Liberty Haze

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Okay, so I'll put the screen up 12 to 16' and look at cleaning up some of the under growth around that time. With the lights, you're saying when I switch to 12/12 I should leave the MH in there, let it grow out a bit, and when it starts to slow down switch to my HPS bulb? Hm, will that affect the end flower at all?

Regarding time frame, yeah I was already finding that the veg time they reccomend wasn't going to be enough so I assumed the flower time might be the same. Good to know for sure... I'm not in a rush or on a schedule so if it takes longer it takes longer.

Thanks

DrCannaPath said:
Dude trust me when I say their short stature is the least of yoir worries ..... LHs stretch a lot after flip. Usually youd want to fill 75% of your screen before you flip the lights. With LHs id say less then 75% because they stretch a lot after you flip (which is why you should keep the light spectrum or color that of a veg to reduce the stretch then change to HPS or any bloom lighting when stretching seizes).
When you fill your screen, you also want to slowly defoliate the growth underneath but do it in enough time before you flip. I noticed LH streched even longer than usual when i defoliated AFTER flipping the light to 12/12. This could be coincidental but definitely worth noting!
Happy growing LH bro

Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/
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chained said:
Okay, so I'll put the screen up 12 to 16' and look at cleaning up some of the under growth around that time. With the lights, you're saying when I switch to 12/12 I should leave the MH in there, let it grow out a bit, and when it starts to slow down switch to my HPS bulb? Hm, will that affect the end flower at all?

Regarding time frame, yeah I was already finding that the veg time they reccomend wasn't going to be enough so I assumed the flower time might be the same. Good to know for sure... I'm not in a rush or on a schedule so if it takes longer it takes longer.

Thanks
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Exactly! When you flip the lights to 12/12, the girls will have a period of stretch before they start puttinf out more and more flowers. The length of this period depends on the strain. Indicas will stretch less and for shorter period and also finish flowering in shorter time while sativas will stretch more and for a longer period and take longer to ripen and finish flowering (generally speaking). Now during that stretch period, the girls will demand lots of VEG type nutes. So also keep the nutes those for veg. The blue spectrum helps reduce that stretch to a degree. When the stretxhing slows, change your spectrum to flowering and also change the nutes to bloom nutes. Youll also notice an increase in pistil production after they girls stop stretching. So the blue specteum wont really affect your flowers making them fluffier because they havent rwally formed yet ;-)

Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/
 
chained

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Hmm, that's a bit scary for me because I haven't heard that before. Largely, I've been sticking to the convention for anything I've been doing as it's my first time, mediums, lights, nutrients, water, I wanted to do a normal grow from start to end to learn what to expect from a grow in a pretty-good environment. While what you're saying about the lights makes sense, I'm probably going to stick to going right in to the HPS at 12/12. That said I'm completely willing to try what you've said with the lights on my next grow which will be from clones taken from these current plants. That way I will be able to see the difference and learn what the method has actually done, you know, give me a comparison.

I smoke a tank load of weed and plan to grow regularly, I'm also very much into fine tuning things and getting results and I'm already enjoying growing so much, so trying different things during a grow has always been on the cards and I've already pasted what you said into my notes for the next grow :)
 
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This is something many growers do and they base it subjectively on the plants growth.
But you dont have to do it. Like you said, you can grow the way you want, then compare what little changes to the grow style would do during growth and even to the final harvest (quality and quantity). I do like doing things just the way to do (try things and compare and definitely notice any changes and variations and LEARN as much about a strain as I would about the whole growing process. I read somewhere that althought MJ isnt addicting, growing it (with the learning curve and all the excitement ) certainly is. I believe that ;-)

Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/
 
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Okay, thanks a bunch guys. I'll think it over and maybe ask about it again before the time comes. As I said I really want to learn as much as I can and also understand the changes I'm making and what they do, and I understand the theory behind what you guys are saying so if not this grow the next I'm likely to try it out

Just how much of the stretch, in percentage, do you think this method knocks off? My tent is a standard 1.2m by 1.2m @ 2m tall, my light hood and carbon filter take up a fair amount of room at the top so keeping plant height down is an important consideration for me of course. That's also why I'll be trying my hand at a SCROG
 
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Fair game bro and i personally support your decision either way!
LH stretches a lot. I grew it before without scrog and about tripled in height after flipping and by the end of the grow. Whwn I scroged it last time it stretched a lot that even with the (somewhat crappy) scrog screen i had i managed to bleach a few branches because of how close they got to the light. Again this could be, like I said, due to defoliating still after flipping or maybe coincidental. I recommend you flip when the screen is about 2/3 full instead of 3/4. Anticipate the colas being about a foot above the screen (maybe more) and factor this in when you consider the height ya have and where you want the light to be.
As for how much stretch the method knocks off, thats for a side by side scientific experiment to tell us and i believe (theiretically speaking) it depends on many factors not one (like intensity of light and of the correct spectrum needed (how much blue for example) nutes, strain and genetics, etc)

Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/
 
chained

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That gives me enough to think about and helps me figuring out where I go from here. Thanks a bunch.

I took this picture today. The plant in the back left [named 'Two'] which I used the FIM method on, a few days ago, is so dense with growth at the top it's barely got room for itself! It was originally lagging quite a bit behind but it's really starting to catch up to the main one at the front, my number one girl, which I just topped today, too.

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I'm surprised at how much they're drinking; I'm topping up the reservoir with 2.5L every other day.

I've read on-line about how thirsty weed can be, but it's quite different to experience it. I can top the res up before bed and. easily, see how far the water level has dropped by morning.

It goes to show you just how important getting all your water pH, PPM and nutrients right are, if the plants are going to take in that much water. At this stage I've been pretty good with keeping everything within range and had a bit of luck, too, but I can see how quickly things could turn
 
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My pH levels are really starting to level out now. At the start, as everything was setting in, I had to adjust it daily. It's gone up .2 in 24 hours, but that's well within the range I'm letting it move around in, I feel confident I can leave it unattended for a few days without much worry. I also chose to top up with maybe 3 or 4L of water today - that's about 2L a day, since the last top up, that the res has dropped.

She's about 27cm (10 inch) from the base of the pot and I can't wait to try and SCROG it. Fuck, I hope I can pull this off.
 
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