Jewish leaders meet Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in NYC

Canna Sylvan

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its about subjective hate . . i can hate act A but this other act , act B, its was justified . . .its BS

whatever belief sytem you use, it is biased if one perosn wrong doings are wrong and anothers is ok
I hate all the acts in Religion's play. Although there are a few scenes that are hilarious at times.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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you are no better then the religions you hate, hate out of ignorance is not good, hate of our understanding even worse

thats how genocide happens,

hate is never a justifiable emotion, it stems from a primal place of fear and ignornance

. .it is a unjustifiable reaction to emotion
 

Dr Kynes

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you are no better then the religions you hate, hate out of ignorance is not good, hate of our understanding even worse

thats how genocide happens,

hate is never a justifiable emotion, it stems from a primal place of fear and ignornance

. .it is a unjustifiable reaction to emotion
ey now mate, my hatred is well earned richly deserved and ladeled out sparingly only to those who really really need a helping.


i dont hate catholics for what catholics did to my people for hundreds of years, but likewise i dont want catholics to have any power over me and mine ever again. which i think seems sensible.

just like italy banning facist parties for nearly 60 years, or black people not voting for a "reformed" klansman like david duke, or the israelis being doubbtful of the pallie's sincerity in the next round of phony peace talks that are really just an attempt to extort more concessions before the violence starts up again.

hate is often a result of hard won lessons.

when i was little i lived next door to a black family with a couple kids my age, we played together all the time, and i didnt even recognize that they were different from any other kids in the neighborhood.

then i wnet to junior high in a new school in a different part of town. there i learned that black kids dont associate with honkeys, and likewise i was expected by the other white kids to NOT associate with my best friend simply because he was black. unfortunately he was at a different school (for racial integration reasons i was bussed across town) and a short time later they moved away. from that point on, for the next 5 years i had ZERO positive interaction with black people. NONE.

as one of the few white kids at that school i was expected to only associate with the other whites, and it was the black kids who wanted it that way. i got in many fights, as i was the largest white kid in school, and my naturally friendly and gregarious nature was not what was expected many of the black kids decided i was that honkey to fuck with. on numerous occasions the larger black kids would dare the smaller ones to "steal on that honkey" with the expectation that i would not fight them all. they were wrong. i was nearly expelled on several ocaisions and i was daily accused of being a racist, a bigot, and a white supremacist. funny thing is i NEVER STARTED A FIGHT IN MY LIFE. i just win them.

it wasnt until i went to LA that i started meeting black people who were not automatically hostile to my presence, and i still dont assume somebody is an asshole based on their skin color, but my personal experience has taught me well, if there are 3 or more black males under 30 in a group, trouble is likely to ensue. so far thats been spot on. usually its name calling, insults or posturing but now and again i still find my self in a position to tussle with a few dipshits with chips on their shoulders, and they are usually not my fellow rednecks. nor chicanos, nor asians. ill let you figure out who likes to start fights with the big cracker with the easy smile and the limp.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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i only put effort into things in life that serve a purpose . . . .hate serves no purpose . . . accept to self destructive behaviors as hate for the most part breeds more hate . . . stop the hate and let the pain or fear or emotions go, it serves no good other then to hold you back and put up barriers in your life

having hate and defending your hate are two different reactions to the same scenario . . . learning to understand, helps you accept others for there hate and after that it is a lot easier to objectionably look at life, with out all the finger pointing and responsibility chucking
 

Padawanbater2

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ey now mate, my hatred is well earned richly deserved and ladeled out sparingly only to those who really really need a helping.


i dont hate catholics for what catholics did to my people for hundreds of years, but likewise i dont want catholics to have any power over me and mine ever again. which i think seems sensible.

just like italy banning facist parties for nearly 60 years, or black people not voting for a "reformed" klansman like david duke, or the israelis being doubbtful of the pallie's sincerity in the next round of phony peace talks that are really just an attempt to extort more concessions before the violence starts up again.

hate is often a result of hard won lessons.

when i was little i lived next door to a black family with a couple kids my age, we played together all the time, and i didnt even recognize that they were different from any other kids in the neighborhood.

then i wnet to junior high in a new school in a different part of town. there i learned that black kids dont associate with honkeys, and likewise i was expected by the other white kids to NOT associate with my best friend simply because he was black. unfortunately he was at a different school (for racial integration reasons i was bussed across town) and a short time later they moved away. from that point on, for the next 5 years i had ZERO positive interaction with black people. NONE.

as one of the few white kids at that school i was expected to only associate with the other whites, and it was the black kids who wanted it that way. i got in many fights, as i was the largest white kid in school, and my naturally friendly and gregarious nature was not what was expected many of the black kids decided i was that honkey to fuck with. on numerous occasions the larger black kids would dare the smaller ones to "steal on that honkey" with the expectation that i would not fight them all. they were wrong. i was nearly expelled on several ocaisions and i was daily accused of being a racist, a bigot, and a white supremacist. funny thing is i NEVER STARTED A FIGHT IN MY LIFE. i just win them.

it wasnt until i went to LA that i started meeting black people who were not automatically hostile to my presence, and i still dont assume somebody is an asshole based on their skin color, but my personal experience has taught me well, if there are 3 or more black males under 30 in a group, trouble is likely to ensue. so far thats been spot on. usually its name calling, insults or posturing but now and again i still find my self in a position to tussle with a few dipshits with chips on their shoulders, and they are usually not my fellow rednecks. nor chicanos, nor asians. ill let you figure out who likes to start fights with the big cracker with the easy smile and the limp.
SSW is right, it is an unjustifiable reaction to emotion.

Have times not changed since you were a kid in an essentially segregated school? Does that matter?
 

Dr Kynes

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times aint changed that much since the late 70's, and i was bussed to a different school across town so that the ethnic balance would please some liberal dixckwad, not because the schools were segregated.

the school 3 blocks from my hose was old, built in the 40's, the school i went to was new, built just 2 years prior but positioned in an area that did not have enough white kids to acheive the desired racial baalance. i went to a BETTER school than i would have without the bussing in every respect except i was the new kid in the town i lived in all my life and the white kid in a class that was mostly black and asian (the asian kids never gave me any shit, so whats that about?) solely to justify some lefty's wet dream of a colourblind society by separating me from my freinds and neighbors in an ethnically diverse neighborhood so i can be the token whitey in a school that was built in an are with few honkeys.

it may make sense to assholes with clipboards and statistical tables who think kid-unit A is equivalent and identical to kid-unit B so you can mix them up till you get the proper blend for your age of aquarius vision of life, but down on the street level it was fucked up.

these dickhead move people around like pawns on a chessboard, but the fucked up thing is, they are playing checkers. they dont even know the rules of the game and they think they are in charge.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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"times aint change" is no justification for they shouldn't have . . and well "you lead by example"

the attitude that it was good enough for me so its good enough for all, is a good fallacy

hate in any form is unwarranted reaction . . at least to me

dont get me wrong im no monk or buhdist

and it is why i have this feeling as i used to be very hateful in my own way

life is about rationalizing the right choices vs the wrong choices . .or at least being an adult in life . . . vs a victim of it
 

Dr Kynes

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"times aint change" is no justification for they shouldn't have . . and well "you lead by example"

the attitude that it was good enough for me so its good enough for all, is a good fallacy

hate in any form is unwarranted reaction . . at least to me

dont get me wrong im no monk or buhdist

and it is why i have this feeling as i used to be very hateful in my own way

life is about rationalizing the right choices vs the wrong choices . .or at least being a adult in life . . . vs a victim of it
who had choices? i sure the fuck didnt.

i was informed by the school board that i had to take a 40 minute bus ride every morning so some liberal weenie could declare that this school had an ethnic balance pleasing to the gods of liberalism.

meanwhile the girl i was sweet on since the 4th grade went to the school i shoulda gone to, while i was stuck on a bus 40 minutes each way so i could enjoy the privilege of being their token cracker. oh yeah, and if the bus didnt show,, who had to walk?

<----- this guy.

fuckem.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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you are in control how you feel and react . .. or are you a victim of your own emotions as well

i was beat by many people as a child . . . . . it makes zero sense to dwell on it, or even give it a second thought as that mindset of being a victim is not doing me any good, im am not a slave to my past or my future

neither are you
 

Canna Sylvan

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you are in control how you feel and react . .. or are you a victim of your own emotions as well

i was beat by many people as a child . . . . . it makes zero sense to dwell on it, or even give it a second thought as that mindset of being a victim is not doing me any good, im am not a slave to my past or my future

neither are you
Want me to pull up that quote of you saying it was justified for the black Rodney King riots because of generations of abuse? :dunce:

Liberals, gotta love 'em.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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i think your foxing me . . . .i said that it is understandable why, never said it was OK . . .

context . . . . . . .want me to go find some trivial fact, taken out of context, about something that has nothing to do with this argument but instead only meant to derail your position or opinion . . .. . .funny how you people try to have conversations but in the end are just looking for your chance to prove someone wrong in some way, which in no way invalidates anyone or MItt romeny would be your choice for president . . .but ok


Want me to pull up that quote of you saying it was justified for the black Rodney King riots because of generations of abuse?


Liberals, gotta love 'em.
waiting . . . Mirror UB
 

Dr Kynes

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Want me to pull up that quote of you saying it was justified for the black Rodney King riots because of generations of abuse? :dunce:

Liberals, gotta love 'em.
ohh pish, did he not make it clear that the past is the past and we cant keep looking back? :-?

anyhoo sammy, i learned my lesson back then, when some asshole with a clipboard tells me i gotta do something i wanna know why, not the fake reason, the real reason, and the real reason was if the asshole with the clipboard didnt check off the "properly racially integrated" box on his form the school wouldnt get some bonus federal monies. which they wasted on stupid shit. since i quituated that school system it has gone bankrupt twice and is currently in it's mystical THIRD bankruptcy despite all the funding they get from the state and feds.

the superintendant has a nice jag though. i did his brakes a coupe, times. you do the math.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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someones butt hurt . . go get victimized . .seems to be your thing . . fear

letting the past dictate your future

you learn from mistakes or unpleasantness . .

those who fail to heed the mistakes of the past, are destined to repeat them


i know people here and abroad who have had it much worse, then either of us, and do not hide behind skeptism and doubt as a way to not let others hurt them . . .i underastand you to a degree i was an outcast and also beat up on and off the bus and had to walk miles home somtimes . . . .
 

Padawanbater2

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you are in control how you feel and react . .. or are you a victim of your own emotions as well

i was beat by many people as a child . . . . . it makes zero sense to dwell on it, or even give it a second thought as that mindset of being a victim is not doing me any good, im am not a slave to my past or my future

neither are you
QFT. Excellent post SSW + rep.

On par with exactly what I'm thinking. Keynes, you seem to be harboring an enormous sense of resentment towards what you view as 'left wing' or 'liberal' because of past experiences. And much like today's Republican party, what 'liberal' or 'left wing' doesn't mean today what it did when you were in school. I feel like anything with the slightest inclination towards left wing politics or liberal thinking automatically gets a "FUCK THAT SHIT" attitude from you, which is a huge mistake on your part. As I've said before, nobody is 100% liberal or conservative and that's a point our politicians prey on, they expect you to feel the way you do and use that to their advantage. In today's world, it really is you and me vs. them (the politicians). It's not left vs. right, that is nothing but a distraction, divide and conquer. You and me fighting together for real answers and demanding real progress and change is the enemy to American politics. Our politicians know that, they do everything in their power to make sure the left/right issue is at the top of the list. The empower entire news organizations to complete the task. Fox News, MSNBC... you and I can both see the game that's being played. Everything, almost everything is bought, everyone in politics is paid for, corruption is rampant like never before and their voting record proves it. Left, right, no difference at all. The collective goal of American politics is to keep you as scared as possible while keeping you as uninformed as possible. We're at a time right now where that shit still passes as normal. Tomorrow, we have the ability to fact check for ourselves, I urge you to do so. Not every person you view as 'liberal' is wrong, likewise not everyone I view as a 'conservative' is wrong. You need to understand the difference between what you're being fed and what is actually true. Politics aside, because fuck em all, they're all in it for themselves and their next term. Not worth a second of my time. Look at it objectively, what's best for YOU, what do the politicians you support vote on, what do they pass, sponsor, agree to?

Elton Gallegly has been my districts rep for years, and fuck that stupid idiot, he's a goddamn retard, but somehow, experience in the house pretty much guarantees you the seat. Incumbents hold so much power compared to new candidates, not only because of their enormous inflated personal fortunes, but because the average American voter is, as mentioned before, F U C K I N G R E T A R D E D ! They vote on ideology, that's why you won't see an atheist president during my lifetime. Policy doesn't matter, ideology does. Dude believes in Jebus, ELECTED! Dude even believes in Joseph Smith, possibly elected! No God? GOOD FUCKIN LUCK!

Our nation is filled with idiots. Every time I come back to that, it just depresses me more because I would expect so much more from us, especially after having so much history to base the current situation on, and having the internet to fucking look it up yourself! Nobody does though, nobody bothers. Most of us 30+ just believe what we're told, it's easier. Researching shit is too difficult, even though it's just a button away... And that's why I welcome the meteor that destroys the human species. We're not good enough to survive. Our species deserves to be exterminated. Hitler had the right idea except he stopped at the Jews. If it was me, you wouldn't be reading this right now...
 

Dr Kynes

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someones butt hurt . . go get victimized . .seems to be your things . . fear
distrust is not fear.

hate is not fear

despising a thing is not fear.

thinking something is gross is not fear.

you liberals got fear on your minds all the time.

i dont like huitlecoche, does this mean i FEAR it?
i have never had good eel. ever. i guess i FEAR it.
i dont let rats live in my attic. FEAR
i dont like dogs. FEAR (actually i love dogs, but im allergic, my allergies are simply hiding my FEAR!)
i dont walk behind strange mares. FEAR! ok actually that one is fear. i been kicked a couple times. i lernt my lesson.
i ate bad prosciutto once and didnt shit for a week. FEAR
i dont believe a word that comes out of barrry seotoro's mouth. FEAR!
i never vote for feinstein or boxer. FEAR!!
i sat on some gum the other day. FEAR!
 

Samwell Seed Well

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you are constantly fearful of others, distrust, you dispise others, hate, and you are not responsible for how you feel


.. . . ok, what exactly am i afraid of . . . . is it random and vague . . . . . .

are you in risk management . . .? if you dont mind me asking
 

Dr Kynes

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QFT. Excellent post SSW + rep.

On par with exactly what I'm thinking. Keynes, you seem to be harboring an enormous sense of resentment towards what you view as 'left wing' or 'liberal' because of past experiences. And much like today's Republican party, what 'liberal' or 'left wing' doesn't mean today what it did when you were in school. I feel like anything with the slightest inclination towards left wing politics or liberal thinking automatically gets a "FUCK THAT SHIT" attitude from you, which is a huge mistake on your part. As I've said before, nobody is 100% liberal or conservative and that's a point our politicians prey on, they expect you to feel the way you do and use that to their advantage. In today's world, it really is you and me vs. them (the politicians). It's not left vs. right, that is nothing but a distraction, divide and conquer. You and me fighting together for real answers and demanding real progress and change is the enemy to American politics. Our politicians know that, they do everything in their power to make sure the left/right issue is at the top of the list. The empower entire news organizations to complete the task. Fox News, MSNBC... you and I can both see the game that's being played. Everything, almost everything is bought, everyone in politics is paid for, corruption is rampant like never before and their voting record proves it. Left, right, no difference at all. The collective goal of American politics is to keep you as scared as possible while keeping you as uninformed as possible. We're at a time right now where that shit still passes as normal. Tomorrow, we have the ability to fact check for ourselves, I urge you to do so. Not every person you view as 'liberal' is wrong, likewise not everyone I view as a 'conservative' is wrong. You need to understand the difference between what you're being fed and what is actually true. Politics aside, because fuck em all, they're all in it for themselves and their next term. Not worth a second of my time. Look at it objectively, what's best for YOU, what do the politicians you support vote on, what do they pass, sponsor, agree to?

Elton Gallegly has been my districts rep for years, and fuck that stupid idiot, he's a goddamn retard, but somehow, experience in the house pretty much guarantees you the seat. Incumbents hold so much power compared to new candidates, not only because of their enormous inflated personal fortunes, but because the average American voter is, as mentioned before, F U C K I N G R E T A R D E D ! They vote on ideology, that's why you won't see an atheist president during my lifetime. Policy doesn't matter, ideology does. Dude believes in Jebus, ELECTED! Dude even believes in Joseph Smith, possibly elected! No God? GOOD FUCKIN LUCK!

Our nation is filled with idiots. Every time I come back to that, it just depresses me more because I would expect so much more from us, especially after having so much history to base the current situation on, and having the internet to fucking look it up yourself! Nobody does though, nobody bothers. Most of us 30+ just believe what we're told, it's easier. Researching shit is too difficult, even though it's just a button away... And that's why I welcome the meteor that destroys the human species. We're not good enough to survive. Our species deserves to be exterminated. Hitler had the right idea except he stopped at the Jews. If it was me, you wouldn't be reading this right now...
ohh i get that, im not 100% anti progressive in fact theres a few areas where im far more liberal than our brahmin in chief (like on weed, or actually supporting a real single payer medical system as long as it actually has a payer, not a debtor), but incumbency is the nightmare that spawns our daytime horrors.

here in cali we got term limits on the state offices, and the lefties keep trying to eliminate it but keep failing. they piss and moan about how "experienced" politicians get thrown out and it takes years in office to learn the job, and other such twadlle. they dont understand that to the rest of us (non-political liberals,and every stripe of conservative, libertarian and even socialists) their braying is simply arguing that the incumbents barelky have time to graft up the joint and begin feathering their nests before they are forced out and a new guy has to start the process of bribes and patronage all over. they dont understand that we (about 80% of california) think this is a GOOD thing. seriously. i got a brother who is a dyed in the wool hardcore leftist, and every few years he tries to convince me that term limits are bad, and he just cant see why nobody understands his brilliant arguments. i tried explainin that the rest of us dont trust his "experienced" politicians with good reason, but he simply doesnt get it. its like the words have no meaning once he realizes you wont sign his petition to end term limits... again. the confusion and frustration on his face is quite hilarious when nobody wants to join him in righting this wrong, and crusading for social change, when term limits only came in like 20 years ago.
 

Dr Kynes

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you are constantly fearful of others, distrust, you dispise others, hate, and you are not responsible for how you feel


.. . . ok, what exactly am i afraid of . . . . is it random and vague . . . . . .

are you in risk management . . .? if you dont mind me asking
i fear no man, but i distrust most of them.

thats just good sense.

people who run around trusting everybody they meet either wind up unhappy, fucked over or on the back of a milk carton. sometimes all three.

[video=youtube;_EBMo8xHGNs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EBMo8xHGNs&amp;feature=related[/video]
 

Canna Sylvan

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i think your foxing me . . . .i said that it is understandable why, never said it was OK . . .

context . . . . . . .want me to go find some trivial fact, taken out of context, about something that has nothing to do with this argument but instead only meant to derail your position or opinion . . .. . .funny how you people try to have conversations but in the end are just looking for your chance to prove someone wrong in some way, which in no way invalidates anyone or MItt romeny would be your choice for president . . .but ok
Don't give me that bullshit. You say people are people in this thread. Liberals like you bitch about Republicans like Romney flip-flopping when it suits their arguement..
many including i can say the same thing and i dont mean that in a snarly way i mean it as you dont know me either. . .

Canna, every person is different as they react to life and how they take in what happens around them, good and bad, you cant expect everyone to be like you or react the way you do, thats just foolish

and i am very sorry that that happened to you, i also was an abused child other kids got spanked i got beat . . . it happens, people do things they regret, my father and i now have a great relationship although slightly distant, and they(they, being theabusers, its a circle of ignorance and hate and anger not a rising tide, it is a cycle of abuse) are also affected by what they are being stimulated from, if you are lookign for understanding as to why, you need to take into account all stimuli that can effect your situation,


and one child getting abused is a lot different then an entire community of children and ex children, being abused by themselves and (not to say any mistreatment within the community or families was justified just saying it happened) )by both the nation,state and citizens of each

to those minorities you have an entire world against you it feels and not jst for 6 years

for life,

cause most dont get out of the ghettos for whatever reason and they see that from early on
So we have individuals and communities. We can rank on a scale suffering an individual feels based on factors at birth? The honkey's suffering pales to what happened to the black man?

You forget what you write because even you know it's bullshit? Where's your kumbaya in that post you preach here?

who care about our differences .
You say that now! Or was it then?
 
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