long veg for mature THC?

kiwi

Active Member
I always herd you were suposed to wait for alternating nodes with seed plants before you switch them to flower.Kiwi.
 

hd deuce

Member
Thanks For Everyone's Imput.
just started this as a R&D experiment

going to veg
til 6 inches
then 2 months
and 3 month veg

then test using th eGC method

all taking from clones from same mom

all in same room same light for each

time will tell

ill post wen complete
 

18B

Well-Known Member
it does take between 55 and 60 days for a seed plant to mature from the time of the seed pop.. Now I do know this matters in the cases of hermaphroditism frequencies but as far as THC potency that very well could be affected as well but many times people that grow long flowering sativas flower them a week or two after seed pop...and it is common practice
 

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
the dunce hat was more related to this...
"then test using th eGC method

all taking from clones from same mom "
explain ;)


not necessarily your lack of understanding the production of thc and other compounds within the vesicle etc and well im sure ill get to that after your next response
 
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hd deuce

Member
the dunce hat was more related to this...
"then test using th eGC method

all taking from clones from same mom "
explain ;)


not necessarily your lack of understanding the production of thc and other compounds within the vesicle
it was an obvious typo

grow out clones from same mum sell explanatory isn't it

simply put ,,,,



take 3 clippings all from the same mother plant

and all variables the same lights nutes etc...



only difference would be ................time vegged


plant #1 veg oil 6 inches

#2 2months

#3 3 months


after grow test using GC

see what results show
 

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
right and how old is said mother.....
obviously old enough to determine sex?
or...what process was used, in your mind once the plant reaches maturity what else is changing?
 

hd deuce

Member
here lies the issue

with all internet communication no checks in place to keep people from being less than respectable

wtf is this a quiz

just because i don't boast about production etc,,, means im a moron

id love to get u in the same room

u have what i call little man in car syndrome

everybody is a smart ass behind the wheel at 60mph and behind the screen in which u enj=oy to throw out cheeky comments

have ever heard its not nice to boast

do u want to know my reality so u feel less about yours

whats your game here ?

what kind of a plain stupid and presumptuous question

dude

to answer you ,,,,, she was grow from her moms tissue culture to regain here vigour etc>>>>>

9 months old now

are u asking me how i determine sex hmmm isn't that the first thing most people discover that is a fundamental need

as I've never used feminized seeds

listen up you mouthy fuk

dare u to take me up on my offer , let me know where you live
please
i want to give u a first hand session is the ouch game

ur so smart

what ur financial future

what assets have u accumulated

what size of grow do you have

how much weight do u put out every 8weeks

cus i know damn well ur not in a money spot to afford 15-18 week
malawi grows

so u smoke the easy ass indica ya ya personally i don't smoke a lot how can one be stoned continuously and function to the point where as to succeed if one choses a profession that require one to have all his meant l faculties and to be on top of ones game

in addition im a father i chose my family over continuous stones not that i don't
but now my daughter is older im not in the position to be high


plus at one time i was like you i was so high so long being sober now is like being high i quite rather enjoy a sharp mind



hmmm

u want to know skill

fuk dude anybody can be a good grower the net has made sure of that

but the net aint gonna help ur broke ass argumentative attitude

how many cups in spain have u attended

time and money is all it takes to be good in this game

as more money = more grows = more mistakes = more learning = more success

id say I've picked the brains of the most successful growers out there



heres the thing no matter how i reply u can always say prove it

do u want pics is that it
id never expose my situation in that way

even my daughter at 6 years of age knew to say " stay on the low daddy ,stay on the low"

as for pic anybody can falsify all burden of proof

but heres the kicker not if the person sending the pis put a personal message in the picture

yours are are coming my friend

by the time im done with you u will be embarrassed and belittled

is that the thing i should do

absolutely not

ur obviously young and what example should all respectable people give in their world including yourself

if my daughter ever bought wind of even this conversation she would be utterly disappointed in me every body want their parents to nee of the utmost moral character


so heres my advice

how about being friendly humble and helpful

as for my experiment its not to improve my thc % im happy at 28% thc

my experiment was simply to do what others can't afford to do so if im lucky enough to have the funds why would ny i fid a gap in th want to know compartment of all growers

what approach will make the most production and potent bud

i am only doing my experiment with helpful intentions so don't one so contrite

i have the funds to answer the question posed
combine that with i just want to know = why not

i can tell you I've tested almost every light vs the chinese version

and the 630 CMH from china stood side by side with nanolux

on and on

i even tested the thc after a hand trim by a damn fine trimmer vs the top end trimmers

of which i found the twister with its smaller barrel give a fine fine trim without over handling i was alway a hand trimmer even at crazy weight id bring in 30 people for 3 days feeds them put up with all the hassle of managing people because i believed machine plucked off thc precious thc

there are nlky two machine trimmers id recommend that came out one hand trimming the point is i challenged my own belief wu=ith a fool proof scientific approach
and upon testing hands down the twister with its conveyors and small barrel which don't allow product to ride up th side of th barrel where the r is no cutting blade

anyway machine won easily again to the point im blessed where i can do these things and why cus nobody like to get ripped off mislead by sneaky sale claims that nobody can confirm or truly deny unless we test it


so i started doing that

opened up a hydro store aND SOLD HONEST AFFORDABLE ITEMS THAT WERE PROVCED TO BE SUFFICIENT

as that is where im at in life hoping others is true happiness we are gifted and blessed with wealth not to hoard it but to hand it out

thats why im not a stingy cheap fuk

i have enough fore this life time and next

i want to leave this planet and the people around me in a better place that incwhich i was born into

and if its which things as irrelevant as growing herb well why not why should the average guy get taken advantage of we as growers are all getting fuked the nth claims of this scamming industry bottom feeders that sell the tool see use


heres a thought

to increase productivity look at how the plant grows and maximize those functions as a minor differences in bulb and reflectors made people lose sight of the real potential

and that is manipulation through the plants own process via proper nutes

iron homeostasis

fulvic acid + kelp ( which contains iron and allows the plant to stimulate (via iron) the formation of more chlorophyll= chloroplasts = plants increased ability to harvest more light energy= more sugars = higher nutritional and medicinal value of the buds

understanding the nutrients to the smallest degree is where the game is at

one needs to understand the plant as a whole how and why it does things in order to manipulate those processes

but that would require regular lab work which most cannot

im in the position as where im blessed to afford such non consequential things in life remember this is just growing fukin plant its not family its not life

have u ever been to a nation where kids walk aroundd at the age of 6 with out parents begging for food

if u had ur attitude wouldn't be one of hmmm how can i put it a jerk ya a jerk

this is the personality u wish to foster so one day the upraising a family u can past down to ur children

im much more than a grower

but
heres what u want u want me to show you a picture of the equipment i own
where is that going to get me

how about i call truce fly u up here and you can see it first hand

and maybe leave with more info than u can as well as myself

i wish not to banter back and forth with cheeky ass comments

i wish only to learn and if i can share some knowledge but ur attitude is not conducive to learning thats not ur intentions

no need to admit to anyone but yourself i know me and k=i know ur type

but hers why i let shit slide

at 18 years old im pulling up with my GF to a restaurant all full of myself cus i just bouf=ght a new 1989 chef 4x4 off the lot $26,000 was a lot in 1989

iu was the fukin man cus i had 16inch rims

which now the rotors on my bow dwarf 16 inch rims
as i was pulling into a parking stall a older guy nosed in and now it was a stand off

i get beating my chest like a faking retsrd now i lok back on it

yelling he starts to yell and its on face to face i was a disrespectful fukin spoiled brat I've always had money and its mostlyy been a disservice in obtaining self contentment it ws always on to the next toy to find happiness and so on

any way not backing down being a dick i kept at this guy whom i know recognize is my senior and at least 55 yrs old yet no respect in my mouth i continued

at which he broke down and said " im sorry junior . im in a baad mood my mom died this morning, believe u me just typing this memory bring tears flooding down my face i was so ashamed at that point i could have crawled un der the pavement to hide , it was a disgusting show of arrogance which that day i folded never to repeat,

any way i quietly got into my truck backed out and gave top the spot to embe=arrssed to even apologize

leaving the restuafreant i whispered to th waitress " see that gentleman in th back , don't d=say anything to him but im paying his tab again please don't mention it was I


upon leaving i was jumping in my truck

out runs this man whom disgraced earlier with my self righteous banter and offence to him

with out hesitation wee extended our hands and then it happened i broke next thing i noticed we were both crying hugging and being fellow caring human beings

which gets to my point

i don't know what is going on in ur life where ui fell the need to be cheeky and a smart ass to me

so i let it slide
more over isn't this forum a place to learn and to help other learn from our success and failures

one day u will mature to th point that u realize only health matters life is bigger than our grows even though we put in countless hours lots of attention

when i was i newbie a
 

hd deuce

Member
right and how old is said mother.....
obviously old enough to determine sex?
or...what process was used, in your mind once the plant reaches maturity what else is changing?

so if u want to be peaceful and helpful o one another im game


until next week
 

Pureblood89

Well-Known Member
I've found out through trial and error that if you wait for the plant to show sex in veg (usually 5-6 weeks for indicas) you cut flowering time down significantly and it shortens the "stretch" length. Not sure if it puts on more resin output though.
 

mr sunshine

Well-Known Member
here lies the issue

with all internet communication no checks in place to keep people from being less than respectable

wtf is this a quiz

just because i don't boast about production etc,,, means im a moron

id love to get u in the same room

u have what i call little man in car syndrome

everybody is a smart ass behind the wheel at 60mph and behind the screen in which u enj=oy to throw out cheeky comments

have ever heard its not nice to boast

do u want to know my reality so u feel less about yours

whats your game here ?

what kind of a plain stupid and presumptuous question

dude

to answer you ,,,,, she was grow from her moms tissue culture to regain here vigour etc>>>>>

9 months old now

are u asking me how i determine sex hmmm isn't that the first thing most people discover that is a fundamental need

as I've never used feminized seeds

listen up you mouthy fuk

dare u to take me up on my offer , let me know where you live
please
i want to give u a first hand session is the ouch game

ur so smart

what ur financial future

what assets have u accumulated

what size of grow do you have

how much weight do u put out every 8weeks

cus i know damn well ur not in a money spot to afford 15-18 week
malawi grows

so u smoke the easy ass indica ya ya personally i don't smoke a lot how can one be stoned continuously and function to the point where as to succeed if one choses a profession that require one to have all his meant l faculties and to be on top of ones game

in addition im a father i chose my family over continuous stones not that i don't
but now my daughter is older im not in the position to be high


plus at one time i was like you i was so high so long being sober now is like being high i quite rather enjoy a sharp mind



hmmm

u want to know skill

fuk dude anybody can be a good grower the net has made sure of that

but the net aint gonna help ur broke ass argumentative attitude

how many cups in spain have u attended

time and money is all it takes to be good in this game

as more money = more grows = more mistakes = more learning = more success

id say I've picked the brains of the most successful growers out there



heres the thing no matter how i reply u can always say prove it

do u want pics is that it
id never expose my situation in that way

even my daughter at 6 years of age knew to say " stay on the low daddy ,stay on the low"

as for pic anybody can falsify all burden of proof

but heres the kicker not if the person sending the pis put a personal message in the picture

yours are are coming my friend

by the time im done with you u will be embarrassed and belittled

is that the thing i should do

absolutely not

ur obviously young and what example should all respectable people give in their world including yourself

if my daughter ever bought wind of even this conversation she would be utterly disappointed in me every body want their parents to nee of the utmost moral character


so heres my advice

how about being friendly humble and helpful

as for my experiment its not to improve my thc % im happy at 28% thc

my experiment was simply to do what others can't afford to do so if im lucky enough to have the funds why would ny i fid a gap in th want to know compartment of all growers

what approach will make the most production and potent bud

i am only doing my experiment with helpful intentions so don't one so contrite

i have the funds to answer the question posed
combine that with i just want to know = why not

i can tell you I've tested almost every light vs the chinese version

and the 630 CMH from china stood side by side with nanolux

on and on

i even tested the thc after a hand trim by a damn fine trimmer vs the top end trimmers

of which i found the twister with its smaller barrel give a fine fine trim without over handling i was alway a hand trimmer even at crazy weight id bring in 30 people for 3 days feeds them put up with all the hassle of managing people because i believed machine plucked off thc precious thc

there are nlky two machine trimmers id recommend that came out one hand trimming the point is i challenged my own belief wu=ith a fool proof scientific approach
and upon testing hands down the twister with its conveyors and small barrel which don't allow product to ride up th side of th barrel where the r is no cutting blade

anyway machine won easily again to the point im blessed where i can do these things and why cus nobody like to get ripped off mislead by sneaky sale claims that nobody can confirm or truly deny unless we test it


so i started doing that

opened up a hydro store aND SOLD HONEST AFFORDABLE ITEMS THAT WERE PROVCED TO BE SUFFICIENT

as that is where im at in life hoping others is true happiness we are gifted and blessed with wealth not to hoard it but to hand it out

thats why im not a stingy cheap fuk

i have enough fore this life time and next

i want to leave this planet and the people around me in a better place that incwhich i was born into

and if its which things as irrelevant as growing herb well why not why should the average guy get taken advantage of we as growers are all getting fuked the nth claims of this scamming industry bottom feeders that sell the tool see use


heres a thought

to increase productivity look at how the plant grows and maximize those functions as a minor differences in bulb and reflectors made people lose sight of the real potential

and that is manipulation through the plants own process via proper nutes

iron homeostasis

fulvic acid + kelp ( which contains iron and allows the plant to stimulate (via iron) the formation of more chlorophyll= chloroplasts = plants increased ability to harvest more light energy= more sugars = higher nutritional and medicinal value of the buds

understanding the nutrients to the smallest degree is where the game is at

one needs to understand the plant as a whole how and why it does things in order to manipulate those processes

but that would require regular lab work which most cannot

im in the position as where im blessed to afford such non consequential things in life remember this is just growing fukin plant its not family its not life

have u ever been to a nation where kids walk aroundd at the age of 6 with out parents begging for food

if u had ur attitude wouldn't be one of hmmm how can i put it a jerk ya a jerk

this is the personality u wish to foster so one day the upraising a family u can past down to ur children

im much more than a grower

but
heres what u want u want me to show you a picture of the equipment i own
where is that going to get me

how about i call truce fly u up here and you can see it first hand

and maybe leave with more info than u can as well as myself

i wish not to banter back and forth with cheeky ass comments

i wish only to learn and if i can share some knowledge but ur attitude is not conducive to learning thats not ur intentions

no need to admit to anyone but yourself i know me and k=i know ur type

but hers why i let shit slide

at 18 years old im pulling up with my GF to a restaurant all full of myself cus i just bouf=ght a new 1989 chef 4x4 off the lot $26,000 was a lot in 1989

iu was the fukin man cus i had 16inch rims

which now the rotors on my bow dwarf 16 inch rims
as i was pulling into a parking stall a older guy nosed in and now it was a stand off

i get beating my chest like a faking retsrd now i lok back on it

yelling he starts to yell and its on face to face i was a disrespectful fukin spoiled brat I've always had money and its mostlyy been a disservice in obtaining self contentment it ws always on to the next toy to find happiness and so on

any way not backing down being a dick i kept at this guy whom i know recognize is my senior and at least 55 yrs old yet no respect in my mouth i continued

at which he broke down and said " im sorry junior . im in a baad mood my mom died this morning, believe u me just typing this memory bring tears flooding down my face i was so ashamed at that point i could have crawled un der the pavement to hide , it was a disgusting show of arrogance which that day i folded never to repeat,

any way i quietly got into my truck backed out and gave top the spot to embe=arrssed to even apologize

leaving the restuafreant i whispered to th waitress " see that gentleman in th back , don't d=say anything to him but im paying his tab again please don't mention it was I


upon leaving i was jumping in my truck

out runs this man whom disgraced earlier with my self righteous banter and offence to him

with out hesitation wee extended our hands and then it happened i broke next thing i noticed we were both crying hugging and being fellow caring human beings

which gets to my point

i don't know what is going on in ur life where ui fell the need to be cheeky and a smart ass to me

so i let it slide
more over isn't this forum a place to learn and to help other learn from our success and failures

one day u will mature to th point that u realize only health matters life is bigger than our grows even though we put in countless hours lots of attention

when i was i newbie a
Lmfao..epic meltdown bro.
 

mr sunshine

Well-Known Member
Let me get this straight. . You're running an experiment on different vegg times and how that effects potency...and you're going to use clones from a mother plant? Don't see the irony in this situation? They're all always going to be the same age. The mother plant is vegging all day. Cutting a piece of her and vegging another 2 weeks or 3 weeks or 1 day doesn't matter.. it's the same plant same age. Wtf are you thinking? If you did use seeds it still would be flawed because of different phenotypes.
 

mr sunshine

Well-Known Member
Once it's mature it's mature.. takes 2 months from seed. You're mistaking what maturity is with what a super strong root system would do.
 
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