In America today, who has it worse?

SmokeyDan

SmokeyDan

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I've had a few spirited debates with some on this forum that homosexuals have a bit of relief to the discrimination they face because their sexuality isn't able to be known without their disclosure.

This is true, I do not wish to rehash if it is good or not.

But that has gotten me to thinking. Another group that faces discrimination in this country is atheists.

We have no (to my knowledge) atheists in either branch of the legislature, none on the highest court, and the idea of an atheist being able to be elected president is laughable.

I think many conservative Republicans would sooner vote for Obama than someone who is an atheist, at least Muslims believe in a God, is what they undoubtedly would say.

I'm sure some localities and probably state government's have elected officials who are atheists.

It seems most of you here are atheists, and i put myself there as well.

How come we never talk about that?
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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I would say most people are agnostic and hard core athiest are probably like Homosexuals with less than 1% of the population...
 
SmokeyDan

SmokeyDan

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By hard core atheist I assume you're talking about the ones who go out of their way to act offended when they see a cross someone has erected somewhere?

Yeah there aren't many of them, thank God.

But I think there are quite a few more than one percent who would say they don't believe.

Surely there are members of Congress who are nontheist, but they all have to pretend to be Christians.

I don't think Obama is a christian. He fits the atheist profile perfectly. I don't think he is muslim. But even he has to pretend to be a christian.

Homosexual politicians have advanced much further than atheist ones.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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SmokeyDan said:
By hard core atheist I assume you're talking about the ones who go out of their way to act offended when they see a cross someone has erected somewhere?

Yeah there aren't many of them, thank God.

But I think there are quite a few more than one percent who would say they don't believe.

Surely there are members of Congress who are nontheist, but they all have to pretend to be Christians.

I don't think Obama is a christian. He fits the atheist profile perfectly. I don't think he is muslim. But even he has to pretend to be a christian.

Homosexual politicians have advanced much further than atheist ones.
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If you are an athiest then you dont believe in anything. What is there to attack??

If you dont think there is a god but wonder every once in a while then you are agnostic, not athiest. Another analogy is racists. There are an amazingly small amount of true racists in America. But bigots and predjudice gets all lumped together and if you believe UB there is racism under every rock and around every corner.

For you to be athiest you just have to think. For people to be gay they have to act. For people of race, it is simply the color of their skin. I dont think any of the three can be easily compared to one another.
 
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CC Dobbs

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NLXSK1 said:
I would say most people are agnostic and hard core athiest are probably like Homosexuals with less than 1% of the population...
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An atheist is not hardcore and an agnostic is someone who hasn't thought it through enough. The population of homosexuals in this country is much, much more than "less than 1%"
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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SmokeyDan said:
I've had a few spirited debates with some on this forum that homosexuals have a bit of relief to the discrimination they face because their sexuality isn't able to be known without their disclosure.

This is true, I do not wish to rehash if it is good or not.

But that has gotten me to thinking. Another group that faces discrimination in this country is atheists.

We have no (to my knowledge) atheists in either branch of the legislature, none on the highest court, and the idea of an atheist being able to be elected president is laughable.

I think many conservative Republicans would sooner vote for Obama than someone who is an atheist, at least Muslims believe in a God, is what they undoubtedly would say.

I'm sure some localities and probably state government's have elected officials who are atheists.

It seems most of you here are atheists, and i put myself there as well.

How come we never talk about that?
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shut the fuck up.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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CC Dobbs said:
An atheist is not hardcore and an agnostic is someone who hasn't thought it through enough. The population of homosexuals in this country is much, much more than "less than 1%"
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The number of Americans who self identify as homosexuals is like 1.6% Much less than what is commonly thought.
 
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CC Dobbs

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Red1966 said:
The number of Americans who self identify as homosexuals is like 1.6% Much less than what is commonly thought.
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According to the most resent results from the NHIS study on sexual orientation the percentage of adults in the US who self-identity as other than heterosexual is 6.8. Men are slightly more gay than non-men but we knew that, didn't we?
 
Red1966

Red1966

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CC Dobbs said:
According to the most resent results from the NHIS study on sexual orientation the percentage of adults in the US who self-identity as other than heterosexual is 6.8. Men are slightly more gay than non-men but we knew that, didn't we?
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Other than heterosexual doesn't mean gay. What exactly are "non-men"? Sheep? Goats? Cattle? All of the above?
 
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