Jubilee and Assassin's Guilds Through History

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
When people think of "Slavery" they think of what happened in America, and how people were completely mistreated. And that is a form of Slavery, but there is another form of Slavery that we still use, but it's not really considered slavery any more.

In the Bible, people would become slaves in order to get something from someone. For example, there is a story of a guy you gives himself up as a slave for 7 years to marry a guys daughter, then the guy tricks him and gives him his other daughter who was not as pretty. Then the guy goes back in to slavery for 7 years in order to marry the other daughter. Then there was debt repayment. If you owed someone money, they could make you work for them until your debt was paid off. I don't have any debt, but I have noticed that in America when people go to college they end up with tons of debt, that they then have to work off. This is not them being whipped and chained, but they are in a form of slavery.

If anyone feels like a Slave, there is an ancient Symbol you can use to show you recognize you are a slave and are sick of it. In Ancient Rome a bunch of slaves were freed, around 200 BC, and to signal this, the Emperor took a hat that looked like a red Santa hat, just with no fluff on it, and he put it on top of a pole. Slaves wore Santa hats in Ancient Rome, so this was a Symbol that they had been freed.

Since then, that symbols has become known as "The Liberty Pole", and if you look up "American Revolution" you will notice people in the drawings have Red Santa hats with no Fluff on them.

The Santa hat on a Pole was the Roman symbol for Freed slaves, and it was basically to a Symbol of Jubilee. The Red hat can also be found in drawing of "The American Revolution", usually the drummers or soldiers on the American side have them on.

You have probably heard of a Guillotine, the things that people chop the heads off with. The French people were ruled by an Oligarchy, and they were basically slaves to their wealthy over class. They wanted to fix it, and the rich people would not let them change their government. So they started chopping off people's heads.

If you look up "Guillotine" and go to images, the same "Santa" hat that is used to Symbolize Liberty and Freedom, is being worn by the people who are working the Guillotines. They are killing the rich people, and it was their Jubilee, because the rich would not let them have it. So they took it.

This is more similar to the Jubilee in Fight Club, where Tyler Durden causes a big distraction with the working class and blows up the Credit Bureaus. But he made sure no one was inside them, so he wasn't trying to kill anyone. But they had to take it.

Jubilee is a common theme throughout history, though it is not always called that. "Revolution" is a more modern form of Jubilee.

If you have ever played Assassins Creed, you probably have heard of "Assassins" and wondered if their was any Historical basis for the game. If you are looking for evidence of an Italian Assassin guild, or an American Assassin guild, you might be able to do it, but not deep deep in history. So you probably automatically assume Ninjas are the precursor to Assassins, and Assassins come from Asia. But they do not. Assassins come from "Hashashins" and they are from the Islamic Tradition.

Hashashins were made famous by a guy called "The Old Man of the Mountain", his real name was Rashid ad-Din Sinan.

The Leader of the Hashashins was Hassan-i Sabbah. He was basically an Islamic Missionary, and his people were being conquered. So he started a "Secret Society" where people joined his Mission in an underground manner, then took a fortress on a mountain by slowly working their way into the guard positions. They all got hired as guards and snuck inside and stuff, then they just pulled out their weapons and told everyone that the fortress was theirs now.

From the fortress on the mountain, they launched attacks and fought of sieges from the enemy army.

The Assassins/Hashashins grew, and eventually they became an enemy to the Knights Templar. When you hear of the Christians and Muslims "fighting over the Holy Land", it was the Assassins Vs The Knights Templar.

The Hashashins were not only known for the one mountain fort and their ability to defend it, but they were also considered formidable by both Christian and Muslim armies. They were known for getting hired or bought as slaves, so that they could get in to the Palaces and camps of other factions leaders, then they would either gather information from that group, or they would continue to plant members in the group until there were more of them than there were actual guards or slaves. Just like the American/French Revolutionaries and the Freed Roman slaves, the Hashashins were known for wearing Santa hats/Phrygian Caps.


You may be wondering "If the Hashashins and the American Revolutionaries and Roman slaves were all wearing Santa hats/Phrygian Caps/Liberty Caps, was there a connection or are they just random groups that both thought the Santa hat was cool? There is a connection. America was not founded by Assassins, but when America was founded, the people living there were Christian, and the other Christian nations wanted to kill them. They were helped by the Santa hat tradition.

If I say the word "Pirate" you automatically picture a few things. An Eye patch, a Peg Leg, a Parrot, and a Curved Sword. The reason you imagine the Curved sword, is because a large portion of what we now call "Pirates" were Barbary Pirates. If you look up "Barbary Pirates" you will find paintings and stuff of people wearing Santa hats.

Then if you look up "Ottoman Soldier" you will find paintings of more people with these hats. The Ottoman Empire was the empire that protected America from the other Christians. When the American flag was first made, it was used on boats, and anyone who saw one would attack that ship. Once the Ottoman empire signed the "Treaty of Peace and Friendship" with America, it officially made America a nation. Because a nation just means that you are an entity that has a treaty with various other nations. That is the only thing that makes a nation a recognized nation. The Ottoman empire is not talked about much, but the British Empire was not such a big problem once America had protection at sea.

If you looked up "Ottoman Soldier" and "Barbary Pirate" and "Hashashin" you probably saw a people that looked pretty Muslim, and think I am talking about Muslim ideology. This is NOT Muslim ideology. It goes further back than Christianity and Islam, you can find more about the Santa hat by looking up "Mithra" and "Phrygia".

But if you want to see how America, France and Santa hat ideology all tie together, all you have to do is look up "Zouave". These are French Soldiers that fought in the Civil war, and if you didn't know they were French, you would think they were from the Middle East.
 

Mr. Bongwater

Well-Known Member
nothing much

been looking into to mechanical mods and RDAs as a Christmas present for myself hahaha


and ive been dealing with bullshit since i moved back to Virginia



what about u man
same ol same ol working at some shitty fish plant smoking weed and getting drunk all the time lollol, i love Christmas, can't wait.

can't wait to play the new assassians creed game too
 

tytheguy111

Well-Known Member
same ol same ol working at some shitty fish plant smoking weed and getting drunk all the time lollol, i love Christmas, can't wait.

can't wait to play the new assassians creed game too



hahaha yeah the last creed i played was the one with coner i want to get the pirouette one soo fucking bad and i would but i lost my hard drive to my xbox during the move
 

mr sunshine

Well-Known Member
When people think of "Slavery" they think of what happened in America, and how people were completely mistreated. And that is a form of Slavery, but there is another form of Slavery that we still use, but it's not really considered slavery any more.

In the Bible, people would become slaves in order to get something from someone. For example, there is a story of a guy you gives himself up as a slave for 7 years to marry a guys daughter, then the guy tricks him and gives him his other daughter who was not as pretty. Then the guy goes back in to slavery for 7 years in order to marry the other daughter. Then there was debt repayment. If you owed someone money, they could make you work for them until your debt was paid off. I don't have any debt, but I have noticed that in America when people go to college they end up with tons of debt, that they then have to work off. This is not them being whipped and chained, but they are in a form of slavery.

If anyone feels like a Slave, there is an ancient Symbol you can use to show you recognize you are a slave and are sick of it. In Ancient Rome a bunch of slaves were freed, around 200 BC, and to signal this, the Emperor took a hat that looked like a red Santa hat, just with no fluff on it, and he put it on top of a pole. Slaves wore Santa hats in Ancient Rome, so this was a Symbol that they had been freed.

Since then, that symbols has become known as "The Liberty Pole", and if you look up "American Revolution" you will notice people in the drawings have Red Santa hats with no Fluff on them.

The Santa hat on a Pole was the Roman symbol for Freed slaves, and it was basically to a Symbol of Jubilee. The Red hat can also be found in drawing of "The American Revolution", usually the drummers or soldiers on the American side have them on.

You have probably heard of a Guillotine, the things that people chop the heads off with. The French people were ruled by an Oligarchy, and they were basically slaves to their wealthy over class. They wanted to fix it, and the rich people would not let them change their government. So they started chopping off people's heads.

If you look up "Guillotine" and go to images, the same "Santa" hat that is used to Symbolize Liberty and Freedom, is being worn by the people who are working the Guillotines. They are killing the rich people, and it was their Jubilee, because the rich would not let them have it. So they took it.

This is more similar to the Jubilee in Fight Club, where Tyler Durden causes a big distraction with the working class and blows up the Credit Bureaus. But he made sure no one was inside them, so he wasn't trying to kill anyone. But they had to take it.

Jubilee is a common theme throughout history, though it is not always called that. "Revolution" is a more modern form of Jubilee.

If you have ever played Assassins Creed, you probably have heard of "Assassins" and wondered if their was any Historical basis for the game. If you are looking for evidence of an Italian Assassin guild, or an American Assassin guild, you might be able to do it, but not deep deep in history. So you probably automatically assume Ninjas are the precursor to Assassins, and Assassins come from Asia. But they do not. Assassins come from "Hashashins" and they are from the Islamic Tradition.

Hashashins were made famous by a guy called "The Old Man of the Mountain", his real name was Rashid ad-Din Sinan.

The Leader of the Hashashins was Hassan-i Sabbah. He was basically an Islamic Missionary, and his people were being conquered. So he started a "Secret Society" where people joined his Mission in an underground manner, then took a fortress on a mountain by slowly working their way into the guard positions. They all got hired as guards and snuck inside and stuff, then they just pulled out their weapons and told everyone that the fortress was theirs now.

From the fortress on the mountain, they launched attacks and fought of sieges from the enemy army.

The Assassins/Hashashins grew, and eventually they became an enemy to the Knights Templar. When you hear of the Christians and Muslims "fighting over the Holy Land", it was the Assassins Vs The Knights Templar.

The Hashashins were not only known for the one mountain fort and their ability to defend it, but they were also considered formidable by both Christian and Muslim armies. They were known for getting hired or bought as slaves, so that they could get in to the Palaces and camps of other factions leaders, then they would either gather information from that group, or they would continue to plant members in the group until there were more of them than there were actual guards or slaves. Just like the American/French Revolutionaries and the Freed Roman slaves, the Hashashins were known for wearing Santa hats/Phrygian Caps.


You may be wondering "If the Hashashins and the American Revolutionaries and Roman slaves were all wearing Santa hats/Phrygian Caps/Liberty Caps, was there a connection or are they just random groups that both thought the Santa hat was cool? There is a connection. America was not founded by Assassins, but when America was founded, the people living there were Christian, and the other Christian nations wanted to kill them. They were helped by the Santa hat tradition.

If I say the word "Pirate" you automatically picture a few things. An Eye patch, a Peg Leg, a Parrot, and a Curved Sword. The reason you imagine the Curved sword, is because a large portion of what we now call "Pirates" were Barbary Pirates. If you look up "Barbary Pirates" you will find paintings and stuff of people wearing Santa hats.

Then if you look up "Ottoman Soldier" you will find paintings of more people with these hats. The Ottoman Empire was the empire that protected America from the other Christians. When the American flag was first made, it was used on boats, and anyone who saw one would attack that ship. Once the Ottoman empire signed the "Treaty of Peace and Friendship" with America, it officially made America a nation. Because a nation just means that you are an entity that has a treaty with various other nations. That is the only thing that makes a nation a recognized nation. The Ottoman empire is not talked about much, but the British Empire was not such a big problem once America had protection at sea.

If you looked up "Ottoman Soldier" and "Barbary Pirate" and "Hashashin" you probably saw a people that looked pretty Muslim, and think I am talking about Muslim ideology. This is NOT Muslim ideology. It goes further back than Christianity and Islam, you can find more about the Santa hat by looking up "Mithra" and "Phrygia".

But if you want to see how America, France and Santa hat ideology all tie together, all you have to do is look up "Zouave". These are French Soldiers that fought in the Civil war, and if you didn't know they were French, you would think they were from the Middle East.
I have a few questions!
How can you possibly know what people think of when they think of slavery?


If you choose to take a loan from anyone!!(your choice) in your opinion holding up your end of the bargain or repaying the money that you borrowed is a form of slavery?


How do you know what I automatically picture when you say the word pirate?
 

tytheguy111

Well-Known Member
I have a few questions!
How can you possibly know what people think of when they think of slavery?


If you choose to take a loan from anyone!!(your choice) in your opinion holding up your end of the bargain or repaying the money that you borrowed is a form of slavery?


How do you know what I automatically picture when you say the word pirate?



When I think of slavery


I think of how the history books got the civil war wrong
 

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
I have a few questions!
How can you possibly know what people think of when they think of slavery?


If you choose to take a loan from anyone!!(your choice) in your opinion holding up your end of the bargain or repaying the money that you borrowed is a form of slavery?


How do you know what I automatically picture when you say the word pirate?
Because I have heard the Christians and the Atheists debate a lot, and they are from all different countries, and even the Christians who know about debt slavery have to teach the other Christians about it so they can argue that not all forms of slavery are "bad", so God is not evil. And I have personal experience, I have never heard anyone talk about slavery in general and mean anything but whips and chains.

Same with Pirate, personal experience. And not only has Pirates of the Caribbean given us these similar ideas, but they could be found in cartoon and other forms before that was even made.

I remember a cartoon about treasure island, and Pirates were marked by those items.
 

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
Christmas is the Holiday that most correlates with this tradition. The Christmas tree did not start as something people brought inside their house, and the Christmas tree has nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity.

The Christmas tree came to America from Germany in the 1800s. And the Germans got it from an even older Tradition. In Europe they used to have the "Mithras Tree". Mithra can be found in almost every culture. In Zoroastrianism, Mithra is "Mica". In Rome, Mithra was known as Mitra, and in India. The Mithra culture in Europe was known for decorating Pine trees outside, and they would wait for Mushrooms to grow underneath. This is why you put Christmas presents under the tree. It is not representative of Jesus, it is representative of Mushrooms growing under Pine trees in the woods.

The Mithraic religion is known to have become the Government cult in Ancient Rome, and there were people that would go through the ceremony of killing the bull as a type of "Right of Passage". Mithra was known for killing a bull, as well as wearing a red cape. You have probably heard of Bull Fighting, and you will notice that the Bull Fighter waves a red cape, and kills a bull. This is the Mithra ceremony. Christmas is not the only place we can find Mithra today, but it is the main place in America that we see it.

But if you go to the Middle East, right next to Saudi Arabia, there is a country known as "Oman". If you have ever heard of the Oman culture, you probably heard of it because the Oman men have to wear weird knives, and some schools around the world don't like them bringing the knives to school, so they are on the news sometimes.

This knife is in a "J" shape, and it is a knife that was HEAVILY associated with Mithra in the past, it was considered like "His knife" the same way the "Bowie Knife" is associated with Bowie. In Oman the knife is given to them when they "become men". So it is still basically the same as how they used to kill the bull as a right of passage.
 

PorterRockwell

Well-Known Member
When people think of "Slavery" they think of what happened in America, and how people were completely mistreated. And that is a form of Slavery, but there is another form of Slavery that we still use, but it's not really considered slavery any more.

In the Bible, people would become slaves in order to get something from someone. For example, there is a story of a guy you gives himself up as a slave for 7 years to marry a guys daughter, then the guy tricks him and gives him his other daughter who was not as pretty. Then the guy goes back in to slavery for 7 years in order to marry the other daughter. Then there was debt repayment. If you owed someone money, they could make you work for them until your debt was paid off. I don't have any debt, but I have noticed that in America when people go to college they end up with tons of debt, that they then have to work off. This is not them being whipped and chained, but they are in a form of slavery.

If anyone feels like a Slave, there is an ancient Symbol you can use to show you recognize you are a slave and are sick of it. In Ancient Rome a bunch of slaves were freed, around 200 BC, and to signal this, the Emperor took a hat that looked like a red Santa hat, just with no fluff on it, and he put it on top of a pole. Slaves wore Santa hats in Ancient Rome, so this was a Symbol that they had been freed.

Since then, that symbols has become known as "The Liberty Pole", and if you look up "American Revolution" you will notice people in the drawings have Red Santa hats with no Fluff on them.

The Santa hat on a Pole was the Roman symbol for Freed slaves, and it was basically to a Symbol of Jubilee. The Red hat can also be found in drawing of "The American Revolution", usually the drummers or soldiers on the American side have them on.

You have probably heard of a Guillotine, the things that people chop the heads off with. The French people were ruled by an Oligarchy, and they were basically slaves to their wealthy over class. They wanted to fix it, and the rich people would not let them change their government. So they started chopping off people's heads.

If you look up "Guillotine" and go to images, the same "Santa" hat that is used to Symbolize Liberty and Freedom, is being worn by the people who are working the Guillotines. They are killing the rich people, and it was their Jubilee, because the rich would not let them have it. So they took it.

This is more similar to the Jubilee in Fight Club, where Tyler Durden causes a big distraction with the working class and blows up the Credit Bureaus. But he made sure no one was inside them, so he wasn't trying to kill anyone. But they had to take it.

Jubilee is a common theme throughout history, though it is not always called that. "Revolution" is a more modern form of Jubilee.

If you have ever played Assassins Creed, you probably have heard of "Assassins" and wondered if their was any Historical basis for the game. If you are looking for evidence of an Italian Assassin guild, or an American Assassin guild, you might be able to do it, but not deep deep in history. So you probably automatically assume Ninjas are the precursor to Assassins, and Assassins come from Asia. But they do not. Assassins come from "Hashashins" and they are from the Islamic Tradition.

Hashashins were made famous by a guy called "The Old Man of the Mountain", his real name was Rashid ad-Din Sinan.

The Leader of the Hashashins was Hassan-i Sabbah. He was basically an Islamic Missionary, and his people were being conquered. So he started a "Secret Society" where people joined his Mission in an underground manner, then took a fortress on a mountain by slowly working their way into the guard positions. They all got hired as guards and snuck inside and stuff, then they just pulled out their weapons and told everyone that the fortress was theirs now.

From the fortress on the mountain, they launched attacks and fought of sieges from the enemy army.

The Assassins/Hashashins grew, and eventually they became an enemy to the Knights Templar. When you hear of the Christians and Muslims "fighting over the Holy Land", it was the Assassins Vs The Knights Templar.

The Hashashins were not only known for the one mountain fort and their ability to defend it, but they were also considered formidable by both Christian and Muslim armies. They were known for getting hired or bought as slaves, so that they could get in to the Palaces and camps of other factions leaders, then they would either gather information from that group, or they would continue to plant members in the group until there were more of them than there were actual guards or slaves. Just like the American/French Revolutionaries and the Freed Roman slaves, the Hashashins were known for wearing Santa hats/Phrygian Caps.


You may be wondering "If the Hashashins and the American Revolutionaries and Roman slaves were all wearing Santa hats/Phrygian Caps/Liberty Caps, was there a connection or are they just random groups that both thought the Santa hat was cool? There is a connection. America was not founded by Assassins, but when America was founded, the people living there were Christian, and the other Christian nations wanted to kill them. They were helped by the Santa hat tradition.

If I say the word "Pirate" you automatically picture a few things. An Eye patch, a Peg Leg, a Parrot, and a Curved Sword. The reason you imagine the Curved sword, is because a large portion of what we now call "Pirates" were Barbary Pirates. If you look up "Barbary Pirates" you will find paintings and stuff of people wearing Santa hats.

Then if you look up "Ottoman Soldier" you will find paintings of more people with these hats. The Ottoman Empire was the empire that protected America from the other Christians. When the American flag was first made, it was used on boats, and anyone who saw one would attack that ship. Once the Ottoman empire signed the "Treaty of Peace and Friendship" with America, it officially made America a nation. Because a nation just means that you are an entity that has a treaty with various other nations. That is the only thing that makes a nation a recognized nation. The Ottoman empire is not talked about much, but the British Empire was not such a big problem once America had protection at sea.

If you looked up "Ottoman Soldier" and "Barbary Pirate" and "Hashashin" you probably saw a people that looked pretty Muslim, and think I am talking about Muslim ideology. This is NOT Muslim ideology. It goes further back than Christianity and Islam, you can find more about the Santa hat by looking up "Mithra" and "Phrygia".

But if you want to see how America, France and Santa hat ideology all tie together, all you have to do is look up "Zouave". These are French Soldiers that fought in the Civil war, and if you didn't know they were French, you would think they were from the Middle East.
you
Need to read a book called "the unanointed" it's about Joab (King David's tactician an assassin)
 
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