Lady Cane, Sannie's Jack and Herijuana 2011

Ihaven't posted a journal in about a year now so I figure I'll keep track ofsome new strains I am growing and/or just starting.

Allviewers please feel free to comment, suggest or just say hello.

Hereis the my set-up and conditions which I grow in.

Ihave a veg room which I use for cloning, vegging and sprouting. The room isequiped with up to 650 watt of cfl 6500. Mostly my plants are outside but keepthem in there in the night and heavy weather. I run an 18/6 light schedule andpresently vegging until 20 inches.

Weather:

Ilive in Central America at analtitude of 2000 meters or about 6500 ft above sea level. This has been a hugeadjustment over years of growing in Florida. The temprange is between 52 for a low to 60 depending on the time of year or whether itis a clear sky or not. The highs run no higher 78 and is usually 66-72 mostdays. We receive well over 150 inches of rain per year with some well over 200inches. The average R/H is 94% year round, this info from the universityweather school.

Thewind is very strong, How strong you ask? I live about 500 ft below the ridgewhere they just installed a new windmill farm. The valley is open to the tradewinds and funnel up the main valley and accelerates each time is squeezed intoanother smaller valley.

Soil

Ihave been using the present soil mix now through this my 3rd cycle. It is madeup of my own compost which has everything in that comes off of 5 acres oflawns, flower gardens, hundreds of banana trees and local farm manures.

Iuse an abono organico compost in addition, this stuff I have no idea what is init exactly but runs 4-5-5 and is usedin the production of organic coffee production. No set amount of this stuff, Ijust adjust with each cycle of use to the feel I want.

Wehave some stuff called tierra negra down here which is a by product of charcoalproduction here locally. Comes in big sugar cane sacks for about $2 USD and isa great additive to any soil. Another benefit is the lowering of nutes used toobtain your desired results.

Ohand presently I am using composted chicken litter mixed into each individualcontainer depending on what it using comfortly.

Mygoal:

Myfirst run of these strains so I am not expecting huge yields, nute burn orother nasties. So I just want to have a healthy grow which teaches me what theyneed more or less than in the next cycle. I run a pretty general mix andsuppliment as they grow and express wants and needs.

Thatmy seeds are good and fertile.

Keepmold and catepillers off the girls.

Theline-up:

LadyCane - Bought these from E$bar through Sannie's a few years ago but got busywith other strains. I had 7 and sprouted 6, 3 males and 3 females. The maleswhere harvested for pollen and stored. The females are 3 different phenos, howlucky can you get? Pics in a moment. The first girls are entering week 7 offlower now. The clones are in various stages as you will see in further posts.

LadyCane was each pollinated by the mixed male pollen. I know it will give manydifferent phenos but also gives the greatest expression of genes this way. SeeI plan on giving this an IBL try in my life time.

Sannie's Jack F3 - I bought these back in I believe 2007 nor for sure, but the first run was good although cut very short due to illness. I popped 4 seeds and got 4 sprouts with 1 scrubbing after the first day. I am hoping these do well and have 3 more seeds to plant the next crescent moon.

Herijuana - I am really excited about this one, it has been years since I smoked any of it and haven't ever grown it before. I popped 4 in the ground and got 4 good healthy sprouts.

Ok there is a brief set up, I have others finishing now and will post pics of them and these babies later today. Thank you for taking the time to read through the ramble and the set-up.
Please feel free to post pics or comments on the same strains, I can always use a good tip with new strains. Any and all comments welcome even to say hello. I hope that this can help some newer growers and it keeps me focused on when what happened in the grow.

I'm looking forward to seeing how your lady canes turn out.
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Thanks Beansly I appreciate the faith and welcome. Should be a good journey I hope, the ladies are looking pretty nice right now I think.
Here is my pic update of the Lady Canes

This is Lady Cane (first pheno) she is now in about day 46 of flower.

Lady Cane #1 (pheno 2)



Lady Cane #2 (pheno 3)



Here is a little bonus shot of the day. This is what I call "Our Melissa" which is a cross of El Monstre X El Monstre. These seeds were made a couple of years ago and I just grew out 2 seeds both females, but one hermie which was the super pheno so far. Oh well next batch of seeds.
I don't know how long into flower she really is but it seems she will be ready in about 3 weeks. This is my 6th cycle with her but alias her turn to has come to an end for the current grow.

Well that is all for today. Sorry the pics aren't up to standards today but I was trying to beat the rain yesterday taking them. I have some other crosses to share tomorrow and a bit more of an update.

Thanks again Beansly, again I welcome all comments.

I got a pack of herijuana and LC x blueberry freebies. I ran out of room and gave them to a friend. The Vegas sun did the rest. Basically it was a death sentence, and yeah, they all died. I did run out of money and lights and had to put them outside, just to be fair.
I know you welcome comments but your plants look great. I should be asking you for comments!
You did a damn good job building the soil too. How long have you been growing for?
I'm a huge Sannie's fan, but they've always been second to MNS in my heart so I never get around to growing anything by them.
Maybe you could help me choose a strain from sannie's?
I'd like a shorter flowering plant to run along side my SSH. The SSH should be hashy, spicy, sandalwood flavored with a high like an electric punch in the face. I want something opposite as that. Opiate-narcotic, knock out high. Preferable one that's a little more complex than that, but the potency has to be unquestionably strong. Not strong to certain people. STRONG. I prefer it to be at least an average yielder, but if it's below average, that's OK if it's worth it. I'd like it to have a nice taste for the candy loving crowd. Citrus, or bubblegum or whatever the fuck. Basically I want the best weed at the party, if you know what I mean.
Thanks a lot.

Thank you for the kind words Beansly. I try work at the plants all the time, it is as much the medicine for me as the actual product. I can spend hours each day inspecting, talking to and just sit amongst them and have pipe listening to sounds of the river and mountain. The Lady Cane are a very easy grow up to this point. They didn't require a lot of N until the past couple of weeks as they are starting to produce more bud mass now. I laugh because of course they started out getting the exact same thing in their diet and now I am seeing that all require individual feeding schedules.
Maybe you can explain to me how all these new flangled nute programs work. I shouldn't get started on this topic, lol. Anyway, all three phenos are taking different N levels by a pretty large margin to keep green. Lady Cane, the pheno which is my favorite to watch so far, has just gone from dark green to losing a couple of fan leaves in a matter of days. Lady Cane #2 is so loaded with N she just skipped a feeding. This is why I never look for much out of the first run of a strain, just a little look into the future. So today all these kids which have never grown a plant before is given a schedule week by week what to do, and they wonder why their plants don't look right. Or they hit it right by accident and then they swear this is the only way to grow.
Sorry, I knew it was a bad subject.
For your opiate type high, I have never had anything as good as herijuana. I just can't believe that I have waited this long to buy the seeds. I don't usually like the indica, except as a sleep aid and I have some phenos of sativa which give a pretty relaxing high for aiding sleep. The wife wanted it so I said sure and now I want it in the cure jar already. I am a heavy heavy smoker, starting with plant chores at 5:30 every morning and watching the sunrise over the mountain. So, strengthwise I tend to be picky and not easily impressed.
SSH is great strain, I had it going for 2 years and lost the strain last year when I got laid up for a couple of months. Still have a few beans of it and wondering how to fit it into the rotation. Flowering times are long on these and most other sativas, but the best takes time. So far I am running 2 to 4 weeks longer than Sannie's times, but it is in that range for all the strains. I laugh with the wife that she wants me to take a break in growing and I keep telling her that for a new strain to start and finish takes me about 7 months. I can't have a break, I would go nuts. My cross of Our Melissa ( El Monstre x El Monstre) is the shortest flowering time in my grow at 12 weeks. Our Melissa is a great little plant that looks nothing like it parents, my favorite daytime smoke out the current strains.
I'll write more later its plant time, the sun is out the pipe is empty and its time to go to work.

Thanks for all the views

canefan said:

Thank you for the kind words Beansly. I try work at the plants all the time, it is as much the medicine for me as the actual product. I can spend hours each day inspecting, talking to and just sit amongst them and have pipe listening to sounds of the river and mountain. The Lady Cane are a very easy grow up to this point. They didn't require a lot of N until the past couple of weeks as they are starting to produce more bud mass now. I laugh because of course they started out getting the exact same thing in their diet and now I am seeing that all require individual feeding schedules.
Maybe you can explain to me how all these new flangled nute programs work. I shouldn't get started on this topic, lol. Anyway, all three phenos are taking different N levels by a pretty large margin to keep green. Lady Cane, the pheno which is my favorite to watch so far, has just gone from dark green to losing a couple of fan leaves in a matter of days. Lady Cane #2 is so loaded with N she just skipped a feeding. This is why I never look for much out of the first run of a strain, just a little look into the future. So today all these kids which have never grown a plant before is given a schedule week by week what to do, and they wonder why their plants don't look right. Or they hit it right by accident and then they swear this is the only way to grow.
Sorry, I knew it was a bad subject.
For your opiate type high, I have never had anything as good as herijuana. I just can't believe that I have waited this long to buy the seeds. I don't usually like the indica, except as a sleep aid and I have some phenos of sativa which give a pretty relaxing high for aiding sleep. The wife wanted it so I said sure and now I want it in the cure jar already. I am a heavy heavy smoker, starting with plant chores at 5:30 every morning and watching the sunrise over the mountain. So, strengthwise I tend to be picky and not easily impressed.
SSH is great strain, I had it going for 2 years and lost the strain last year when I got laid up for a couple of months. Still have a few beans of it and wondering how to fit it into the rotation. Flowering times are long on these and most other sativas, but the best takes time. So far I am running 2 to 4 weeks longer than Sannie's times, but it is in that range for all the strains. I laugh with the wife that she wants me to take a break in growing and I keep telling her that for a new strain to start and finish takes me about 7 months. I can't have a break, I would go nuts. My cross of Our Melissa ( El Monstre x El Monstre) is the shortest flowering time in my grow at 12 weeks. Our Melissa is a great little plant that looks nothing like it parents, my favorite daytime smoke out the current strains.
I'll write more later its plant time, the sun is out the pipe is empty and its time to go to work.

Thanks for all the views

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I knew you were gonna say herijuana lol. I was even gonna write 'and don't say herijuana' . I tried and failed growing it once but only cause I was more focused on the other grow had going on at the time. I might as well go on ahead and try it again! You can't deny that its some good strong stuff, that's for sure, but I heard it doesn't yeild too well, Is that true?
How was that El Monstre? What is that cross again?
I was also looking at mortabel's Double Koosh that's pre-99 Bubba Kush x G13/Hashplant. And Anesthesia which is afghan/skunk x herijuana.

canefan said:

So today all these kids which have never grown a plant before is given a schedule week by week what to do, and they wonder why their plants don't look right. Or they hit it right by accident and then they swear this is the only way to grow.
Sorry, I knew it was a bad subject.

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Haha! It's so true, but some you can't blame in a way. They're promised the world by these nutrient companies too like 10, 25, 100, 300% yield increase, and resin increase, and potency increase. Then they try and back it up with pseudo-science and clever marketing which creates this feverish-need for the product, it's ridiculous. I have tons of respect for gardeners that can mix a good soil and can feed their plant without chemicals or falling for the hype.

The El Monstre was great, I ended up with two pheno's but lost the best one

when I was laid up last year.

This the green pheno of El Monstre, she goes by the name Melissa on the farm. I think this is like the 12th or 13th cycle of her and she was a great producer and finished in about 11 weeks. I liked the blueberry pheno the best, so rich in aroma and a nice pleasant lets go do something high. This pheno is uplifting but if let to go any past all cloudy it can put you to sleep.
The Sweet Melissa is the blueberry pheno El Monstre x El Monstre - She has been great this being my 4th cycle with her, I think. The orginal seedling had a strong bubblegum scent although its' flower stage. The clones don't have much smell at all until they are cured and then the bubblegum comes out in the smoke and aroma.

This cheapass set up won't let me change fonts. If it is not one thing that doesn't work it is another. I have a pretty good stash of seeds for the Sweet Melissa which has produced 4 phenos that were good but 1 hermied and I have regrown any of the other seeds out to see what else is in store.
In answer to your question if I were to have to go with another indica for lights out, being old school I have to say a good afghani. That has always been my favorite that I was able to buy when I was in the mood. I have grown several similiar strains but with today's market I couldn't honestly give you a decent answer. The kush should be good for you and potentcy wise you should be in great shape.
Gotta go back to the plants storm is coming and I have to move plants to shelter.

looking awesome cane!!! i dont think you got my pm last time, well long story short,

my grandpa came over and rooted all my 6 outdoor plants, so all progress was lost and im still extremely mad about it cause my querkle was looking great and my ww was 2 weeks away from harvest...

i started up again, indoors and im hoping that i will get a good yield out of 2 plants. im using 131watts of clfs, so i hope i do get something good.

im really likign your plants and wish that they turn out great....

thanks for all the tips

canefan said:

Thanks Beansly I appreciate the faith and welcome. Should be a good journey I hope, the ladies are looking pretty nice right now I think.
Here is my pic update of the Lady Canes

This is Lady Cane (first pheno) she is now in about day 46 of flower.View attachment 1735653 View attachment 1735657 View attachment 1735660

Lady Cane #1 (pheno 2)

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Lady Cane #2 (pheno 3)

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Here is a little bonus shot of the day. This is what I call "Our Melissa" which is a cross of El Monstre X El Monstre. These seeds were made a couple of years ago and I just grew out 2 seeds both females, but one hermie which was the super pheno so far. Oh well next batch of seeds.
I don't know how long into flower she really is but it seems she will be ready in about 3 weeks. This is my 6th cycle with her but alias her turn to has come to an end for the current grow.

View attachment 1735698 View attachment 1735701 View attachment 1735699 Well that is all for today. Sorry the pics aren't up to standards today but I was trying to beat the rain yesterday taking them. I have some other crosses to share tomorrow and a bit more of an update.

Thanks again Beansly, again I welcome all comments.

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Olylifter420 thank you for stopping by. Man I am really sorry to hear about what grandpa did to ya, that is some cold stuff. At least he didn't turn you in or disown you and plants can always be regrown even if it does suck. I am glad that I was able to help you out, I am always here to help.

Since I am here I might as well post one other pic of a girl. This one is a cross whos father was either Sannie's Jack or El Monstre and the mother could be either El Monstre, Lady Cane, Sannie's Jack, Sativa Queen or Walhalla. Just stray seeds that I ended up with when I was laid up last year and a helper mixed everything together. Anyway the mother hermied and I just grew out this clone to see if it was the plant genes or if I made an error.

Well ya'll I am just sooooo F*#@ing pissed off trying to load pictures into the update. I was about to give up but instead I am going to be making a few quick updates with pics so I can keep them in the order I want.

Lady Cane - She is my favorite to go out and look at in the garden, just something about her looks appeals to me. I think she is looking pretty good just now getting her back up to par on the N. She looks like she has hit the half way or a little past mark on flower, Day 49 in the pic.


Hope you enjoyed and will post the next pheno in a few minutes.
All Comments welcomed

freakn sweet bro! that first one reminded me of my ww that got murdered!

keep it up bro...

good growing to you

canefan said:

Well ya'll I am just sooooo F*#@ing pissed off trying to load pictures into the update. I was about to give up but instead I am going to be making a few quick updates with pics so I can keep them in the order I want.

View attachment 1744731View attachment 1744732View attachment 1744730View attachment 1744728View attachment 1744735 Lady Cane - She is my favorite to go out and look at in the garden, just something about her looks appeals to me. I think she is looking pretty good just now getting her back up to par on the N. She looks like she has hit the half way or a little past mark on flower, Day 49 in the pic.


Hope you enjoyed and will post the next pheno in a few minutes.
All Comments welcomed

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Lady Cane #1 - This pheno promises to be a big budded plant, I am surprised at her size at this point. I am most happy at this point with her. I am in the process of running a one time run of this pheno I will show pics in a later update on the veg set up. So far very easy plant to grow, easy on the nutes, the bugs don't seem to like her much, white flies are here and there.
Next update on the way

Looking nice and healthy CF. I am subbed.....

Wow thanks for the quick looks and the likes received
Welcome to watchhow and olylifter, I hope that I can continue to delight your eyes. I don't know what there is about this strain but I have gotten lots of enjoyment out of watching them grow out. Can't wait for the taste test.

Ok, Lady Cane #2 - The third and final of my phenos of Lady Cane, she looking more similiar to Lady Cane as she matures but still many differences.

Thanks for all the views and the comments........I have a few more pics to load on the veg set up with all the new little ladies

They look great. And beings they are growing at your elevation, simply wonderful, well done indeed....

Looking good canefan,
I have warmer weather but same light/humidity.would be good to share some info about growing in these climates.Insecticides,rot etc.
Those are good looking plants.Will stick up my Pineapple Chunks ,Greenhouse AMS,Wild Thai,The Church (Ghouse)from last grow.
Drying,curing etc??

Well better late than never I guess, it has been a busy couple of weeks and the weather hasn't been good for pics sorry. The girls are looking pretty good as we get down to the chopping season, I have about 3 weeks left on the Lady Canes and the Heri and Sannie Jacks are growing like weeds.
Ok since the last update here is what has been going on with the plants, as much for my memory as for showing ya'll what is going on. The Heri and Jacks are now a month old and starting really hit their stride. I had some problems with grasshoppers, the little bastards, they ate 3 of my seedlings, 2 Jacks and 1 Heri which really pisses me off. The greenhouses next door to me have caused so much problems with insect that I never had before. White flies which I just can't get rid of and the weather has been drier and warmer than normal, so until the rainy season really sits in I am screwed. Grasshoppers have come in waves and are eating everything in their path on all the new growth for all plants not just the girls.. We are getting enough rain that spraying is all but futile and the big girls are kept close to shelter and helps keep the bugs off of them, except for white flies.

I have a bunch of clones going right now with the majority of them being Lady Cane #1 which is the biggest producer of bud out of the 3 phenos. This pheno is the one I am keeping for my cancer patients just because of the ease of growing and the amount she appears to be putting out. At this altittude I need all the help I can get as the buds just don't get as large up here. Anyway, I have I think 11 or 12 clones going of #1 from 1 month into flowering to 7 just in their starter pots.
Here are a couple of pics the first is Heri and Jack in the 1 gallon buckets and a Lady Clone in the 3 gallon bucket.

WTF? I have been fighting this damn word processing system for far too long. I don't understand this site and why after all these years writing journals and uploading pics in a thoughout manner is next to impossible.
Sorry about the pics in the last post, RIU didn't like photobucket this morning and takes all the pics from the computer and jumbles the shit out of them
Come On RIU this isn't rocket science........fix this problem.
OK here are somemore pics of the Lady Canes and I will attempt to work on other pics and get them in more orderly fashion.




The first pic is Lady Cane #1 with about 3 weeks left,pic #2 is a shot of Lady Cane #2 also about 3 weeks away, 3rd pic is a group shot of Lady Cane, Lady #2 and Lady Cane #1. The last two pics are bud shots of Lady Cane.
Notice that in this first run I got behind a bit on the N with Lady Cane and she never really got caught back up. I just hate losing any fan leaves even when I am so close to finish. The next cycle plants are looking better, keeping everything green this time, I hope.
I am running some multi colas and single colas this time through to see whtat the difference is weightwise and nutewise to see which I like the best for these girls.
Ok folks it is time to go back to work in the plants, I will catch up on the other plants this afternoon if all goes well.
Once again thanks for looking, all comments and/or suggestions welcome.
Happy Growing to All

Mmmmm tasty! Can I just take one big bite outta each of those colas

Well I am tired of fighting this friggin program and have spent too much time trying arrange the pics so you just have to sift through this post. The pics below are of Lady Cane pheno #1, by far above the biggest buds of the 3 phenos so far. This little lady is at day 73 of flower and think about 2 more weeks.ParanoiaKills, thanks for stopping by and I am glad that they look tastey to you, they sure do to me also.
Well it has been a trying week here on the farm getting ready for the rainiest month of the year. The girls are looking fairly well, I have picked mold off of a few and had to cut Melissa about a week early due to bugs and mold. I don't know what the people next door sprayed in their greenhouses but I was invaded by a mass of bugs that just was unbelievable this week.
I am going to start by trying photobucket this morning and get some pics posted.



God I hate this fucking program and try to put up a decent looking post, WTF is the deal with posting pictures anymore and keeping the same font throughout?
Anyway the above are Lady Cane at day 73 of flower about another 2 weeks I figure.

Below is Lady Cane #1 the biggest of the buds so far and looking pretty good if you ask me. She has had no problems at all, no bugs to speak of, mold or other issues. She just keeps growing, definitely the biggest buds I have grown at this altittude in the past 4 years. YEA!!

Well I have to go do chores now, it is time for lights on and pull the plants outside. I will have another post in another couple of hours to finish the update, lots of pics to go yet.
Thanks for all the looks, more comments are always welcome.