Iso Extractions by _oakley_
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oakley1984
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yup you got it man, electric griddle, pancake griddle, etc etc... all same type of thing, just an electric hotplate thats not an exposed element
MrTokenPuff
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Do you have to purge the end result? Or does the cooking process allow the ISO to evaporate suffientiently enough for a safe clean smoke? My gf and I are wanting to make some from our trimmings and popcorns but have concerns on inhaling the end product.
Shawns
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I slowly evaporate mine till theres no more bubbles and mine taste fine, I've never purged mine I think thats mainly for BHO to pull the rest of the butane out (i think) lol, I dont know much about BHO but I have tried it and could always taste the butane, the only time i've ever been able to taste the iso is if it wasn't cooked off enough
DrOfWelshMagic
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please let us know when you do, nothing like a visual explanation. have just been put onto this thread regarding questions i HAD about using ISO for making oil, specifically Simpsons oil, if there's a difference, but i pretty much found out all i needed to know by reading through... great effort oakley. repect from Wales UK and thanks cannabineer for the link.. will post pics of my effort one day when i get round to making some....
oakley1984
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just a lil preview of things to come... about 7g? i dunno
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made from leaf only.
Strain; Purple White Lightning
made from leaf only.
Strain; Purple White Lightning
billcollector99
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beautiful. I love the amber color
so, i tried to read all the pages, and then when i realized i was only halfway through at 20 i said fuck it I'm just gonna ask my question. Sorry if this has been posted before. Anyways, I'm interested in this method for making tinctures, so i plan on using everclear instead of ISO. From what I've read, the fact that Everclear is 75 percent alcohol won't make a big deal because your guys's obsession with the 99 percent pure alcohols is due mainly to an interest in getting as pure an oil as possible right? Cause I just want to keep the nasty looking plant material out of my drink. That's what really is drawing me to this method.
Since this is gonna be ingested, I'd like to decarb the weed first. That's not gonna break down the chlorophyll into anything that's gonna be more easily extracted is it?
Also, does this method really maximize yield? I've made tinctures before where the method involved letting the cannabis sit in the alcohol. It was my understanding that it takes time for the cannabinoids to be extracted. Is a quick wash really adequate for grabbing all the cannabinoids?
Thnx for the help and for the guide. This oil looks danky and I can't wait to make some of it when my buddy whose got bulk (that like an ounce for me) comes around.
Since this is gonna be ingested, I'd like to decarb the weed first. That's not gonna break down the chlorophyll into anything that's gonna be more easily extracted is it?
Also, does this method really maximize yield? I've made tinctures before where the method involved letting the cannabis sit in the alcohol. It was my understanding that it takes time for the cannabinoids to be extracted. Is a quick wash really adequate for grabbing all the cannabinoids?
Thnx for the help and for the guide. This oil looks danky and I can't wait to make some of it when my buddy whose got bulk (that like an ounce for me) comes around.
Fadedawg
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The remaining 25% water in 75% Everclear will extract a boat load of water solubles and wash away the water soluble protein binding compounds protecting the chlorophyll from the alcohol.
You will end up with a greeeeen extraction that many find distasteful.
MayI suggest 95.5% 190 proof Everclear and use frozen QWET techniques for extraction, before removing the alcohol and decarboxylating, and then adding back enough alcohol for your desired tincture viscosity?
Decarbing won't break down the chlorophyll, but it will remove the water, so doing a frozen QWET is ineffective and the material is exceedingly dry and brittle, fragmenting with agitation and making fines in the extraction more probable.
It takes an extra step, but if you do a frozen QWETextraction and then remove all the alcohol, it is easy to precisely decarb theoil in a 250F hot oil bath, before adding back in sufficient alcohol or other menstruum to make a tincture.
Decarboxylating plant material is imprecise, because youcan't tell by looking where the process is at, while you can with oil by just watching the CO2 bubbles.
It takes multiple washes to extract all the cannabinoids with alcohol, with refreezing in between extractions. You will also never get all the cannabinoids with alcohol, without also picking up some undesirable constituents.
Soaking for extended periods, may get the last bit of cannabinoids, but it will also extract and concentrate the chlorophyll, as well as plant alkaloids and other water solubles.
Consider three QWET extractions and using glycerin or oil to extract the rest, for oral meds.
berkman858
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Thanks for the info, do you have any links to this QWET extraction process? You have sparked my interest.
hey man thanks for the info, especially that part on the water soluble molecules. I'm glad i didn't try and do the wash yet. I'll look into these processes you speak of.
Fadedawg
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oakley1984
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Time to show off a lil lol 
Purple Grizzley Oil
22g
Approx 3/8ths of an inch thick in the dish.
Even with flash on, Extremely clear!
Purple Grizzley Oil
22g
Approx 3/8ths of an inch thick in the dish.
Even with flash on, Extremely clear!
billcollector99
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I just wanna eat it.. lol
WarMachine
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I signed up just for this thread. Really good guide! I made my first batch with 91% ISO with trim and it came out looking like the BHO I had made with the same strand. I am going to try to use the 99.9%, it's not really ideal just because of cost but I really want to try it. I'll try to take pics and maybe a video of the next batch I make! Thanks again oakley1984 for the guide! Hope you make a video to see you making it first hand! Mine always tend to come out a little yellowish, never really amber like the others. I might have pictures of my old batch somewhere.
WarMachine
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Here are a couple of pictures of some older ISO I had made, these were made NOT using this method.
Here is the only picture I could find that I made using THIS guide (I used 91% ISO, did water baths basically).
Came out really good (as far as dabing and edibles too) the flavor was really good too. Only 1 person said the flavor tastes "weird almost burnt" which really doesn't make sense to me.. I liked it and so did others so I really dont care
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Here is the only picture I could find that I made using THIS guide (I used 91% ISO, did water baths basically).
Came out really good (as far as dabing and edibles too) the flavor was really good too. Only 1 person said the flavor tastes "weird almost burnt" which really doesn't make sense to me.. I liked it and so did others so I really dont care
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WarMachine
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Here is a picture of BHO I had made.
The ISO & BHO were both made using trim. A video fromoakley1984 would still be nice, especially different videos (batch with trim, batch with nugs) just to see the visual difference.
The ISO & BHO were both made using trim. A video fromoakley1984 would still be nice, especially different videos (batch with trim, batch with nugs) just to see the visual difference.