beginningbotanist420
Well-Known Member
So out of no where, a friend of a friend of a friend approched me today. He heard through the grape-vine that i was the man to talk to about growing. This guy [we'll call "Vernon"] is a small-time dealer looking to go big. He's done a few indoor CFL grows before, but "specializes" in guerrila growing. In his apartment, he has 2 closets, a 4'x8' walk-in and a 2'x4' closet. He says i can do what ever i want, as long as i stay on my 1,000$ budget. Sweet! 
My dream grow-room is vertical. I love the yeilds. 1.25+ gram per watt makes my mouth water. My first reaction was a FloJo-type room with 3 600w's run perpetually on 2 week cycles, but this is WAAY out of Vernon's league. Damn it!
What my next thought was running a perpetual Ebb N' Flow SOG with 3 2'x3' tables, each with a 400w HPS hangin above it and a ~50 gallon res below it with a 160gph submersible pump in each one. 3 week cycles, roughly 6-12 clones per table. Mylar EVERYWHERE. Figure i could pull atleast a pound every harvest; hook, line, sink!
For the moms/clones, i was gonna kinda section off the room into 2 2'x2' areas. I was gonna put a 250w MH over the moms, and CFL's/T5's for the clones. I'm gonna have the mom's in a DWC, and the clones in a dripper system.
As ventilation, was gonna get a 12" 1140cfm Vortex for the flowering room [~256 cubic feet], and a 6" 440cfm Panasonic Whisper fan for the veg side [~64 cubic feet]. Is this enough, or too much fan? Both are going to have osc fans. As for odor control, i was going to get a ozone generator and place it directly below the flower exhaust.
But there are some issues:
-Being my first grow room, i have NO experience setting up rooms. I have done ~7 grow boxes, but thats not good enough. I need to know the little tricks and tips that i can only get from experience. Does all this look good? Am i missing anything or am i doing anything extra?
-I have a relatively small budget [$1,000] and my plan is probably gonna be more than this (i haven't done any price checks/research yet). I need some tips on how to make $1,000 look and function like $2,500. I need to cut financial corners, without cutting function. The fans alone are ~$500 alone. I'm gonna have to do a bunch of DIY's, but that's not gonna cut it. Vernon just wants a working room ASAP; but, this is my calling. I want to set up THE best room i can just for personal pride, and thats hard to do with $1,000.
-Apartment. Vernon is renting. Correct me if I'm wrong, but i cant cut holes or paint walls. I can't physically modify any walls at all. How do i vent? How do i route the power needed to run a 1800w+ room?
-Vernon is completely new to Hydro [as am i, but i know and understand what happens and why its happening]. Will this be too hard to teach him, or will he HAVE to stay soil? He has his heart set on Hydro, but i can convince him to stay soil if i have to.
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As for now, all this is hypothetical. I have to "pitch" my plan to him this weekend. We talked for about an hour today, but he told me to get all my ducks in a row and come back with a solid plan and some numbers. There's a 90% chance that i will, so i need to take this seriously. I have never been so enthusiastic about anything in my life. I need y'alls input to be able to have him sold for sure. I'm confident i could do it as is [just by throwing a bunch a terms at him and sounding confident about it], but better be safe then sorry.
I know i just made you read a novel, sorry...
My dream grow-room is vertical. I love the yeilds. 1.25+ gram per watt makes my mouth water. My first reaction was a FloJo-type room with 3 600w's run perpetually on 2 week cycles, but this is WAAY out of Vernon's league. Damn it!
What my next thought was running a perpetual Ebb N' Flow SOG with 3 2'x3' tables, each with a 400w HPS hangin above it and a ~50 gallon res below it with a 160gph submersible pump in each one. 3 week cycles, roughly 6-12 clones per table. Mylar EVERYWHERE. Figure i could pull atleast a pound every harvest; hook, line, sink!
For the moms/clones, i was gonna kinda section off the room into 2 2'x2' areas. I was gonna put a 250w MH over the moms, and CFL's/T5's for the clones. I'm gonna have the mom's in a DWC, and the clones in a dripper system.
As ventilation, was gonna get a 12" 1140cfm Vortex for the flowering room [~256 cubic feet], and a 6" 440cfm Panasonic Whisper fan for the veg side [~64 cubic feet]. Is this enough, or too much fan? Both are going to have osc fans. As for odor control, i was going to get a ozone generator and place it directly below the flower exhaust.
But there are some issues:
-Being my first grow room, i have NO experience setting up rooms. I have done ~7 grow boxes, but thats not good enough. I need to know the little tricks and tips that i can only get from experience. Does all this look good? Am i missing anything or am i doing anything extra?
-I have a relatively small budget [$1,000] and my plan is probably gonna be more than this (i haven't done any price checks/research yet). I need some tips on how to make $1,000 look and function like $2,500. I need to cut financial corners, without cutting function. The fans alone are ~$500 alone. I'm gonna have to do a bunch of DIY's, but that's not gonna cut it. Vernon just wants a working room ASAP; but, this is my calling. I want to set up THE best room i can just for personal pride, and thats hard to do with $1,000.
-Apartment. Vernon is renting. Correct me if I'm wrong, but i cant cut holes or paint walls. I can't physically modify any walls at all. How do i vent? How do i route the power needed to run a 1800w+ room?
-Vernon is completely new to Hydro [as am i, but i know and understand what happens and why its happening]. Will this be too hard to teach him, or will he HAVE to stay soil? He has his heart set on Hydro, but i can convince him to stay soil if i have to.
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As for now, all this is hypothetical. I have to "pitch" my plan to him this weekend. We talked for about an hour today, but he told me to get all my ducks in a row and come back with a solid plan and some numbers. There's a 90% chance that i will, so i need to take this seriously. I have never been so enthusiastic about anything in my life. I need y'alls input to be able to have him sold for sure. I'm confident i could do it as is [just by throwing a bunch a terms at him and sounding confident about it], but better be safe then sorry.
I know i just made you read a novel, sorry...
