Justifying Corporate Salaries in America

UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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st0wandgrow said:
One side has a sophisticated military capable of raining down hell fire, and the other side has rocks and bricks that they toss, with the occasional suicide bomber sprinkled in. It’s hardly a fair fight.

I would like to see the Palestinians stick to diplomacy, but that’s easy for me to say from the comfort of my suburban, American home. I’m certain that I would feel differently if I had lost 1/2 of my family to my oppressive next door neighbor. Can you not understand how some of them have become radicalized?
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bombs are not rocks and bricks.

so you can understand how the palestinians have been radicalized and that somehow excuses them electing a terrorist organization to power, but what about the israelis? why haven't they been radicalized into electing a genocidal regime?
 
MarWan

MarWan

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UncleBuck said:
so palestine's reaction to having bombs lobbed at them is to elect a terrorist group that wants to kill all jews.

israel's reaction to having bombs lobbed at them by terrorists is to resettle some land? and be tougher at negotiating?

seems disproportionate.
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to make it simple for you, have you ever chased and forced a cat into a corner? What would be the cat's reaction?
your expected reply would suggest that the cat MUST act nice and lick your butthole.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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BrewerT said:
Wow

Palestinians are deny themselves rights? I am pretty sure they voiced a collective opinion when the Zionist state of Israel was created, by the UN. The UN, along with the rest of the Non-Muslim world, think that Jews are God's homeboys and deserve the holy land cause its in the Torah. Yet, Historically, Jews have spent more time being exiled out of the Holy land, then they have actually occupying it...like they do now, with a Jewish "State".

Americans especially so like to paint Jews as victims. And to some large extent they are. But in the context of them occupying the Holy Land....they are terrorist. No different the the "terrorist" they claim that seeks to rid them again.

I am a Jew by birth. I am a non-practicing Jew. My grandmother and grandfather were both killed by the Nazi's.

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If the ethnic groups were to trade sides, Israel would be doing worse things. Just ask the victim states of the "6 day war", really a preemptive strike against 6 other countries. Oh, and they deployed suicide bombers...but no biggie, they are just Jews. Israel is no angel and nor are Jews.

Arguably so, the Gaza and west bank are the largest prisons on this planet. Created and enforced by.....Israel. If Palestinians were to cram every last Jew into Gaza and West Bank, the picture would be no different. One side crying and playing the victim card, the otherside a terrorist.

So yes I support Jews getting a taste, a reminder of what they have been thru. If Israel was to be a humanitarian state instead of a oppressive state, then perhaps groups like Hamas wouldn't even exist. If Jews can not learn to SHARE and COEXIST then THEY ARE THE TERRORIST. And in my opinion, TERRORIST ....all of them, should be removed from earth.

Lest not we forget that Christians were the first to proclaim an attempt to wipe Jews off the planet. In fact, Christians have killed more Jews in history, than the Nazi's did.

I have lived in Tel Aviv. I suggest you spend a year or so there. I suggest trying to get into West Bank or Gaza.( you will die trying)..see the other side of your ideals...up close, in person. You always hear of Hamas shooting rockets into Israels American made " Iron Dome"...which stops about 95% of incoming missiles...what you will never hear, or see on the news...is what you will see in person....

Gaza and West Bank have no real defense. No Iron Dome. All bombs land here...usually on hospitals ( can you believe they care enough to have hospitals) or SCHOOLS...but hey...Jews are the victims. Go there...I promise you wont hold the same fuxed up views
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This is garbage. You have lumped all Jews into a category, as if all Jews are nationalists. "It's ok because I'm a Jew", is not really an excuse for it. If your problem is with Zionists, say your problem is with Zionists. Your rant is worded as though your problem is with Jews. Even fanatical Wahhabi zealots don't make this sort of argument as you have.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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BrewerT said:
Six Million exactly? I am not minimizing anything. Its perpetuated speculation, literally. Jews have been around for about 3500 years. In that time, more have died outside of the Holocaust over the history of Jews, than they did in it.

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10008193

Calculating exactly how many is a impossible task, given the circumstances. More so, documenting how many Jews died in the Crusades or in other accounts of history...is a very undocumented account. There is just no real numbers. It is speculated 6 million died in the Holocaust....I am a jew by Birth. I am not defending the Nazi's period and I appreciate it if you would reconsider your wonder.
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Are you a holocaust denier by birth also?
 
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BrewerT

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abandonconflict said:
His post was holocaust denial by definition. He is questioning the findings of decades of historical investigation. Six million is factual. Constantly reminding us he is Jewish doesn't erase this.
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you are really mislead. did u count? does any accredited group conclude an official number? its an approximate 6 million. not exact 6 to the t. feel free to provide evidence of anything other

while you are doing research, can you find out what numbers my grandparents were in the 6 million..ish

Im a direct descendant of holocaust victims, and you ration I am a denier. WTF FUCK YOU!

THAT IS GARBAGE
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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st0wandgrow said:
One side has a sophisticated military capable of raining down hell fire, and the other side has rocks and bricks that they toss, with the occasional suicide bomber sprinkled in. It’s hardly a fair fight.

I would like to see the Palestinians stick to diplomacy, but that’s easy for me to say from the comfort of my suburban, American home. I’m certain that I would feel differently if I had lost 1/2 of my family to my oppressive next door neighbor. Can you not understand how some of them have become radicalized?
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It's messed up but I can't say what the US would do if Mexican government did nothing to stop radical groups from firing primitve rocket-bombs into US cities along our border. I don't think we would turn the other cheek, I just can't say how violent we would be but we'd respond overwhelmingly. Israel has a lot to answer for but in this one case and only recently, Israel is acting with restraint compared to what most other countries would do in similar circumstances.
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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BrewerT said:
you are really mislead. did u count? does any accredited group conclude an official number? its an approximate 6 million. not exact 6 to the t. feel free to provide evidence of anything other

while you are doing research, can you find out what numbers my grandparents were in the 6 million..ish

Im a direct descendant of holocaust victims, and you ration I am a denier. WTF FUCK YOU!

THAT IS GARBAGE
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So what is the numerical range of people that you accept were murdered by the Nazis?
 
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BrewerT

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abandonconflict said:
His post was holocaust denial by definition. He is questioning the findings of decades of historical investigation. Six million is factual. Constantly reminding us he is Jewish doesn't erase this.
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could you also provide a source of this definition ? its okay to question, it doesnt make you a denier or unbeliever ...it means we care about the truth.,...not what is perpetuated in schools and textbooks...

there is NO officially accepted exact number. Its sad, there should and needs to be. They all need to be identified, and that is and has been impossible to date.

It does not mean i do not believe that millions of jews died in history to nazi's. what i dont believe is 6 million is the empirical answer
 
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