leaves folding up????

Well these are my 3 girls the 2 in the bags are some seeds that came out of my last grow and the one in the pot is a xxx widow seed i got out of some xxx widow bud i picked up from the clinic the ones in bags are about 1 month 2 weeks and the XXX widow is 2 months and 2 weeks. I am not feeding much just some microbe and super thrive there all in ffof soil. flushing every 2 feedings and yeah. One night they needed to be watered pretty badly but it was night and i only water in the morning there outdoor plant btw so i waited and i slept in that morning didnt wake up till late afternoon went and checked on them they were really droppey and most of the leaves got really burnt and crispy the XXX widow all branches and leaves were just all laying flat in the soil crazy because they were super lush green the day before. I flushed all of them and there doing great now no issues until i checked on them early this morning and iv noticed that the XXX widow leaves are folding in i have no idea if its just the strain because it is a hybrid but i dont know better safe then sorry. They are kinda small for outdoor plants but they were all indoors plants there first month i did not want no super tall skinny trees i rather super bushy bushes. Well any info will help thank you sorry 4 so much reading just thought you guys should know. Toke up

Sounds like they got too hot. The folding of the leaves , if the serrated tips are browning, could mean that.

Yup. Heat and moisture stress......Needs less heat and more moisture to start.
The cross breeds that are Indica dominate look mostly ok. But the sativa dominate one is being over feed and with the P to high also.
Sativa's like less feed and tend to be fussy about it!
The nutrient your using is what? Tell me the NPK ratio of it. I would venture that the P is to high....
Everyone should keep in mind that the plant we grow STORES P. The plant will take up enough to last 25-30 days. When given to much it gets the yellowing you see in that Sativa dom plant....In veg there should be low amounts of P in the nutrient....
The other 2 are starting to express the high P problem also, but not nearly as bad....

Cut the P back by changing your veg nutrient if need be,,,or feed less and water more....
What's the soil?

The plant will fold its leaves up to reduce the surface area because of the heat

re-pot to big totes, imo. no moisture reserve in those baby pots

I'm using ffof soil and thanks I didn't know Sativa are picky about nutes I started to give it open sesame and that's when my problems started happening I immediately stopped with all nutes just straight water for about a week or 2 but now I'm just using microbe and super thrive they seem to be doing alright except the Sativa dom one it just keeps yellowing and leaves are falling off all bottom/old growth tho all new growth is pretty light lush green anything u could do to stop the yellowing and is there any more info u can provide me with the more I know the less My plants will get hurt thanks for everything toke up

And there outdoor plants and I live in the high desert it's 100 degrees daily over here heat stress is something I would expect

sure.....just ignore my correct answer

get'm in the ground or pot up. drying out too fast; getting too hot in roots...............

stem size, folks........stem size. stem as fat as a pencil, 5 gallons. fat as your middle finger (i'm tall and thin) a 15 gallon tote. fat as your thumb......cut a 55 gallon drum in half.

if youz don't give those roots plenty of stable, cool medium to carry on business in.....you will pay.

Don thanks man I'll stop by the hydro store later and pick up there biggest size

grower from cali said:

And there outdoor plants and I live in the high desert it's 100 degrees daily over here heat stress is something I would expect

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cannabis is native to Central Asia..............it is happy as shit it your conditions, with a proper root structure.
see: Kazakhstan weather report

grower from cali said:

Don thanks man I'll stop by the hydro store later and pick up there biggest size

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Home Depot, Walmart..........cheap. inside, 5 gallons is plenty, even with a moderate veg. outside.......whole new ball game.

Alright thanks man so should I just go to Walmart and get a 5 gallon pot nothing bigger or could I just get the biggest pot they have and just finish my grow in it sounds like It will save me a trip for when she needs to be transplanted again

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Alright thanks man so should I just go to Walmart and get a 5 gallon pot nothing bigger or could I just get the biggest pot they have and just finish my grow in it sounds like It will save me a trip for when she needs to be transplanted again

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big, fat, deep totes. 12 gallons at the smallest. I do 20's. drop them in, and you are done with them. those plants want to take off running.

Fursure thanks man for everything I'll be sure to stop by the store and pick those up

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Fursure thanks man for everything I'll be sure to stop by the store and pick those up

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Don is exactly correct on the bigger pot to cure your heat problems ! Go Don!
If you don't want to go as big as 10 gallons,,,,,put the pot it's self into the ground to help out the hot pot syndrome and keep it out of the sun(the pot it's self,,not the plant).....at least wrap the pot with a white something to help.

As far as the sativa dom plant goes......Get that into a big pot asap. Simply water it for a week or 10 days.
Find a Nutrient with no P in it for veg.....If I recall correctly, Xtreme Nutrients has a one called VEG it's 6-0-2. This as most synthetics are, is formulated for hydro. For your sativa. I would run this full strength at every 3rd or 4th watering. Start with every 4th and go up to every 3rd if need be....To be clear, I want you to only use the nutrient 1 time a week, maybe 2 times every other week by following the every 4th day....IF the plant wants more, like it gets minor N def (I doubt it) simply use a good high N foliar to comp that. Do NOT flip to a "BLOOM" nutrient till week 4 of flower on this one.....The Bloom nute should have a P value in the high 3 to low 4 range!

In FFOF I might have not added a nutrient for 20 - 25 days or so after transplant.

Is "Potters Gold" soil available in your area? If so,,,,,USE that!!! 30days no feeding.....This is my starter soil and I use it for my basic when layering with a super soil for my Organic runs. GREAT STUFF!
Your Sativa will recover by stopping the advance of the yellowing. The already yellow leaves will not recover back to a green healthy leaf.....The only off color leaf damage that does "recover" is low N and high N......ANY type of "recovery" will take 3-5 days in hydro and 5-7 days in soil to show the first signs of "recovery". In your case the recovery will show by the yellowing stopping it's advance up the Plant and the new growth being green and lush.

Good Luck

I think that's what my plant did the Sativa one the N Def I think because my shit was fine next day it was just dead just laying in the dirt Gave it some water 2 days later she was right back up lush green as ever then she started yellowing and now this is where we are and thanks for all the info it really helps a lot I most definitely will be doing everything you talked about.