and some are way more, what you spend on leds you could buy quality hps lights and probably save enough money to pay for a solar panel to power them.crazy to me man....

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Doing an indoor grow and do not want to deal with the crazy heat output, plus I like to try new things out. How can we progress as a society if we remain idle and never venture out to try out new things? Even if we failed that one time we still progressed. That's why LED.

I see your point money wise, but I have a very good paying job and can afford to try it out is another reason.

Barrazaburnz said:

I love the light I got from yieldmasterled.com they do custom lights and they have a true power rating with great even spread.

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Which one did you get? Would like to see your grow when you use it

How can we progress as a society if we remain idle and never venture out to try out new things? Even if we failed that one time we still progressed. That's why LED.

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Hi John! There is nothing wrong with trying out new things and how you spend your $$ is certainly going to be your prerogative. However neither of your assertions makes it okay for a mfg to misstate their products performance ratings by equating it to HPS in terms of how it will perform in a side by side by using invented testing criteria. Even if it's not about the money, which for most of us it is, it's still lost time spent on a run that didn't have a chance if the specifications were embellished.

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I've seen impressive gardens using low wattage/heat LED panels. My issues here are not with LED grow lights but with a mfg who would put forth specifications, such as this LG chart where unit-less, vague and misleading characteristics such as 'PAR x 2' and 'Adjusted DLI' and incredible overstatements are made where, for example, they claim their 325 watt panel will produce 42.3 Moles/Day over a 25 sq ft area which of course is nonsense.

It's publishing data like this that will give LED grow lights a bad reputation since the results will fail to live up to the hyper-advertised claims and as the comment shows below, the technology as a whole gets painted with the same broad brush.

I realized I had made a mistake and now have lost the steam to even attempt flowering with LED. I have come to believe that LED is for microgrows and for those who cannot run HID for one reason or another and are only wanting to raise a single plant.
I too will probably try to see what one plant scrogged can do before I totally give up on this thing. It is bright as hell though, but like others have said the panel is too small to be practical for energy demanding plants except for one at a time directly under the unit. Not my style, so back to the HPS I shall go.

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chazbolin good point and I agree it is not Ok to lie and deceit the public. Sorry took so long getting back but got busy preparing to leave Afghanistan for good and head home. Since I invested to much I am going to give the LG a run at it, gonna grow only 4 c99 plants and see how things go. I got my eye on indi grow 420 induction light maybe in the future. I cannot use HID due the heat and my growing tent setup and all. Gonna start a journal during my grow to keep those folks that are interested updated.

I have been using my LG 650 for a couple rounds now, actually produces (maybe not like a 1000w) but probably better than with my 600... I am not unhappy with my purchase, the penetration is actually pretty good as well. I have it in a 4x4, and I agree its too many watts for such a small panel... Around the same time, I got an area 51 160, and I just like the white LEDs better, just more pleasant for me to work around. I know the LG has the switch, but I still have to look at it at times... So the new Area 51's and the AT 600's may be in my near future. Just don't know what to do with all these old lights!

BTW, I purchased my LG in March of 2013, and I got it for under $1200. Deals can be had if you work it a bit!

puffenuff said:

I'd love to see some pics of those lumigrow pro 325's in action. Post something up if you can!

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First grow and I'm using the pro 325. They just sprouted roots. I fucked up a few different ways early on but they seem to be doing better than they were last week.

MouseE said:

First grow and I'm using the pro 325. They just sprouted roots. I fucked up a few different ways early on but they seem to be doing better than they were last week.

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Not a pro(white), old es330 model is in blue (ledengin?)

Alpha & Omega said:

Yo dude.
Lumi grow were one of the first LEDs I had read about many years ago that actually had proof that they worked.
Lumini Grow in china, as far as I know, are their supplier.
Now Lumini Grow (china) are actually selling these types of LEDs now.
ive seen the whole ranges test results so far & they are Good lights & also can be controlled by a wired controller or a wireless one,
Very similar looking aswell to lumi versions without the dial, big and blue. lol
Who copied who? who cares?
As long as your happy with it bro, that's all that matters.
Best of luck with ya grow, but one work of advice dude, lift her up and get some reflective sheeting around them,
that's why they are leaning a bit imo.
Peace.

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lumigrow is a CA based company that builds on site, lumini is a chinese knockoff whos casing is similar.........lumigrow PRO uses osram, lumini uses unknown diodes==== big difference

MrRobbyRob said:

I have been using my LG 650 for a couple rounds now, actually produces (maybe not like a 1000w) but probably better than with my 600... I am not unhappy with my purchase, the penetration is actually pretty good as well. I have it in a 4x4, and I agree its too many watts for such a small panel... Around the same time, I got an area 51 160, and I just like the white LEDs better, just more pleasant for me to work around. I know the LG has the switch, but I still have to look at it at times... So the new Area 51's and the AT 600's may be in my near future. Just don't know what to do with all these old lights!

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From what I've read and experienced, I've used lush and Cali light works as well as 315cmh, most of it comes down to spectrum, and ppfd, Ive ran around a few maximum yield shows with my ppfd/par meter and a lot of the led company's focus on how bright the lights are to the naked eye as a sales point, lush was the only company at any show to actually have a ppfd meter on hand as well as Sun systems, who makes the 315lec cmh (they make a double bulb 630 and a 630 with a DE HID in the center as well) is super dim to the naked eye but has high ppfd readings with a smaller footprint than my leds, i get more resin from the dimmer lec lamps or the LEDs, than I ever did with regular solis tek hid 600 wattrs. At the end of the month I want my power bill low and my trichome density high, and in my experience that's spectrum, low relative humidity, and systemic resistances in a healthy plant. Seems like a lot of people don't pay attention to the inverse square law either, at 1ft you get full light, 2ft 1/4 of the light, not sure how that affects lensed LEDs in terms of penetration though

Wow its been a minute. I still have my Lumi 650, and she is plugging away, but currently in my veg tent. But its not that I was unhappy with it in flower, not at all. Just has to do with the particular space H had to work with... long story... But I do have 2 of the SunSystem LEC units in my DR150W flower tent, whicj is approximately 3' x 5'. I previously had my Lumi in a 4x4 tent, but its not a comfortable depth to work in. I now prefer smaller plants that are easier to access and move. So the 650 is a way overpowered veg light in a 3x3 tent... But I think I may do a run of some auto seed freebies I've been accumulating, so she may shine bright again!