l.e.ds vs hps

a mongo frog

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I don't NEED co2 either. I use it because I can afford to. Closed enviornment agriculture allows me to keeps bugs out of my room and allows me to Control and eveything with my AC's and dehus . This is a choice. Maybe you should do some reading up on this. If I wanted outside air on my plants I would grow outside
I need co2. I love co2!!!!!!!
 

REALSTYLES

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That 6 lighter looks terrible dude . Empty as fuck too.
Let's see some 12 pound harvest pics outa there. You just insulted your kid by thinking his age should sugguest he's a bad grower. I do pretty well and I'm only 26
Ha I new you were a kid. I was selling weed before you were born and if my math is correct. I've been growing since you were 17yr kick rocks. I knew I'd get you to say your age. I played you little boy.
 

patrickkawi37

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Ha I new you were a kid. I was selling weed before you were born and if my math is correct. I've been growing since you were 17yr kick rocks. I knew I'd get you to say your age. I played you little boy.
So your one of the old dudes that thinks they know everything . Congratulations, by the time I'm your age I'll be retired
 

tstick

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Hey, what's so bad about growing in a tent? I grow for personal use and my little 3 X 3 can produce a year's worth of smoke in one harvest and that's with a small LED light and some supplemental LED bulbs from Home Depot!…Well, tbh, that's if I smoke all the buds and not just the top-quality "best" buds….but, anyway….I'm trying for variety and quality and not so much for quantity. I'm not a drug dealer and I don't grow for a dispensary, either. I can't find any good reason to want to grow a large amount for my own use and, like I said, a 3 X 3 provides plenty of room for that -considering the amount I use per year.

All this "Look at how big my room is." and "I only grow plants that are 19 feet tall…" kinds of stuff is kind of dumb and doesn't really help anyone. Even if you've been growing for decades, unless it applies, directly to the specific technique being used (hydro, soil, etc.) then one person's lifetime experience might not mean a thing. I know a guy who grows 100 plants -all the same strain that he's worked out….he grows in a drain-to-waste hydro system and 1000K HPS lights. He has all his stuff dialed in and, as a result, he gets huge harvests. But, then comes the hard part. He ends up with pounds and pounds. All his old customer base is now just going out to any number of places and buying a variety of different strains. But, my buddy is so much in the flow of how he does things, he ends up in a dilemma. Commercial buyers can only buy from licensed producers. Medical producers also work in an alliance of known producers. So, the only resource left is the black market. That's a big "No thanks!" for me.

But, on the other hand, I can grow 4 plants in 3 gallon buckets per run and get some impressive results for just lil' ol' me!

And I'm old too so don't make fun of the old! ;)
 

REALSTYLES

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Styles! These dudes be buy-in your cobs in 2 years and won't even know it.
Jimmy what's crazy is the old man that showed me was named James Kennedy lol. God bless his soul fucking guy knew how to grow big plants that would yield 8lbs from 8 plants 4 lights the main factor was in the strain as well.
 

churchhaze

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Fixtures closer to canopy, more even canopy, issues if a bulb goes out, more lights under same size space, cannot aircool, stupid purple color) And on top of all of this.. The store I go to doesn't carry the product , so if I have an issue I have to make 70 phone calls and beg someone to warrantee my shit.
So what do we know... Unless you have a small grow and a big budget, or your smart enough and patient enough to make some ghetto ass diy setup .. Or your a rep for an led company spamming us. you would Have to be pretty stupid to think that led >hps
All these issues you listed are false and shows you haven't done any homework. Whenever you're corrected, you ignore it and keep spreading these false points.

1) How close your light needs to be to the canopy has completely to do with how the lamp is designed. Some high density arrays need to be kept extremely far away from the canopy. the cxb3950 designs are meant to be kept far from the canopy. I design my lamps using 2530 specifically so i can be closer to the canopy. It's my choice as a designer. Lamps built using vero 29 or cxb3950 are "high profile designs" like you want. Simply pack on more density... duh.... What's dumb is that a low profile design will actually work in a high profile setup, but not the other way around. You're boasting a DISADVANTAGE of HPS.

2) Nobody here is boasting purple lamps. We're boasting white ones. Repeating "purple" "purple" makes you look dumb as shit. No purple!

If this looks purple to you.... I dunno what to say. You need your eyes checked out. It sounds to me like you're just willfully ignorant.

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3) Go to the right store...

What do "we" know you're asking? Collectively, we know a lot more than you know as an ignorant individual with his head up his ass.. Work on your reading comprehension.
 

churchhaze

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or your smart enough and patient enough to make some ghetto ass diy setup .. Or your a rep for an led company spamming us. you would Have to be pretty stupid to think that led >hps
So you're basically admitting you're not smart enough, but you think smart people make ghetto ass DIY setups? Because you don't understand any of it, you just assume the worst.

Um... Your HPS setup is way more ghetto. Your threads are very telling of it. Do you still want help overloading your 70A circuit to use a 100A breaker??? hmmm? Your house is a fire waiting to happen. You made that very clear with your "help me" threads..... The reality is that my DIY setup is significantly more safe than your "professional drug dealer" setup.. mainly because it was designed by a smart person.
 

REALSTYLES

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So you're basically admitting you're not smart enough, but you think smart people make ghetto ass DIY setups? Because you don't understand any of it, you just assume the worst.

Um... Your HPS setup is way more ghetto. Your threads are very telling of it. Do you still want help overloading your 70A circuit to use a 100A breaker??? hmmm? Your house is a fire waiting to happen. You made that very clear with your "help me" threads..... The reality is that my DIY setup is significantly more safe than your "professional drug dealer" setup.. mainly because it was designed by a smart person.
Church please stop please!!!!!!! I can't drink my Heineken. I can't stop laughing, you are making me waste my beer lol
 

patrickkawi37

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All these issues you listed are false and shows you haven't done any homework. Whenever you're corrected, you ignore it and keep spreading these false points.

1) How close your light needs to be to the canopy has completely to do with how the lamp is designed. Some high density arrays need to be kept extremely far away from the canopy. the cxb3950 designs are meant to be kept far from the canopy. I design my lamps using 2530 specifically so i can be closer to the canopy. It's my choice as a designer. Lamps built using vero 29 or cxb3950 are "high profile designs" like you want. Simply pack on more density... duh.... What's dumb is that a low profile design will actually work in a high profile setup, but not the other way around. You're boasting a DISADVANTAGE of HPS.

2) Nobody here is boasting purple lamps. We're boasting white ones. Repeating "purple" "purple" makes you look dumb as shit. No purple!

If this looks purple to you.... I dunno what to say. You need your eyes checked out. It sounds to me like you're just willfully ignorant.

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3) Go to the right store...

What do "we" know you're asking? Collectively, we know a lot more than you know as an ignorant individual with his head up his ass.. Work on your reading comprehension.
Sweet tent bro! I ain't got time for diy. Busy with big boy grows.
 

churchhaze

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Church please stop please!!!!!!! I can't drink my Heineken. I can't stop laughing, you are making me waste my beer lol
Lol... then he wants to go get the spydr grow max 1200... and he thinks our setups are ghetto!

It would be like calling the computer nerds ghetto for building their own machines back in the day.. I've got my "professional looking" Gateway 2000!! spydr is garbage compared to our "ghetto" rigs. So ignorant.
 

churchhaze

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Sweet tent bro! I ain't got time for diy. Busy with big boy grows.
Your plants look like shit. Learn to grow. You know you put your family at risk when you play with fire. You might want to get a smart person to look at your electrical wiring. You should feel embarrassed by the pictures you posted, but here you are bragging.

Give me 4000W of HPS in a space that's not mine and I will show you the ultimate ghetto bedroom.
 

churchhaze

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So here's the bottom line... This thread wasn't created so some really piss poor HPS growers could completely ignore all the points of LED. Purple purple purple. just drop off the thread. You clearly have nothing to contribute to a discussion about LEDs vs HPS other than you can't grow weed.

A lot of people are genuinely trying to decide whether DIY led is worth it for them, or whether those cheap chinese panels are worth anything. You're only muddying the water. No one was impressed by your HPS grow, even the people who hate.
 

patrickkawi37

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So you're basically admitting you're not smart enough, but you think smart people make ghetto ass DIY setups? Because you don't understand any of it, you just assume the worst.

Um... Your HPS setup is way more ghetto. Your threads are very telling of it. Do you still want help overloading your 70A circuit to use a 100A breaker??? hmmm? Your house is a fire waiting to happen. You made that very clear with your "help me" threads..... The reality is that my DIY setup is significantly more safe than your "professional drug dealer" setup.. mainly because it was designed by a smart person.
Definitely fucked up by hiring a friend to contract that spot. I just had that redone this weekend cost me close to 2gs. We all make mistakes . I don't do anything mechanical or electrical . I grow weed. Fact of the matter is, you don't see the elite growers using leds . Only closet growing know it all hobbyists. Your right I don't have the knowledge to build some diy led setup nor do I care to. i use what works. if your so badass why aren't you growing on a large scale? Since you kill it with these leds. Why aren't you selling your fixtures to large companies? You think your smart , you might be, redneck or tweaker smart. But that's about it . If you believe in it that much than man the fuck up and change the game. Dont sit Here on roll it up posting pics of your closet grows
 

churchhaze

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Definitely fucked up by hiring a friend to contract that spot. I just had that redone this weekend cost me close to 2gs. We all make mistakes . I don't do anything mechanical or electrical . I grow weed. Fact of the matter is, you don't see the elite growers using leds . Only closet growing know it all hobbyists. Your right I don't have the knowledge to build some diy led setup nor do I care to. i use what works. if your so badass why aren't you growing on a large scale? Since you kill it with these leds. Why aren't you selling your fixtures to large companies? You think your smart , you might be, redneck or tweaker smart. But that's about it . If you believe in it that much than man the fuck up and change the game. Dont sit Here on roll it up posting pics of your closet grows
That would never happen to me.
 

churchhaze

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2gs would be enough money to replace 2 of your 4 1000 watt lamps with my diy design btw. You just wasted 2800 dollars on your own ignorance.
 
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