radiant Rudy
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platinum has a history of deceit, lies and greed rivaling the impeached swine's.
LED vs LED
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Airwalker16
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Why spend the money on a slate triple, and use only 2/3 of it when you could just buy 2 slates for each single board?
so that light sucks???
Agreed, I'd never buy that new, paid way less than halfKind of like the KIND LED's, holy crap I can't believe they are still selling them for ungodly prices
looks like a blurple wuth a few other spectrums, and 630 total watts for almost $2k.....because i'm going to use the wifi part of it....dumb
K5 XL1000 WIFI LED Grow Light
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At least my AGLEX has some big COB's on it lol, this looks like the AGLEX3000 without the COB's haha
My AGLEX is also only using the white cobs in my veg tent lol.
radiant Rudy
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Ive never grown with one but I was around when they were banned from 420. At that time their business practices and their products had negative reputations. Since then ive only heard comments indicating nothing has changed.
You can certainly do better . There are a slew of light makers with transparent practices, verifiable know how, good reps and fair prices out there.
Powertech
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Problem is a lot of companies know people wont do any research before buying, so mark their stuff way up and talk like it is the best light ever (see any light sold on amazon)
radiant Rudy
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@Powertech
Agree. But i think it's far better than back in the dark ages, like 5 years ago. Back then every greedy kook was marketing the brightest light with the best spectrum. Meanwhile they were drop shipping imported junk. I think that things have gotten way better. Now there is much more DIY and knowledge sharing plus all the fanatical builders pushing the tech all the time. Back then it seemed like all of the weed sites combined held about 5 knowledgeable guys. Now there are like 50 legit light builders. If a newbee was seeking to learn the diy basics or wanted critical info to make a purchasing decision it would be far easier and more fun to do today than the darker ages.
Agree. But i think it's far better than back in the dark ages, like 5 years ago. Back then every greedy kook was marketing the brightest light with the best spectrum. Meanwhile they were drop shipping imported junk. I think that things have gotten way better. Now there is much more DIY and knowledge sharing plus all the fanatical builders pushing the tech all the time. Back then it seemed like all of the weed sites combined held about 5 knowledgeable guys. Now there are like 50 legit light builders. If a newbee was seeking to learn the diy basics or wanted critical info to make a purchasing decision it would be far easier and more fun to do today than the darker ages.
Powertech
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I know i'm having fun, but the end game is still the point
Poobzilla
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I pretty sure I know next to nothing compared to some of these guys, I was going to to go for a platinum after a friend I know has been getting success. After looking into things a bit further I decided to a bit more future-proofing as I knew I would probably would want to make an upgrade later down the line. One thing I can definitely say after doing extra research is that the claim they make that white light between blue and red in the spectrum is not used so white light led's are inherently inefficient, is complete horseshit. Yes some green light is less efficient to produce in LED form and the plant may not use as much as blue or red for photosynthesis, but the plant will still use this light to grow. That's what I have gathered from several videos and articles from professors on the subject.
Edit: As well what I am led to believe is that blurple lights seem to have a higher drop off of light the further out from the source they are. Not sure if this is really the case but i seen it mentioned a few places.
radiant Rudy
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Hey man
Could you please explain your thinking on this topic? Do you say no 660 because of stretch? Would you utilise 660 in flower? With regard to blue do you mean blowing up in flower? Do you think blue improves frost and terpines in flowering?
Powertech
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you don't want 660 during veg because yes, stretch. I don't think blue will do much for your frost, gotta go farther in the spectrum and get that UV
radiant Rudy
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If 660 was on its own channel would you say that's beneficial once flowering has commenced?
I've been using the Agro Max uv tube for a few grows. I have seen a few posts that say this tube is not a great idea. Before I get my next crop underway I will do more research and plan on adding a uva/b supplement to the rig.
Thanks for your informative response.
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Powertech
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Yes it would be. I have a few different reds, no actual use yet except I started using the far reds for fun. If you can put the reds on a separate channel do it
radiant Rudy
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Appreciate.
I've got 660s on a bar that I was using to initiate dark period. I didn't notice much effect. Next time I might just let them run through flowering.
hybridway2
Amare Shill
Its 900w right? Good winter light from afar.
$250 if it works would e a nice supplemental light on half power.
For some reason i always wanted to try a Plat or the better one they knocked off called Advanced LED. Advanced was a bit ahead with their burple offering 12 bands & quality components. Very expensive & not much more efficient then the Plat. Unfortunately. Still, a way better spectrum then BUMS like HydroGrow offer. Sooo Ignorant it baffles me.
If you could get x2 P-300's (19"x9") 189w & put one on each side of a QB-550 V-1, you'd kill it on bag appeal & weight!
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Rocket Soul
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@radiant Rudy
660 for end of day wont do anything, you need 730. 10w of modern far reds well distributed for approx 100seconds per m2. As in 15w/ 100secs for a 4x4. You can use 660 for vegg but id mainly add more blue: blues annd violets are tthe bbest nm to open the stomata which seems to be problematic and importantt under led lights as they lack the heat.
Blue in flower seems to increase thc/terps but only in concentration: seems like you get less yield but same total thc. But judges are still out on this one.
660 for end of day wont do anything, you need 730. 10w of modern far reds well distributed for approx 100seconds per m2. As in 15w/ 100secs for a 4x4. You can use 660 for vegg but id mainly add more blue: blues annd violets are tthe bbest nm to open the stomata which seems to be problematic and importantt under led lights as they lack the heat.
Blue in flower seems to increase thc/terps but only in concentration: seems like you get less yield but same total thc. But judges are still out on this one.
Powertech
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What @Rocket Soul said, I'm using far reds right now for the hell of it (730nm), the 660's are good for flowering, but they won't put the plants to sleep or wake them up
hybridway2
Amare Shill
I find high blues like the 440-490 nm can be pretty pronounced or loud as long as their is enough full range reds & of course enough green & other nm's (McCree). In turn, getting high thc/terps, more density & bag appeal. All while yielding what i think is more then say a 3k w/ 660. Plus easier to grow many plants i feel. My lights have 4k levels of 450 + a fair amount of 470 & they stretch to HighHeaven. Reason being is the balance to All the reds. Not a guessing game either. So, nice stretch (No Bosia Efect), Dense buds with mega purpling,frost ontop of frost, Loud Ass Terps & record breaking yeilds in my garden. That's why im Die-Hard Amare bro.
The only way I've seen lost yeilds in flower using high k temps is when their is not much red balance such as 630, 600, 730nm or just a plain high K temp.
Add those to a 5k (or a mix) w/ a touch of 470nm & 390nm & your in buss. Bra! All about balance.
I have a Truths Lighting LED (300w). So close to what id consider a nice spectrum from a company that didnt make it..
Just a lil less blue & needs the 390 / 420 / 470nm.
Kind've pissed No One has made an attempt to add 420 besides The Aussies Near UV HighLight Boards.
I guess once the near UV whites are more proven they will be more commonly introduced. BIG UPS to Aussie High Lights for starting it.!!
Heres a few different spectrums. Unfortunately could not post my favorite ones. ; (.
TRUTH LED is old school & is actually closest to the Medical Spectrum. Just to much unbalanced Blue.
Medical Curve prior to adding IR.
Basic outdated Chloro Chart. Still good reference though.
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Burply white
HE Common spectrum.
Amares original Enhanced Cob spectrum. Equetorial which had a UVB bulb aded but not on in the spectrum. 
What they are calling a baseline Horticultural Chip these days.
Some insight. Looks like the McCree Curve has extrnded into 360-750nm. Hu! I LIKE THIS McCree Curve & is the spectrum I'd use.. Maybe it always was & i was misinformed?
Man, if i could post the Amare spectrums, i think you'd all agree they are neat AF + Well ahead of the times. Again.
Powertech
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@hybridway2 you have been waiting awhile to post that somewhere haven't you?
And why can't you post the spectrums?
And why can't you post the spectrums?