Iso Extractions by _oakley_

WarMachine

Well-Known Member
I personally like using a glow rod to enjoy my concentrates/extracts. Weather it be "dabing" with it or just hovering over the material with it. Lets you appreciate the flavor of your work and also doesn't take to long to heat.
 
I've been saying that to myself ever since I saw someone do a dap, I thought fuck these people are paying hundreds of dollars on these special bongs just to do dabs, all we use to do is grab a couple knives out of the kitchen heat them up on the stove, works great and knives are cheap lol
im sorry but it all depends on the metal youre using. even when you get your super expensive titanium dab essentials nail, you still need to season it to get rid of the lubricant taste used during the machining of the metal, by torching several times and dabbing your own personal oil or some reclaim oil. either way kitchen knives might contain a polish or just be low grade metal in general that can flake off or worse give you an unwanted reaction and land in the hospital. and if you have hundreds of dollars to buy or grow all this material, you surely have 100 to spare on a small bong and 50-100 to spend on a damn good nail! im not trying to offend anyone here, this thread has shown me soooo much and I wanna see how much more oakley can show us. in fact, i hope he can shed some light on this subject of hot knifing and the dangers involved with that vs a seasoned titanium nail. anyone agree? disagree? thanks guys
 

gradice11

New Member
I have scanned all the pages, don't think this was mentioned. Has anyone here who has made the oil that had it tested for its thc and cbd%? I ask because I was going to make the Rick Simpson oil for my stepfather with leukemia. Rick says and he's adamant about the thc levels in the oil need to be at least 90%. I have check everywhere for premade oils but nothing I found was over 80%. I would like to try myself but don't want all my effort to be in vain...
There is also a machine similar to the Thai iso 2, which I've only heard great things about. Its at superflowertower.com. it looks foolproof. Does anyone have experience with this and the quality of oil produced?
Thanks
 

vacpurge

New Member
if you want 90%... do it yourself (no offense) and I mean everything, from spending thousands on a top of the line grow room with top techniques.. invest a few months mastering it. grow the most amazing weed ever... then collect all the trics from that, and make your oil with that if ya want a true 90%

cant rely on other peoples shit... im a firm believer of "if you want something done right, do it yourself"

id imagine its really not too tough, especially if youre allowed to grow legally. 2 crops and a few thousand bucks and you can fill an ice cream bucket with 95% thc oil 8)
 

gradice11

New Member
if you want 90%... do it yourself (no offense) and I mean everything, from spending thousands on a top of the line grow room with top techniques.. invest a few months mastering it. grow the most amazing weed ever... then collect all the trics from that, and make your oil with that if ya want a true 90%

cant rely on other peoples shit... im a firm believer of "if you want something done right, do it yourself"

id imagine its really not too tough, especially if youre allowed to grow legally. 2 crops and a few thousand bucks and you can fill an ice cream bucket with 95% thc oil 8)
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Hes on his deathbed, no time. I do plan on growing in the future. But, me being a rookie, I am looking for the most efficient, easiest way to get that high quality of an extract.... I found a dispensary that has a lab tested Strong Indica Hybrid of 32%THC. That's the highest I've found. For extraction I was going to use something similar to the Thai ISO2 from the 70's, which I heard is an almost foolproof and very effective method. This one is The Super Flower Tower(see pic). It looks identical and is cheaper and readily available. The only thing. I can't find reviews anywhere which makes me wonder...Anyways, the patient it is for has a very low white blood cell count so I do not want to use butane or Namptha. was going to use everclear, but 99%iso might be ok......Any advise here would be helpful. flower.jpg
 

oakley1984

Well-Known Member
if you want 90%... do it yourself (no offense) and I mean everything, from spending thousands on a top of the line grow room with top techniques.. invest a few months mastering it. grow the most amazing weed ever... then collect all the trics from that, and make your oil with that if ya want a true 90%

cant rely on other peoples shit... im a firm believer of "if you want something done right, do it yourself"

id imagine its really not too tough, especially if youre allowed to grow legally. 2 crops and a few thousand bucks and you can fill an ice cream bucket with 95% thc oil 8)
sorry i just have to LOL at one part of this statement

"invest a few months mastering it" thats not even possible, trying to "master" your grow room is a several year endeavor...
 

oakley1984

Well-Known Member
im sorry but it all depends on the metal youre using. even when you get your super expensive titanium dab essentials nail, you still need to season it to get rid of the lubricant taste used during the machining of the metal, by torching several times and dabbing your own personal oil or some reclaim oil. either way kitchen knives might contain a polish or just be low grade metal in general that can flake off or worse give you an unwanted reaction and land in the hospital. and if you have hundreds of dollars to buy or grow all this material, you surely have 100 to spare on a small bong and 50-100 to spend on a damn good nail! im not trying to offend anyone here, this thread has shown me soooo much and I wanna see how much more oakley can show us. in fact, i hope he can shed some light on this subject of hot knifing and the dangers involved with that vs a seasoned titanium nail. anyone agree? disagree? thanks guys
yup, stainless does offgas, so does titanium tho.

dont believe me on the titanium? why you think its white after you torch the fuck out of it! its oxidation!

honestly tho i dont really give a fuck... im willing to bet that pumping your car full of gas exposes you to more dangerous hydrocarbons and gasses than what a piece of stainless or titanium is going to offgas.

so fuck it, use what ever floats your boat.
 

oakley1984

Well-Known Member
I have scanned all the pages, don't think this was mentioned. Has anyone here who has made the oil that had it tested for its thc and cbd%? I ask because I was going to make the Rick Simpson oil for my stepfather with leukemia. Rick says and he's adamant about the thc levels in the oil need to be at least 90%. I have check everywhere for premade oils but nothing I found was over 80%. I would like to try myself but don't want all my effort to be in vain...
There is also a machine similar to the Thai iso 2, which I've only heard great things about. Its at superflowertower.com. it looks foolproof. Does anyone have experience with this and the quality of oil produced?
Thanks
the thaiiso2 is a reflux soxhlet and will make the blackest of the black tars you have ever seen.

you have 3 options;

Make RSO according to directions
Make my oil according to directions
Make BHO shatter via a winterizing with ethanol

also you have the right idea by trying to start with the strongest strain you can find you will have a significantly less amount of work ahead of you and a greater yield to get the quality of product you're looking for
 

GrowBrooklyn

Well-Known Member
Don't any Cali dispensaries have RSO? Given the urgency, why don't you start by buying some RSO and then work on making your own? I doubt RSO will help, but if it does, I'd imagine the sooner you start it the better. Good luck to you and your stepfather.

BTW, if you google for "Rick Simpson Oil forums" you will find a lot of discussion threads where you might get better info.
 

vacpurge

New Member
sorry i just have to LOL at one part of this statement

"invest a few months mastering it" thats not even possible, trying to "master" your grow room is a several year endeavor...
lol you just wait until I am in my own place.

I will spend so much time and money on the ultimate grow room it will be impossible to grow anything less than amazing.

I do agree with you that it takes years to perfect it and learn the tricks.. like anything. experience cant be bought or taught.

but what I am saying is that if I got the best seeds money could buy, 5 1000W lights, the best soil and nutes money can buy. and studied forums all day and night (which im going to) posting pictures and getting advice/tips/walkthroughs or grow room ideas from the best in the world, that I bet I could grow some pretty god damn good weed my 2nd or 3rd crop out. especially if a family members life was on the line and this had a chance of helping. not curing their illnes, but even just helping.. I would dedicate my life to doing it until they were gone.

BUT, if the original poster of the question has access to 32% weed, then theres your answer. but it aint gonna be cheap. as far as the other part... fadedawg might be the guy to talk to if time is of the essence.
 

Fadedawg

Well-Known Member
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Hes on his deathbed, no time. I do plan on growing in the future. But, me being a rookie, I am looking for the most efficient, easiest way to get that high quality of an extract.... I found a dispensary that has a lab tested Strong Indica Hybrid of 32%THC. That's the highest I've found. For extraction I was going to use something similar to the Thai ISO2 from the 70's, which I heard is an almost foolproof and very effective method. This one is The Super Flower Tower(see pic). It looks identical and is cheaper and readily available. The only thing. I can't find reviews anywhere which makes me wonder...Anyways, the patient it is for has a very low white blood cell count so I do not want to use butane or Namptha. was going to use everclear, but 99%iso might be ok......Any advise here would be helpful. flower.jpg
The Thai is a refluxing soxhleting extractor, so with a polar solvent like alcohol, it will also extract and concentrate the chlorophyll. It would have to be used with a non polar solvent like hexane, to produce a pristine oil.

If you are going to use Iso or ethanol, I suggest QWET techniques.
 

oakley1984

Well-Known Member
lol you just wait until I am in my own place.

I will spend so much time and money on the ultimate grow room it will be impossible to grow anything less than amazing.

I do agree with you that it takes years to perfect it and learn the tricks.. like anything. experience cant be bought or taught.

but what I am saying is that if I got the best seeds money could buy, 5 1000W lights, the best soil and nutes money can buy. and studied forums all day and night (which im going to) posting pictures and getting advice/tips/walkthroughs or grow room ideas from the best in the world, that I bet I could grow some pretty god damn good weed my 2nd or 3rd crop out. especially if a family members life was on the line and this had a chance of helping. not curing their illnes, but even just helping.. I would dedicate my life to doing it until they were gone.

BUT, if the original poster of the question has access to 32% weed, then theres your answer. but it aint gonna be cheap. as far as the other part... fadedawg might be the guy to talk to if time is of the essence.
 

Twitch

Well-Known Member
lol you just wait until I am in my own place.

I will spend so much time and money on the ultimate grow room it will be impossible to grow anything less than amazing.

I do agree with you that it takes years to perfect it and learn the tricks.. like anything. experience cant be bought or taught.

but what I am saying is that if I got the best seeds money could buy, 5 1000W lights, the best soil and nutes money can buy. and studied forums all day and night (which im going to) posting pictures and getting advice/tips/walkthroughs or grow room ideas from the best in the world, that I bet I could grow some pretty god damn good weed my 2nd or 3rd crop out.
lol, i have done this
 

710head

New Member
Why do you freeze the iso first, I always do but I take it out of the freezer so its going to get warmer anyway. What's the science behind it?
 

BluJayz

Well-Known Member
Why do you freeze the iso first, I always do but I take it out of the freezer so its going to get warmer anyway. What's the science behind it?
It slows the break down and extraction of chlorophyll. Warm ISO will more actively strip the plant of chlorophyll.

Step 6; Cooking!

Use a pyrex/borosilicate dish.
i like to use a hot plate to heat my iso...

Try not to boil your iso when cooking as this can lead to degradation of your (boiling in itself will not cause damage, but is a clear indication of temperature, Iso will boil around 70-80c the problem is once its starts boiling you are unable to tell if your mixture is getting TOO hot) cannabinoids.

Properly cooked iso based oil, should be gel like... eg when i grab a dab of oil, it will pull a tail, then pull the tail back up under its own viscosity.
What temperature do you suggest begins the degradation of the oil or cannaboids?

When double boiling in h20 the inside pot would not exceed 212F. This is a similar method to decarboxylation of ISO oil, I have favorable results from drying like this. It comes out as you suggested as long as we get all the ISO/Eth out of the oil.
 
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